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CVB
03-21-2008, 11:47 PM
The web store is up and running. We are taking orders on Inclino, Impero, and Origo for shipment in May. We will be shipping Mirus in June for new pre-orders.
Heres a link to the store (http://www.viewfactor.net/khxc/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=display&ref=splash)

Andrew Benz
03-21-2008, 11:49 PM
Congratulations Curt and the Brothers von Badinski!!!

CVB
03-22-2008, 12:08 AM
Thanks Andrew :) We're excited to finally get this stuff off the ground.

Michael Dorn
03-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Finally. Very keen to place my orders.

Good job.

Cheers
Michael

MikeHedge
03-22-2008, 12:10 AM
feel free to use any photos from the RED LA day... great screencaps. can't wait!!!! Curt you are genius!

CVB
03-22-2008, 12:15 AM
Thanks Mike, I really like the shot of origo in my hand.. kinda puts it in perspective how small it is. BTW... John did the whole website and store... I can't take any credit there.

Tony Lorentzen
03-22-2008, 07:37 AM
You better put that store on a load-balanced system, 'cause it's going to be busy. Good work guys! Looking forward to spend some money :-)

Steve Sherrick
03-22-2008, 07:48 AM
How soon will you able to deliver product Curt?

CVB
03-22-2008, 08:55 AM
Origo, Impero, and Inclinos will be shipping in Mid-May. Mirus units will begin shipping to our first 25 reservation holders first in May then we'll start in on the new reservations that we get when the store goes live.

Corrado Silveri
03-22-2008, 10:53 AM
Nice to see your stuff finally available...
My credit card is ready too!
All the best from Italy.

Stacey Spears
03-22-2008, 11:43 AM
The store is on-line now, I just ordered my Inclino and Impero.

Yean Loon
03-22-2008, 11:52 AM
...got a url?? i don't see any online store on their website..

Matthew Rogers
03-22-2008, 11:53 AM
I thought the orders were just going to take a deposit, but it looks like you have to pay for the full price now:(

Matthew

CVB
03-22-2008, 12:22 PM
...got a url?? i don't see any online store on their website..Heres a link to the store (http://www.viewfactor.net/khxc/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=display&ref=splash)


I thought the orders were just going to take a deposit, but it looks like you have to pay for the full price now:(

Matthew Matthew, I know we were originally going to take pre-orders for $450 but we were looking into the amount of work that it would take to go back and manually charge each customer for the remainder and it was looking to be a huge time sink. Hopefully it won't detract too many people. All told the cost of an Impero (now wireless) and an Inclino with cables comes out to less than the cost of a bartech.

Matthew Rogers
03-22-2008, 12:36 PM
Matthew, I know we were originally going to take pre-orders for $450 but we were looking into the amount of work that it would take to go back and manually charge each customer for the remainder and it was looking to be a huge time sink. Hopefully it won't detract too many people. All told the cost of an Impero (now wireless) and an Inclino with cables comes out to less than the cost of a bartech.

That's okay. I guess I am just going to be further back in line until my business line of credit comes through and I can make a little more room on my credit card.

I'm really looking forward to the Impero and Inclino, and I believe my clients are going to love having wireless FF on a manual FF price!

Matthew

Greg M
03-22-2008, 01:00 PM
cant process order, keep getting:

Unfortunately, we are unable to accept your transaction. There may be a problem with the payment information you entered, or our online processor may be experiencing technical difficulties at the present time. You can attempt to process your order again, or contact us to discuss other payment options.

John Allardice
03-22-2008, 01:02 PM
cant process order, keep getting:

Unfortunately, we are unable to accept your transaction. There may be a problem with the payment information you entered, or our online processor may be experiencing technical difficulties at the present time. You can attempt to process your order again, or contact us to discuss other payment options.


Ditto

chuck colburn
03-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Nice work Curt. Very sexy design on the motor unit. How are the different gears attached?

One other question. How do you lock the arm down? Do you have to release all those screws to adjust the angle and then retighten them?

Yean Loon
03-22-2008, 01:05 PM
same here...

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 01:08 PM
I noticed that there is no longer an Impero Micro... The wired only one that was cheap.

Has this idea been binned? I was going to go for that and 1 Inclino... while I wait for the Pro...

So it's standard and pro only then?

CVB
03-22-2008, 01:14 PM
Hey guys... working out the issues right now.

Mytktyl.... yes, we put the wireless version up front. We may revisit the low cost micro at some point but we wanted to concentrate our efforts on the wireless to address the massive demand that we've seen via email requests.

HD Hildebrand
03-22-2008, 01:19 PM
Ditto

Ditto on the ditto

Cüneyt Kaya
03-22-2008, 01:21 PM
Hey guys... working out the issues right now.

Mytktyl.... yes, we put the wireless version up front. We may revisit the low cost micro at some point but we wanted to concentrate our efforts on the wireless to address the massive demand that we've seen via email requests.

can we pay via wire tranfer?
and how about a payment...
1.deposit or
2.everything right now or
3.pay shortly before delivery and get a res. No?

HD Hildebrand
03-22-2008, 01:21 PM
Thoughts on using the Inclino on Nikon glass? Where and what kind of gears do you suggest?

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the clarification Curt.

So I'll probably get a basic and one motor for now and see what else you gentlemen have in store for us down the track.

RivaiC
03-22-2008, 01:25 PM
hi Curt

Matte box news ? Leave the excitement for NAB ? Please hint something

Joel Kaye
03-22-2008, 01:40 PM
Guys - use your MasterCard right now if you've got one. It's denying VISA's. My order is before yours. heh.

Adrian T.
03-22-2008, 01:50 PM
There seem to be some typos in your "Terms of Use":


3d. Deposit payments in the amount of ,500.00 USD or greater will only be accepted via wire transfer or cash equivalent (such as money order, cashier’s check, or personal check drawn from a United States bank).
3e. Balance Payments – Buyer must pay the full remaining balance of the invoice before order will be processed for shipment. Balance payments in the amount of ,500.00 USD or greater will only be accepted via wire transfer or cash equivalent (such as money order, cashier’s check, or personal check drawn from a United States bank). Balance payments in the amount of ,499.99 USD or less may be remitted via credit card payments, wire transfer or cash equivalent as outlined above.

I'm pretty sure you allow credit card payments for more than USD 500? :wink:

CVB
03-22-2008, 02:01 PM
There seem to be some typos in your "Terms of Use":



I'm pretty sure you allow credit card payments for more than USD 500? :wink:
Yeah, we can take payments up to $7500 I believe... I'll make sure we correct the terms. Thanks for the heads up.

UPDATE: The php script that runs the terms of use page was messing up the dollar value. Its fixed now.

Tim Bradley
03-22-2008, 02:07 PM
My Amex and Visa both won't process order. Please help !!

Tony Lorentzen
03-22-2008, 02:11 PM
Amex not working here too... please take our money, Curt! :D

CVB
03-22-2008, 02:15 PM
My Amex and Visa both won't process order. Please help !!


Amex not working here too... please take our money, Curt! :D

Hey folks, we are working like crazy talking to the credit card gateway to find out why things aren't going through... hold off for a bit until we get this sorted out. Shouldn't be more than an hour to get it squared away.

Ivan G
03-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Curt, I went ahead and ordered the Impero and Inclino and wanted to know if it's ok if I order the cables before they ship? Or should I do that now?

BTW My discover card worked :)

Shawn Nelson
03-22-2008, 02:34 PM
Holy shit!! Curt, am I reading this correctly? $900 motor+$89cable+$775 = $1764 for a complete wireless FF solution?? Then only $1800 more for ff+iris+zoom? Wow!!!!

You're the first 3rd party vendor I've seen that's actually following the Red pricing revolution too :-)

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 02:55 PM
Shawn,
When you get the 2nd and 3rd motors, you'll need the pro controller too...

But having said that. Yeah I agree. When I watched the C-Motion presentation at IBC2007 I fell for the idea of wireless FF... I love that we can get a Redolution kit!!!

I hope that the VBs come up with their own cinetape device that works with the remote FF and will give us depth of field and such on the screen, like the C-Motion... that is a super cool spec.

Joel Kaye
03-22-2008, 03:15 PM
Shawn,
When you get the 2nd and 3rd motors, you'll need the pro controller too...


The Impero will switch between Iris, Zoom and FF. So you can do it with just the impero. You just won't be able to control more than one at a time - unless I'm misunderstanding something.

CVB
03-22-2008, 03:17 PM
Ok, so we contacted our credit card gateway provider and it looks like their servers were down at the exact time we turned on our store.... lucky us. It seems like the store is working better now... If you did not get a confirmation from the store then go ahead and try to place the order again. Let me know if anyone has any problems.

Tony Lorentzen
03-22-2008, 03:21 PM
Worked! Waiting anxiously :-)

Cüneyt Kaya
03-22-2008, 03:21 PM
Holy shit!! Curt, am I reading this correctly? $900 motor+$89cable+$775 = $1764 for a complete wireless FF solution?? Then only $1800 more for ff+iris+zoom? Wow!!!!

You're the first 3rd party vendor I've seen that's actually following the Red pricing revolution too :-)


the first is this imperio and inclino what is the second for ff+iris +zoom
can you break it down for me

Joel Kaye
03-22-2008, 03:23 PM
the first is this imperio and inclino what is the second for ff+iris +zoom
can you break it down for me

He's probably adding 2 more $900 motors. Add another cable or 2 and call it $2k more.

Koa M. Stone
03-22-2008, 03:44 PM
payment not working still... :angry2: let me know...

Thanks!

John Chater
03-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Hi Curt

Can you adjust Focus, Iris and Zoom simultaneously or is it one at a time?

Thanks
John

CVB
03-22-2008, 04:13 PM
Curt, I went ahead and ordered the Impero and Inclino and wanted to know if it's ok if I order the cables before they ship? Or should I do that now? BTW My discover card worked :) You can order it now or just wait. We will have an option to buy the cables separately.


Holy shit!! Curt, am I reading this correctly? $900 motor+$89cable+$775 = $1764 for a complete wireless FF solution?? Then only $1800 more for ff+iris+zoom? Wow!!!! You're the first 3rd party vendor I've seen that's actually following the Red pricing revolution too :-) Thanks Shawn, we try our best to price things as if we were buying them ourselves.


Shawn,
When you get the 2nd and 3rd motors, you'll need the pro controller too...

But having said that. Yeah I agree. When I watched the C-Motion presentation at IBC2007 I fell for the idea of wireless FF... I love that we can get a Redolution kit!!!

I hope that the VBs come up with their own cinetape device that works with the remote FF and will give us depth of field and such on the screen, like the C-Motion... that is a super cool spec. We have a concept, just need the time to finish them... heres a link to the renders (http://viewfactor.net/forum/index.php?topic=12.0)


The Impero will switch between Iris, Zoom and FF. So you can do it with just the impero. You just won't be able to control more than one at a time - unless I'm misunderstanding something. Thats correct, Impero can control zoom, focus and iris but it does so with one knob. The idea behind it is that its mainly to pull focus but you can jump over to zoom or iris to do quick adjustments then go back to focus. You can also run two imperos and link them to the same receiver... that way you can run iris or zoom on one and focus on another. Its really flexible.


payment not working still... :angry2: let me know... Our card processing gateway has been sporadic all morning. Their servers went down then they said it was fixed, now its hit and miss but it seems to be doing better. Try not to run your card through the store within ten minutes of a failed attempt or the card gateway will lock you out.... its really stupid but apparently they put that in place to prevent duplicate orders. Bare with us on this stuff, we are really busting ass trying to get all the issues squared away as soon as possible. If you didn't receive a confirmation that your order has been placed then go ahead and try again tomorrow (hopefully our gateway will be more reliable at that time) We will send out emails to any orders that didn't process correctly. One other think to check out is that it may be a good idea to call your credit card company/bank and verify is there is any limit on your card or at least let them know that you are going to be placing a large transaction.

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 05:01 PM
Ooh... I'm excited about the addition (down the track) of a rangefinder sort of tool that attaches to the receiver.

The reason I'm most interested in this, and why I think it's such a great addition to the Impero/Inclino setup... is that Red has opened up the market of very high quality image acquisition to some of us indy producers whose dreams are wilder than their abilities...in some areas... in my case... I know all manner of talented people here in the UK who can do almost everything... except I just don't know any experienced 1st ACs who can do a great focus pull with tight DOF without taking 35 takes to do it...

So adding a tool that will allow the impero to display visually what the depth of field currently is, and whether or not the object in the rangefinder's line is in focus... that would allow the focus puller to confidently track an object as it and/or the camera moves all over the place... providing the rangefinder stays looking at the object that you want in focus...

But don't let me derail the thread with this stuff... I'm sure there'll be more on this in the future...after NAB, and after Mirus, Impero, and Inclino start shipping.

Dan Blanchett
03-22-2008, 05:40 PM
Curt, it was cool seeing you again at the LA Users Group meet up. I just ordered the origo and look forward to using it with my actioncam! (which is arriving next week).

Hopefully your wireless FF won't be too far off... (edit: actually, just noticed that the wireless is also shipping in May, I thougt it was only the wired. Cool!!)


See you at NAB.
Dan

KETCH ROSSi
03-22-2008, 05:50 PM
Now thats some sexy gear, especially the head, wow, is the head Mitchell base? Any way look forward to see it in person, NAB or I'll visit you at your shop.

Ciao

Andrew Benz
03-22-2008, 05:56 PM
Hi Ketch, the Mirus is Mitchell based.

KETCH ROSSi
03-22-2008, 06:01 PM
Thanks Andrew, that piece of gear is a piece of art, very curious to understand the full functionality, then I can decide if drop the Oconnor 2060 for one of this, and I also have my eye on a ARRIHEAD, so I wryly look forward to get to see the Mirus, thanks again Andrew for the heads up.


Ciao

Andrew Benz
03-22-2008, 07:03 PM
Hey Ketch anytime my friend, I am always happy to be of assistance. I greatly appreciate your posts on canon glass, THAT was extremely helpful to me... so Thank You.

Ketch, I agree, the Mirus is a piece of art and a match made in heaven for the Red (and) or a nice DSLR. I feel quite fortunate to get #24, I cannot wait to get it and learn it. The Mirus will certainly be an education for me. It also feels good to support the Brothers von Badinski and get amazing gear at great prices. How easy is that? :)

Too bad I cannot make it for NAB, I could have gone for some of that shrimp in white wine sauce... :)

KETCH ROSSi
03-22-2008, 07:08 PM
Thanks Andrew, I'm glad you enjoy the Canon posts s well.

I believe that this year thanks to RED, we will see tone of third party companies develop all kinds of related toys, good for us good for them.

Nab is for sure to ring loud bells this year, I was hoping to see you there as well, will meet again, some place else, Ill post a photo of the shrimps for you:)

Ciao

CVB
03-22-2008, 07:14 PM
Now thats some sexy gear, especially the head, wow, is the head Mitchell base? Any way look forward to see it in person, NAB or I'll visit you at your shop.

Ciao Andrew is right, its a Mitchel base. Here is a brief history of the Mirus design, its come a long way....

KETCH ROSSi
03-22-2008, 07:21 PM
Thanks for the pics, I wryly dig it a lot, I also see that you will be at NAB, so I'll get to see it first hand?

From the world of photography to that of cinematography there sure is a world of differences, and I believe to be especially so when comes to the heads both the fluid ones and the geared ones, so again looking forward to see the Mirus in person.

Sorry Andrew, I promise to take the snap shot before everyone digs in.:)

Ciao

Andrew Benz
03-22-2008, 07:22 PM
Andrew is right, its a Mitchel base. Here is a brief history of the Mirus design, its come a long way....

Curt, the Mirus progression is awesome, I had no idea about the earlier models... so the NAB 2008 model will be even more enticing while delivering a lower price? This is great. I have a lot of questions, but I will wait.:wink:

"Ill post a photo of the shrimps for you "

The story of my life... but I will take it! :)

CVB
03-22-2008, 07:23 PM
Yes, were going to have several Inclinos, a couple imperos, and 2 mirus units up and running at the show.... we got a great demo this year, if you can make it this year its definitely going to be worth the trip. Sorry you can't make it Andrew... at least you'll get your Mirus before everyone else :)

C.H.Haskell
03-22-2008, 07:41 PM
Great job Curt, look forward to meeting and getting hands on at NAB! Any chance I can pick some hardware up at NAB?

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 07:43 PM
See y'all there. Like I said... got that jar of pennies with CVB written in marker on masking tape on the lid. :)

Andrew Benz
03-22-2008, 07:44 PM
Yes, were going to have several Inclinos, a couple imperos, and 2 mirus units up and running at the show.... we got a great demo this year, if you can make it this year its definitely going to be worth the trip. Sorry you can't make it Andrew... at least you'll get your Mirus before everyone else :)

Hell yes Curt and that is priceless. There is a method to my thrifty madness!! The great news is that Red, ET and VFS is at the finishing line in just a few short weeks.

I will be flying out to meet you and your brothers when things slowdown a little for you guys... I have been leaving you alone until after the crush but I am dying to do a mini doc (dibs... :) ) on you guys, your company/your unique approach to craft/creativity (for a very cool ongoing project that depends on YOUR TOOLS) and some other cool things I know you will really dig.

Your ingenious products were always a big part of my plans for #557, thank you for making it happen. There was a small period where I thought it was not going to happen, but that is not the case now.

CVB
03-22-2008, 07:59 PM
Hell yes Curt and that is priceless. There is a method to my thrifty madness!! The great news is that Red, ET and VFS is at the finishing line in just a few short weeks.

I will be flying out to meet you and your brothers when things slowdown a little for you guys... I have been leaving you alone until after the crush but I am dying to do a mini doc (dibs... :) ) on you guys, your company/your unique approach to craft/creativity (for a very cool ongoing project that depends on YOUR TOOLS) and some other cool things I know you will really dig.

Your ingenious products were always a big part of my plans for #557, thank you for making it happen. There was a small period where I thought it was not going to happen, but that is not the case now.Thanks Andrew... Its nice to have loyal customers even though we havn't shipped anything. We are burning the candle at both ends to get everything out. Ok, I'm going to have to sign off from reduser.... gotta get some work done :)

BTW.... NAB doesn't let us sell stuff at the show for walk away purchases but we'll have a computer setup to take orders for delivery in May. Oh, and We don't take pennies unless they are in rolls.

Evin Grant
03-22-2008, 08:06 PM
OK this is way cool!
Curt, does the Imperio standard come with the Imerio Reciever?
Or is this an add on? I don't see it in the store just in the configurations PDF.
I'm very excited to have an affordable wireless focus solution.

CVB
03-22-2008, 08:39 PM
Evin, The Impero standard comes with the receiver unit. Now if we can just get this damned store squared away then we'll be on track....

Ivan G
03-22-2008, 08:47 PM
When is the pro transmitter going to be released and is it going to debut at NAB? Price?

Brent J. Craig
03-22-2008, 08:54 PM
CVB, sounds like you might want to shop around for another credit card gateway. We use Internetsecure. They are bulletproof security-wise and have had 100% uptime in the 9 years we have been with them.

For people having problems - online credit card processors weed out fraudulent orders mostly by matching the address you enter to the one on file with your credit card company. To ensure success, you should copy your address letter-for-letter from your credit card bill. If there are two spaces between your city and your zipcode, make sure there are two spaces when you fill in the form. Match all capitalization and punctuation. Try to place the order from the same city your credit card bill is sent to. Find out from your credit card company which phone number they have on file for you, and make sure that is what you enter on the form. The fraudsters have made it difficult for us honest people. Good luck.

Koa M. Stone
03-22-2008, 09:00 PM
Hey CVB,

worked :w00t: discover did it for me. Thanks, looking forward to it!

CVB
03-22-2008, 09:02 PM
When is the pro transmitter going to be released and is it going to debut at NAB? Price? The Pro will be two to three months out. The Pro is a massive undertaking compared to the standard so we are going to need some time to work on it.


CVB, sounds like you might want to shop around for another credit card gateway. We use Internetsecure. They are bulletproof security-wise and have had 100% uptime in the 9 years we have been with them.

For people having problems - online credit card processors weed out fraudulent orders mostly by matching the address you enter to the one on file with your credit card company. To ensure success, you should copy your address letter-for-letter from your credit card bill. If there are two spaces between your city and your zipcode, make sure there are two spaces when you fill in the form. Match all capitalization and punctuation. Try to place the order from the same city your credit card bill is sent to. Find out from your credit card company which phone number they have on file for you, and make sure that is what you enter on the form. The fraudsters have made it difficult for us honest people. Good luck. Thanks for the recommendation. We tested our system with several personal credit cards and it worked fine... most of the orders were low dollar values (<$500). We are trying to determine if the problem is on our side (server load, web store application etc) or on the gateway side. We see all the transactions on our store but our credit card gateway isn't picking them up... its just going to take a bit of time to see where the problem resides.


Hey CVB,

worked :w00t: discover did it for me. Thanks, looking forward to it! Great news.. your one of the lucky ones that got thru :)

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 09:10 PM
BTW.... NAB doesn't let us sell stuff at the show for walk away purchases but we'll have a computer setup to take orders for delivery in May. Oh, and We don't take pennies unless they are in rolls.

:)
Hehe. I'll keep my figurative speech to my films.

CVB
03-22-2008, 09:13 PM
That was my feeble attempt at sarcasm. ;)

John V
03-22-2008, 09:31 PM
Sorry for the issues with payments. I have contacted the company and hosting service to up the connections. You guys just put the server on its knees;) We will have American Express early next week depending on how quickly I can get it setup. Don't get discouraged...keep trying...overload.

Michael Stanmore
03-22-2008, 10:18 PM
That was my feeble attempt at sarcasm. ;)

and that was my feeble attempt at getting it... :blush:

Yean Loon
03-23-2008, 01:25 AM
do we need to get bus cables for both inclino and impero..or will one suffice??

CVB
03-23-2008, 03:16 AM
do we need to get bus cables for both inclino and impero..or will one suffice??Depends on your setup and if you want to run Impero powered or off battery. Here is an example of some configurations (http://viewfactorstudios.com/prod_diagram.PDF), have a look at it and let me know if you still have questions.

laguun
03-23-2008, 12:00 PM
Depends on your setup and if you want to run Impero powered or off battery. Here is an example of some configurations (http://viewfactorstudios.com/prod_diagram.PDF), have a look at it and let me know if you still have questions.

Excellent products, excellent price, excellent customer-relations. Thats a real cool start. Hats of to Viewfactor.

We might be interested in several FF - one question:
Instead of waiting for the PRO, would it be possible to to use 3 Imperos? Or will the wireless frequencies overlay?

CVB
03-23-2008, 12:46 PM
Excellent products, excellent price, excellent customer-relations. Thats a real cool start. Hats of to Viewfactor.

We might be interested in several FF - one question:
Instead of waiting for the PRO, would it be possible to to use 3 Imperos? Or will the wireless frequencies overlay? The Impero Standard uses a mesh network so you can map multiple units to the same receiver. So yes, you can use three units at the same time to control zoom, focus and iris separately. The data is all encrypted and its spread spectrum so even if you operate dozens of units you should never have noise or interference problems.

Heres a quick run down on how addressing works. Basically you will plug all three motors together and into the receiver unit. Then plug in the power cable... You will then turn on the Impero and map it to the receiver using a simple paring button. Once you're associated to the receiver you will have to map the zoom, focus, and iris buttons to their respective motors. You hit the address button on the impero receiver and one of the motors will start flashing an led... you would then press the zoom,focus or iris button on the impero depending on what function that blinking motor is supposed to perform. After that, the next motor in the chain will blink and you do the same thing.... until you have all three motors assigned. Now you can start doing your job of pulling focus/zoom/iris.

laguun
03-23-2008, 01:36 PM
The Impero Standard uses a mesh network so you can map multiple units to the same receiver. So yes, you can use three units at the same time to control zoom, focus and iris separately. The data is all encrypted and its spread spectrum so even if you operate dozens of units you should never have noise or interference problems.

Heres a quick run down on how addressing works. Basically you will plug all three motors together and into the receiver unit. Then plug in the power cable... You will then turn on the Impero and map it to the receiver using a simple paring button. Once you're associated to the receiver you will have to map the zoom, focus, and iris buttons to their respective motors. You hit the address button on the impero receiver and one of the motors will start flashing an led... you would then press the zoom,focus or iris button on the impero depending on what function that blinking motor is supposed to perform. After that, the next motor in the chain will blink and you do the same thing.... until you have all three motors assigned. Now you can start doing your job of pulling focus/zoom/iris.

My compliments - you really plan ahead.
I think we will order your system (have to speak with some of our regular dps if they have any objections, i suppose not :)).

dalemccready
03-23-2008, 04:19 PM
Hey Curt, Store looks great.

I'm very interested in the Impero. One thought though... It would be nice to see on the images a pic of the receiver also. Just as you browse through you have to be careful to read that the controller comes with the receiver. The info is there, but I thought a wee image of the receiver included with the controller could make it clearer.

Big question also though... Have you tested it against various other wireless devices? Such as Prestons (if A cam is running a preston while B cam is Impero etc) and video senders? Hopefully these don't interfere with your device, but also hopefully your device doesn't interfere with them either.

Dale

CVB
03-23-2008, 04:26 PM
Hey Curt, Store looks great.

I'm very interested in the Impero. One thought though... It would be nice to see on the images a pic of the receiver also. Just as you browse through you have to be careful to read that the controller comes with the receiver. The info is there, but I thought a wee image of the receiver included with the controller could make it clearer.

Big question also though... Have you tested it against various other wireless devices? Such as Prestons (if A cam is running a preston while B cam is Impero etc) and video senders? Hopefully these don't interfere with your device, but also hopefully your device doesn't interfere with them either.

Dale Someone asked that same question in another thread...
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=180982&postcount=198

Generally most if not all RF devices need to have FCC and CE certifications. Thats supposed to cover taking interference and transmitting interference. We have FCC and CE certified transceiver in our products so we have our side covered... I can't vouch for other peoples products. We'll try to get some testing here in the next couple weeks and we'll get back to you on if there are any interference issues with bartech/prestons/video feeds etc.

On the impero receiver, theres not really much to it, just 4 connectors and a pcb with a transceiver. The tooling for the enclosure should be starting in a couple weeks after which I'll put up some actual pics of both the remote and the receiver unit.

Matthew Rogers
03-23-2008, 04:45 PM
Heres a quick run down on how addressing works. Basically you will plug all three motors together and into the receiver unit. Then plug in the power cable... You will then turn on the Impero and map it to the receiver using a simple paring button. Once you're associated to the receiver you will have to map the zoom, focus, and iris buttons to their respective motors. You hit the address button on the impero receiver and one of the motors will start flashing an led... you would then press the zoom,focus or iris button on the impero depending on what function that blinking motor is supposed to perform. After that, the next motor in the chain will blink and you do the same thing.... until you have all three motors assigned. Now you can start doing your job of pulling focus/zoom/iris.

What happens when you turn the RED off and change batteries? I know you said earlier that each time you switched batteries you would have to re-calibrate the lens.

Matthew

Tai Wah Lim
03-23-2008, 04:55 PM
do we need to get bus cables for both inclino and impero..or will one suffice??

yean, ordered and payment went through for the inclino, impero and also the irigo from Curt's company. Hope they are delivered in May as scheduled.

Curt - just cannot wait to get our hands on these products in May.

CVB
03-23-2008, 05:39 PM
What happens when you turn the RED off and change batteries? I know you said earlier that each time you switched batteries you would have to re-calibrate the lens.

MatthewMatthew, Its looking like that may the the one remaining issue. We looked into having a battery backed power supply in the impero receiver but the problem is that the motors draw about 250 mA in standby mode... so basically the motors draw too much current for a small battery to sustain them during battery changes. One option may be to run a separate battery for the motors... if you get a 150 wHr battery then we could run three motors for about 4 hrs.

If thats not an option then the only alternative is to re calibrate after each battery change - the time to do that is about 15-20 seconds. If you are running three motors off the battery and are good at thinking ahead then you could actually start calibrating the motors while the camera is booting up, you should be able to get the calibration done and have a minute to spare before the camera is even ready to go.

Michael Stanmore
03-23-2008, 06:20 PM
That sounds good to me... the focus puller can be handling that while the camera op is waiting for the reboot. :)

Ivan G
03-23-2008, 07:32 PM
Heres a quick run down on how addressing works. Basically you will plug all three motors together and into the receiver unit. Then plug in the power cable... You will then turn on the Impero and map it to the receiver using a simple paring button. Once you're associated to the receiver you will have to map the zoom, focus, and iris buttons to their respective motors. You hit the address button on the impero receiver and one of the motors will start flashing an led... you would then press the zoom,focus or iris button on the impero depending on what function that blinking motor is supposed to perform. After that, the next motor in the chain will blink and you do the same thing.... until you have all three motors assigned. Now you can start doing your job of pulling focus/zoom/iris.

I'm sorry but I'm a little confused. If one standard impero can control zoom, iris, and focus why do I need the pro?

CVB
03-23-2008, 07:50 PM
There is only one input device - the control knob. You can only control the motors one at a time with the impero standard. The pro will have a couple sliders and a knob and will allow you to control all three axis at the same time. It will also have some more advanced functionality in terms of video display and lens informations etc.

Matthew Rogers
03-23-2008, 08:52 PM
One option may be to run a separate battery for the motors... if you get a 150 wHr battery then we could run three motors for about 4 hrs.

If thats not an option then the only alternative is to re calibrate after each battery change - the time to do that is about 15-20 seconds. If you are running three motors off the battery and are good at thinking ahead then you could actually start calibrating the motors while the camera is booting up, you should be able to get the calibration done and have a minute to spare before the camera is even ready to go.

So how long do you think the RED battery is going to last when it's powering the RED, EVF, RED Drive, and your motor & receiver? To me, the high power draw is the only downside to this system compared to a tradition follow focus unit.

Redoing the calibration while rebooting doesn't bother me. The only problem is if you've marked your focus ring, you need to make sure you get it to a certain point so the focus marks still align. Either that, or if you could have the motor do it's calibration, and then the motor go back to it's original spot (which would work great if someone doesn't move the focus knob while the motor is off or re-calibrating.)

Matthew

Yean Loon
03-23-2008, 09:26 PM
yean, ordered and payment went through for the inclino, impero and also the irigo from Curt's company. Hope they are delivered in May as scheduled.

Curt - just cannot wait to get our hands on these products in May.

just got my order through as well!!!

dalemccready
03-24-2008, 01:36 AM
Redoing the calibration while rebooting doesn't bother me. The only problem is if you've marked your focus ring, you need to make sure you get it to a certain point so the focus marks still align. Either that, or if you could have the motor do it's calibration, and then the motor go back to it's original spot (which would work great if someone doesn't move the focus knob while the motor is off or re-calibrating.)
Matthew

The Focus ring on the controller would still be marked as to the range of the lens would it not? so no change in your marks if the end stops of the lens are the same. Assuming of course that the physical controller also has end stops.
Unless perhaps you've reduced the scale on the controller?

Otherwise if the motors are on the lens during a change there should be no reason to lose their position.

If you pull the motors off while the power is down you'd be unlikely to place them back dead on again anyhow and a re-calibrate would end up being easier for that. But your marked disc should still work.

CVB
03-24-2008, 03:30 AM
Dale, thats correct. The calibration range should always be the same and the only issue would be if you have set a gearing ratio other than the default range. The knob is setup so it can be mechanically limited to 359 degrees or it can left to spin freely with no mechanical limitations. I forsee people using the mechanical stop 90% of the time though.

I'm looking into having the motors remember their range and defaulting to the last saved range unless you override and recalibrate... that may help with the battery changes and gearing to knob marking correlation but its going to be a risky proposition.... the first time someone forgets to recalibrate on a lens change bad things will happen - but then again you could do a lens change with power applied and still forget to recalibrate any way.

Hrvoje Simic
03-24-2008, 03:49 AM
Nice to see your products come to life. Best of luck with your project, Curt.

Emmanuel Cambier
03-24-2008, 03:54 AM
Curt,

Will the impero be able to trigger a varispeed Ramp?

Emmanuel

CVB
03-24-2008, 03:58 AM
Yes, we've already verified that the trigger and ramp functions work. We're suggesting that you use the mute when using them though so you dont hear an annoying "BEEP" in your shot when you initiate the ramp.

Michael Lindsay
03-24-2008, 04:18 AM
I'm delighted to have made an order with CVB and bros.

I hope he is able to fulfil everything that he is obviously capable off. Having said that I hope everyone realises how amazing it will be to have a remote system at the price he is offering. We should cut him a little slack if there are any bumps along the way.

He is pulling something off that, in its own more modest way, is amazing as Red one.

Good luck

Michael

Emmanuel Cambier
03-24-2008, 04:43 AM
Yes, we've already verified that the trigger and ramp functions work. We're suggesting that you use the mute when using them though so you dont hear an annoying "BEEP" in your shot when you initiate the ramp.

Whoah:love:

Emmanuel

Ziad Oakes
03-24-2008, 04:59 AM
Still having problem buying online... is it just me?

CVB
03-24-2008, 05:09 AM
I'm delighted to have made an order with CVB and bros.

I hope he is able to fulfil everything that he is obviously capable off. Having said that I hope everyone realises how amazing it will be to have a remote system at the price he is offering. We should cut him a little slack if there are any bumps along the way.

He is pulling something off that, in its own more modest way, is amazing as Red one.

Good luck

Michael Thanks Michael, that means a lot to me. We are pressuring our suppliers to get the parts back in a timely manner... that means throwing more money their way :)


Still having problem buying online... is it just me? Yes, there are still some issues. We should have some answers from our credit card gateway today. There have been a lot more orders going through lately though. I'd suggest you contact your credit card company and verify that you can place an order for whatever amount you are trying to charge... that has been an issue with a few people.

Ziad Oakes
03-24-2008, 05:19 AM
Thanks for letting me know...

HD Hildebrand
03-24-2008, 05:43 AM
My order finally went through this morning. Hopefully it will work for everybody else now too.

Cüneyt Kaya
03-24-2008, 05:50 AM
Hey Curt I would like to order via wire transfer....point me to the right direction please

Seth Larney
03-24-2008, 06:03 AM
Hi Curt,

I've been following you guys for a long time, congrats on getting your gear into production !

Just ordered the Inclino and Impero .. perfect timing too, I was just about to order an Arri FF4.

Nice work and thanks !

Stephen Pruitt
03-24-2008, 06:27 AM
We ordered yesterday. . . we are totally pumped about this product!

Stephen

Cüneyt Kaya
03-24-2008, 09:34 AM
check your mail curt....thanks

JVB
03-24-2008, 10:01 AM
check your mail curt....thanks

I'll be sure curt checks his mail...we'll get you all setup

Charles Adams
03-24-2008, 10:42 AM
Did not see in this thread, but is the VFS digital follow focus compatible with Nikon lenses provided you have the appropriate gears attached?

Curran Giddens
03-24-2008, 11:48 AM
I just got my order in via wire transfer....

I started with an online order. At the last step of the checkout process I got my order number. Then used my order number for the "Instructions" entry of the wire transfer form.

John V
03-25-2008, 10:41 PM
American Express available in a few days:)

BASSAM MSSALATIE
04-08-2008, 05:29 AM
no PayPal ?

please..:wink:

Paolo Tinari
04-08-2008, 06:05 AM
Is this real? Are you real?
You dont know what you did. I'm enthusiast of you guys.
Wish you the biggest creativity and prosperity in your business.

"...we decided to make our own solution ..." love this attitude.

David Wyatt
04-08-2008, 07:02 AM
Wow astonishingly cheap focus motor and handset - you should sell these by the bucket load if they're up to scratch! I'm off to sweet talk my bank manager...