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Dustin Cross
03-17-2008, 06:31 PM
Where is all the Nikon SLR footage? I received my Nikon mount from Doug Underdahl on friday, but my Red doesn't get here until later this week. I know people have them, so where is the footage?
Mahalo,
Dusty
REDefine
03-17-2008, 07:38 PM
This is quite surprising. No body is coming forward with Nikon+RED footage. I have been looking for it for couple of weeks. Nobody is talking about it.:shiftyph34r: :unsure: :sad: :umm:
M.Halsell
03-17-2008, 07:38 PM
Don't think the Nikon mounts have shipped yet. Soon. But not yet.
REDefine
03-17-2008, 07:42 PM
If Dusty has got his, there must be others as well who have got them. But no footage yet.:shiftyph34r:
M.Halsell
03-17-2008, 08:06 PM
True. Seems the few that purchased third party Nikon mounts haven't been that generous with sharing or either are too busy. I would suspect the bulk of the Nikon mounts will be purchased thru RED. After which, by shear number of owners, there is bound to be available footage posted.
vincelucero
03-18-2008, 01:08 AM
Hey Dusty, interested in renting your nikon mount? Wanna try it out for some tests. And maybe a job or two. :)
Ed Watkins
03-18-2008, 08:40 AM
I can't post any footage at the moment (internet too slow, and on a MacBook Pro) but I here are some screen grabs of some footage I shot with Doug's Nikon adapter on my RED. Below a Nikon 17-35mm (Toucan), Nikon 80-200mm + Cannon 500D diopter (termites, tree frog) and Nikon 80-200mm (Jungle cat)
http://naturalscinema.com/termites.jpg
http://naturalscinema.com/redeyetreefrog.jpg
http://naturalscinema.com/toucan.jpg
http://naturalscinema.com/marguae.jpg
M.Halsell
03-18-2008, 09:19 AM
Oooomg! Nikons in the House!
Peter Plevritis
03-18-2008, 09:27 AM
Wow. That gives great hope for Nikon lens use.
Those are some of the nicest stills posted that I have seen.
Did you work the color/contrast in Redcine or some other package?
Gabriel Beaudry
03-18-2008, 09:48 AM
Thanks Ed for the the great images. I just got my Nikon Mounts from Doug today, but no Red yet. It should ship soon.
Ed Watkins
03-18-2008, 09:53 AM
Wow. That gives great hope for Nikon lens use.
Those are some of the nicest stills posted that I have seen.
Did you work the color/contrast in Redcine or some other package?
All the footage is 4k 16:9. No proper color correction, ASA 320.
Just a simple 'S' curve applied and raised the saturation in REDCINE.
Images are quite clean, but there is some noise in all the blacks, which is a shame, not horrible, but reminiscent of film.
Mark Thorpe
03-18-2008, 10:07 AM
Ed,
Happy to see some Nature shooting going on. Where did you shoot this? Looks like Belize??
Good stuff.
Mark.
Ed Watkins
03-18-2008, 10:11 AM
Panama, and with that said I've got to go find a decent leaf cutter ant colony to film.
Laters,
Ed
Mark Thorpe
03-18-2008, 11:36 AM
Great stuff Ed, keep up the good work. Will be posting big fishies asap.
Cheers,
Mark.
Brian Kaz
03-18-2008, 12:26 PM
How are you guys getting Doug's mount? I've received no payment options when e-mailing him.
Man, 2 whole days I've been staring at a bad ass looking paperweight. I'm starting to get nauseous...
richard peterson
03-18-2008, 12:32 PM
Awesome !!!, Please post 4k stills.
Q: whats the difference between Doug's mount and Red's Nikon mount.
My Red is ready to go but I'm waiting until a nikon mount is available
Dustin Cross
03-18-2008, 12:46 PM
Kaz - Doug sent me an e-mail telling me to send payment via PayPal and then he sent a Nikon mount. It is a simple little plate with a Nikon mount screwed to it. Looks like it will work great. Now I just need my camera to arrive.
Q: whats the difference between Doug's mount and Red's Nikon mount.
The main difference is Doug's Nikon mount is shipping. No one knows what cool stuff Red is doing with their mount.
Now show me the footage!!!!!
Mahalo,
Dusty
Ed Watkins
03-18-2008, 03:28 PM
Awesome !!!, Please post 4k stills.
Q: whats the difference between Doug's mount and Red's Nikon mount.
My Red is ready to go but I'm waiting until a nikon mount is available
I'm guessing not a lot. Doug's mount is a very simple elegant solution. Buy Doug's rather than wait around.
b.t.w thanks for all the comments on the stills guys!
Petr Dvorak
03-18-2008, 06:21 PM
Wow, I lovet it, keep posting plz
Fantastic shots, Ed! Don't want to be too anal but the cat isn't a Jungle Cat (which is an Asian species), I think it is an Ocelot or Margay.
Ed Watkins
03-19-2008, 03:51 PM
Fantastic shots, Ed! Don't want to be too anal but the cat isn't a Jungle Cat (which is an Asian species), I think it is an Ocelot or Margay.
Oooh.. picky :innocent:
You're correct it is a Margay, but the locals call it a Jungle cat. Either way it's a beautiful animal.
Harmonica
03-19-2008, 04:36 PM
Those are absolutely beautiful, Ed. Thanks for sharing!
I was originally planning to go with Nikon, but then switched to Canon because of the Birger. Even so, your frame grabs have given me great hopes for my new Canon glass!
Douglas Underdahl
03-21-2008, 03:59 PM
Ed - just gorgeous!
wshultz
03-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Okay, these aren't as exotic, but here's a couple grabs from a helicopter test we did yesterday. We shot using a Nikon 28-70 at between 28 and 35, ASA 320, shutter speed 400, aperture at F8.
Michael Schrengohst
03-21-2008, 06:32 PM
I really wish you wouldn't post pics of my house on-line!!
Just kidding...I wish....
I have the 28-70 and those grabs look very good.
Rudi Herbert
03-22-2008, 06:23 AM
The shots look gorgeous, and ratify my desire to give the Nikons a serious try. However, I noticed the shots look a bit soft? I hate super sharp images and think that the "sharp softness" exhibited by many older lenses and these shots by Ed look very filmic, but since I also own all those Nikon lenses, I know them to look noticeably sharper on my Nikon cameras. Maybe we need to add a bit of sharpening when using these lenses, or is there a slight back focus problem with the mount? Doug, any thoughts?
Steven-Marc C.
03-22-2008, 06:46 AM
Doesn't seem to be a backfocus issue, at least on the closeups, since you can identify OOF zones both in front and back of that which is meant to be in focus.
It might come from the downrezzing. You always need to add a bit of sharpening when you downrez an image in order to retain sharpness comparable to that of the original full size image.
Were these shot in 4K? Would it be possible to see some tiffs?
Elizabeth Lowrey
03-22-2008, 08:22 AM
The shots look gorgeous, and ratify my desire to give the Nikons a serious try. However, I noticed the shots look a bit soft? I hate super sharp images and think that the "sharp softness" exhibited by many older lenses and these shots by Ed look very filmic, but since I also own all those Nikon lenses, I know them to look noticeably sharper on my Nikon cameras. Maybe we need to add a bit of sharpening when using these lenses, or is there a slight back focus problem with the mount? Doug, any thoughts?
The softness struck me as well, also based on the stills Stephen Pruitt pulled from his use of Doug's Nikon mount in this thread (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10457&page=4). The color and contrast is beautiful, but it does seem soft to me.
Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock
03-22-2008, 09:26 AM
Okay, these aren't as exotic, but here's a couple grabs from a helicopter test we did yesterday. We shot using a Nikon 28-70 at between 28 and 35, ASA 320, shutter speed 400, aperture at F8.
You shot those handheld, didnīt you? No mount? Did you try some shots with >35? Any skew problems? Were they usable, or "1 out of 20" usable?
Thank you for the footage and all the best,
Jochen
Rudi Herbert
03-22-2008, 11:21 AM
The softness struck me as well, also based on the stills Stephen Pruitt pulled from his use of Doug's Nikon mount in this thread (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10457&page=4). The color and contrast is beautiful, but it does seem soft to me.
You're right, there's the same exact type of softness on those grabs as in the ones we're discussing. Very nice, warm and pleasing color rendition and contrast, far nicer to me that anything accomplished by any Zeiss lens, but the sharpness is lacking. What gives?
wshultz
03-22-2008, 12:19 PM
You shot those handheld, didnīt you? No mount? Did you try some shots with >35? Any skew problems? Were they usable, or "1 out of 20" usable?
Thank you for the footage and all the best,
Jochen
Yes, handheld it was. Skew is definitely a problem with sudden buffeting and camera jerks. Shots where we were able to hold relatively stable for 15 or 20 seconds at a time were very useable though. It's those wild swings that look goofy when stabilized. Here's a couple small stabilized clips. I didn't crop the second so you can see what kind of movement was happening. No skew problems at that level of movement.
http://www.rvimedia.com/video/RickJacksonHouse.mov
http://www.rvimedia.com/video/Retirement_small.mov
Koa M. Stone
03-22-2008, 12:26 PM
Wow, that second shot definitely looks like a miniature :tongue: Looks amazing. Good stuff.
jbeale
03-22-2008, 12:29 PM
Looking around the white whiskers on the Margay / Jungle Cat, it looks a little like a diffusion filter.
Ed Watkins
03-22-2008, 09:35 PM
Looking around the white whiskers on the Margay / Jungle Cat, it looks a little like a diffusion filter.
No diffusion filter, but having looked at the file again you are right, the focus is a little off.
One of four possible answers to that:
1) I missed focus (low light, wide open, working solo on a short time span and tiny depth of field).
2) There is some water vapour in the camera/lens (humidity is 75-90% here) acting to diffuse the light.
3) The back focus may have slipped from all the carrying around of the camera. Or I installed Doug's mount wrong (I switched it from my other RED camera before I left).
4) The screenshot was taken at 1/4 rez from REDCINE (using the mac screen capture tool because QT 7.4.1 seems to have broken the snapshot export)
Sorry I can't be more help, I'll try and post some larger images when I get back to the USA.