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Jarred Land
03-16-2007, 04:44 PM
http://www.reduser.net/Battleship.jpg

Hrvoje Simic
03-16-2007, 04:50 PM
Oh yeah.

sbroock
03-16-2007, 04:51 PM
That is completely insane.

Trick will be shooting with this in Central Park without drawing a crowd.

Brian Kaz
03-16-2007, 04:52 PM
That sure looks purdy! And my likely configuration (minus the EVF- at first).

Jarred, what is the thought behind the front side grips? I mean, the rears let you drive the RED like a steering wheel (similar to fig rig), but the front? Just wondering.

-or is that for the ego maniac DPs that want to film themselves handheld....

Eirik Tyrihjel
03-16-2007, 04:58 PM
That "lens" makes me think RED has something cooking...

I am hope there is some option for the support of a follow focus, and a mattebox.

Great render though, I can´t wait (but I guess I have to)

Joe Aurili
03-16-2007, 05:03 PM
That is completely insane.

Trick will be shooting with this in Central Park without drawing a crowd.

Red should provide an option where they stick the internals of RED One into a 1980s style full size VHS camcorder. That will solve that problem ;)

Steve Gibby
03-16-2007, 05:04 PM
"Wrap it up, I'll take it. Wrap it up, I'll take it!"

- Fabulous Thunderbirds

(Sick render...in the good meaning of sick!)

LighthouseMEdia
03-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Jarred,
Just out of curiousity where will the VTR or record button be located?

CVB
03-16-2007, 05:14 PM
Good call on ditching the carbon fiber onthe EVF... I thought it looked a little rice-rockety :)

Rodrigo Lizana
03-16-2007, 05:18 PM
Looks great. I also think there´s a hidden message in that prime with the red line. No more Cookes free advertising. My best looking Red is the one with the battery and drive/flash on top - a la studio -. It´s very funny that we have (among others) two configuration very similar to the film cameras. Rear mounted magazine for hand held, top mounted mags for studio. I love that formula.
What I´ve been looking for is a good alternative to the LFF-1 lightweight follow focus. For those who were complaining about the prices of the available matteboxs wait to see the little LFF1.

Don Woods
03-16-2007, 05:20 PM
That is so bad ass on so many different levels... I argee I like the no carbon fiber on the EFV..

Rodrigo Lizana
03-16-2007, 05:28 PM
The next render should be the studio battleship with mags and batt on top and sporting long rods, mattebox and follow focus. And standing on a geared head on top of a Panther or Fisher dolly among an army of HMIs.
We need the camera !!!!.
(A poster contest [after we get the cameras of course] would bbe nice too).

Chris Gearhart
03-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Oh my. Oh. My.

Thom Steinhoff
03-16-2007, 05:38 PM
Beautiful. Just beautiful. The next Render should be... Not a render. This is just torturing us.

Come on. Just a little real shot... Blurry is okay... maybe a cell phone photo... Come on... you know you want to...

:)

Mike the beginner
03-16-2007, 05:41 PM
I hate it ....i hate it.

Jarrad you make the premiem red rail version look so damn brilliant.


Question. The twin handles LOOK to me as though they would make an overall steadier handheld image. It would also allow (if red is going to do it as an option) a record button on the right handle to allow a quick focus with the left. I take it the record button is going to be on the left?

The red cage i dont really need at all. But they appear to provide a good deal of rugged protection or am i being silly.

The price difference is a lot if money is tight. Why just one handle on the basic version? Any viewpoints appreciated.

Mike the beginner

Andreas Fernbrant
03-16-2007, 05:42 PM
It looks awsome.
But it just struck me. With the battery and drive in the back,
isn't it going to be hard to fiddle with menus? Are not all the
controls back there? (Yes, I know you can place them anywhere,
but the back is a good place)

Chris Forbes
03-16-2007, 06:13 PM
A quick question on the final conf. In the price list the camera on the top under: RED ONE CAMERA BODY has the mounting points facing the front and back of the camera. Whereas the remainder of the renders have the mounting points facing toward the sides of camera. Is there still some indecision on this?

Finner
03-16-2007, 06:16 PM
It looks awsome.
But it just struck me. With the battery and drive in the back,
isn't it going to be hard to fiddle with menus? Are not all the
controls back there? (Yes, I know you can place them anywhere,
but the back is a good place)

This had been discussed quite a bit a while back. It was said for engineering reasons the camera lcd and a few buttons would have to be on the back. There is however 2 white buttons that you can see on the smart side that will have a lot of control of features.



The bridge plate of the lower handheld grips looks like it could get in the way of a follow focus. Is this the case or is there room for a ff with the grips on?

Bruce Allen
03-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Beautiful.

What is that weird marking-less lens though? The people doing the renders of the Red body need to coordinate with the people doing the renders of the Red lens and, like, share 3D models or something, methinks...

Either that, or they have made major advancements in computer vision and don't need markings because f-stop, focus and zoom are driven by artifical intelligence. I always thought that Red sphere was HAL-like...

Happy weekend everybody. My trailer just went to filmout and I am going to have some drinks now.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

JD Holloway
03-16-2007, 06:45 PM
Say Hello To My Little Friend!!!!!

Ken Willinger
03-16-2007, 06:50 PM
The bridge plate of the lower handheld grips looks like it could get in the way of a follow focus. Is this the case or is there room for a ff with the grips on?

It looks to me, and I'm only assuming that the rails can extend forward to accomodate a FF and a mattebox and the handles also can be moved along the rails. The rendering looks great.

Brian Broz
03-16-2007, 06:59 PM
Looks fantastic! I can't help but wonder if we'll be able to trigger recording on the handgrips.
The camera is shaping up to be everything I imagined...and more.
The hits just keep on coming...

Stuart English
03-16-2007, 07:03 PM
Record buttons - see that red colored button on the "smart side" - camera left face? The one above the smaller two silver ones?

One on the back also -

Plus remote from a B4 lens if you are using that option ...

Plus RS232 ... plus ..

Jarred Land
03-16-2007, 07:04 PM
It looks awsome.
But it just struck me. With the battery and drive in the back,
isn't it going to be hard to fiddle with menus? Are not all the
controls back there? (Yes, I know you can place them anywhere,
but the back is a good place)

the battery is back enough to make menu and cable access possible.. you can push it all in tight to block the menus and controls if need be.. but i wouldnt advise it.

Jarred Land
03-16-2007, 07:05 PM
Jarred,
Just out of curiousity where will the VTR or record button be located?

there is one on the camera left side, one on the back.

Jarred Land
03-16-2007, 07:08 PM
It looks to me, and I'm only assuming that the rails can extend forward to accomodate a FF and a mattebox and the handles also can be moved along the rails. The rendering looks great.

dont worry.. the rig we have been using for the last week has follow focus, mattebox, lens support, battery, drive, and more open mounting holes then i know what to do with... and it all works great together.

wait till you guys see the EVF...

Don Woods
03-16-2007, 07:13 PM
I wanna see it now...... sorry this brings out my inner child..

Bing Bailey
03-16-2007, 08:26 PM
Actually with those handles and a good steady cam rig you could hold this puppy out like a gatling gun , rat tat tat tat :)

RobRoySyd
03-16-2007, 08:44 PM
Wouldn't it more rigid if those rods were one piece all the way under the plate, similar to how Zacuto do it? That gives each rod a point of attachment at the front and rear of the camera reducing the turning moment.

Brook Willard
03-16-2007, 08:49 PM
wait till you guys see the EVF...

Having just spent the day with my face crammed into a Varicam's EVF, I can't wait to see this thing...

Great looking render. Have any with MB/FF?

Chris Armstrong
03-16-2007, 08:55 PM
That thing looks awesome. I too would love to see it in a studio configuration (MB & FF).

Jaime Vallés
03-16-2007, 08:56 PM
Beautiful...

Alexander Nikishin
03-16-2007, 10:03 PM
Awesome Jarred, I love the new ruffed up looking render of the LCD. I too can't wait to adopt a bad ash EVF into my operating.

Daniel Reichenbach
03-16-2007, 11:02 PM
Awesome Jarred, I love the new ruffed up looking render of the LCD. I too can't wait to adopt a bad ash EVF into my operating.

What I expectet and hoped: the rubber handles from Jims earlyer days are still here :sarcasm: RED is it, what else to say?

Brook Willard
03-16-2007, 11:20 PM
Hey team: can the rubber handles be swapped out for mounting points as per the original design of the cage [or the version presented at the LA screening]?

Jarred Land
03-16-2007, 11:24 PM
the mounting arms arn't a current option at release time, but that doesn't mean they wont resurface down the road sometime..

just FYI though.. the new arms still have 1/4-20 mounting holes on them, two holes on the top, two on the bottom.

Brook Willard
03-16-2007, 11:28 PM
Shoot, I was really hoping I'd be able to put the kitchen sink on there somewhere...

Another one: can one have handles on only half the body with the rail/rod/low-mount still properly mounted? I.E. can I have everything in that picture mounted as it's mounted with the exception of the two arms on EVF-side?

Jannard
03-16-2007, 11:31 PM
Brook... you can do anything you want.

Jim

Chris Gearhart
03-17-2007, 06:24 AM
Wouldn't it more rigid if those rods were one piece all the way under the plate, similar to how Zacuto do it? That gives each rod a point of attachment at the front and rear of the camera reducing the turning moment.

My guess is that it's very solid. The body and connector look very rigid. . . like they will take a lot of torque.

Michael Hastings
03-17-2007, 06:32 AM
Any chance we can have something simple for a remote record button, like a mini plug, that would be just a close contact circuit. I.E. a simple momentary switch tied to a mini phone plug - no RS232, no hirose B4 connection, just hit the button and it starts - hit it again it stops.

It would make my life designing underwater housings really simple, but I bet a lot of people would find it useful - Nature shooters, jib operators, etc.

Pretty please??


Record buttons - see that red colored button on the "smart side" - camera left face? The one above the smaller two silver ones?

One on the back also -

Plus remote from a B4 lens if you are using that option ...

Plus RS232 ... plus ..

Sanjin Jukic
03-17-2007, 06:52 AM
Great renderings,
also looking forward to 3D QTVR that we could spin the cam and zoom in details and not like now asking the questions like "what is behind the...?". Could be also something interactive. For example you move LCD wherever you want. Choose a lens mount and a lens etc...

Could be possible to get this "sneak peak" interactive 3D renderings before NAB because not even the RED Team (according to Jim) can have the shipping cam in hands til April 12!!??

I see buying the RED ONE like buying new handy, you go online, read specs and features and after that you look a bit in 3D, spin, zoom, build up your own RED and then click to order. Easy and fast. Let us have to play with something like this before we get the RED ONE delivered. A MODULAR DESIGN is the best presented like an INTERACTIVE 3D in Flash, Shockwave or QTVR. Build to order the RED.

MikeCurtis
03-17-2007, 07:33 AM
Why, when I see this, am I mentally picturing Grand Moff Tarkin idly saying:

"You may fire when ready."

followed by

"Don't worry, we'll deal with your rebel friends soon enough..."

:D

-mike

Sanjin Jukic
03-17-2007, 07:37 AM
Why, when I see this, am I mentally picturing Grand Moff Tarkin idly saying:

"You may fire when ready."

followed by

"Don't worry, we'll deal with your rebel friends soon enough..."

:D

-mike

Kindisch Michael. Sorry Mike but I don't see so much "good" sense of humor in your comment or a "joke". Not that everything is funny.

Joe Carney
03-17-2007, 07:46 AM
Which side are the xlr audio inputs located on?

LighthouseMEdia
03-17-2007, 08:11 AM
Thanks for all the info Jarred!!
Makes it easier to make informed buying decisions.

Finner
03-17-2007, 08:38 AM
dont worry.. the rig we have been using for the last week has follow focus, mattebox, lens support, battery, drive, and more open mounting holes then i know what to do with... and it all works great together.

wait till you guys see the EVF...


Jarred, what matte box and ff have you guys been useing?

tj williams
03-17-2007, 08:57 AM
Hey Aqua, if there is a remote start from B4 lenses then all you need is a wire and a momentary switch for start stop!

Thirdman, Great Post!!! Wouldn't it be nice if you could do some placing of parts so anyone could go to the site's online catalog and design their own. Also all these repeated questions of "what is that" would pretty much go away if there was a rotating rendering where you click on a point on the rendering and up pops a balloon ie.... "1/4 20 mounting hole" "start stop button" I think this would have the additional benefit of driving even more traffic to the RED web site.

Another nice thing would be to wiggle the parts like you could in a real camera for instance I can't tell if the viewfinder rotates on a ball socket like shown in some earlier renderings or is on the RED arm and must be released to rotate.

I know everyone is going to say....They don't have time etc....
These are renderings from original cad Right. so the time to convert them to rotaters with labels would be pretty minimal.

Sanjin Jukic
03-17-2007, 10:03 AM
Like with all interactive advertising on the Internet you have web studios worldwide that could easy and fast develop interactive 3D RED ONE sub-site. Only it is a question how much it cost or does Jim like an idea or...??? Could be developed in 1-3 months for sure, something before shipping camera starts...

Rob Lohman
03-17-2007, 01:03 PM
Which side are the xlr audio inputs located on?

Right side of the camera. See the photos in the camera tour