Pricing mistake...

[Jannard]

Oops... we made a pricing mistake.

The charger is only $550 (not $750) and the Power Kit is $1450 (not $1650).

In our haste to post prices, we made an error. Our apologies. Changes to our website will be made shortly.

Jim

[Jarred Land]

you gotta love these kinda errors...

[Shawn Nelson]

Freaking fantastic! Thanks Jim!

[Jannard]

I guess that makes us only $200 more for a 5.6" LCD and pro battery system vs. a 3.5" LCD and prosumer battery system...

Our buyer apologizes.

Jim

[IAN SUN]

Good news that. Every little bit helps. Thanks.

[Rick Darge]

I am so pissed off..


How could you make such a mistake?!

I'm going to send you $200 extra for this!! You haven't heard the last from me!

[Jarred Land]

I'm going to send you $200 extra for this!! You haven't heard the last from me!



Make sure you write " Care of Jarred Land " on that envelope when you send it in, i'll make sure it gets to the right person :) :shiftyph34r:

[jeffry alan]

a literal LOL

J*

[Hoffmann Films]

Sounds good, any time you want to lower prices its good news....

[Roberto B]

Make sure you write " Care of Jarred Land " on that envelope when you send it in, i'll make sure it gets to the right person :) :shiftyph34r:lmao.. you made me laugh.. ;-)

[Jannard]

One thing to keep in mind...

The Japanese Army- 180,000
Sony employees- 160,000
RED full time employees- 14

We are doing the best we can... :-)

Jim

[Hoffmann Films]

Jim, You and the RED team are doing an amazing job..Thank you very much!

[Emanuel A.]

I second that! No worries there.

[James T Mather]

One thing to keep in mind...

The Japanese Army- 180,000
Sony employees- 160,000
RED full time employees- 14
Jim

Zak Snyder's already got "14" in preproductionI believe - (below) before the Sony hordes descended. "Madness? This. Is. RED!!"


JimJannardium removes a spear from the fallen JarredLandium. Note the film's camera themed art direction at the head of the staff.
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/2/1156746055.jpg

[Mardi_Gras]

You are one hell of a guy, Jim, it aint even funny.

Cool!

[Daniel Reichenbach]

lmao.. you made me laugh.. ;-)

Laughing is more than the value of 200 bucks. Oh, what a beautifull day (in europe). Spring is coming :clown2:

[Daniel Reichenbach]

One thing to keep in mind...

The Japanese Army- 180,000
Sony employees- 160,000
RED full time employees- 14

We are doing the best we can... :-)

Jim

14 brains in best condition against 340'000 harakiri people... Reduce to the max and you will be on the top of the max...

[Mardi_Gras]

14 brains in best condition against 340'000 harakiri people... Reduce to the max and you will be on the top of the max...

That sounds kinda racist, don't u think?

[Daniel Reichenbach]

That sounds kinda racist, don't u think?

Hmmm, you're right. I love Japan, but I don't love harakiri

[Daniel Reichenbach]

Or better to say: I don't understand it...

[Hrvoje Simic]

Sony employees- 160,000
RED full time employees- 14



well, they do have many departments...

-so that still leaves you 14 to probably three figure squad...


and...aaa...I believe there was a recent "mistake" mentioned :meh:

[Emanuel A.]

You are one hell of a guy, Jim, it aint even funny.

Cool!He looks good, very good indeed. :-)

Here's him again (in this third page):


Zak Snyder's already got "14" in preproductionI believe - (below) before the Sony hordes descended. "Madness? This. Is. RED!!"


JimJannardium removes a spear from the fallen JarredLandium. Note the film's camera themed art direction at the head of the staff.
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/2/1156746055.jpg

I'm sorry cinematography.com boards guys (I know you read these lines and you've been missing my posts -- actually, I still just don't remember my password :)) but I like this guy, beyond the Forbes ranking and his airplane or airplanes.

EDIT -- Business aside, REDuser.net is a friendly community for distinctive RED friends -- that's all!

[PaulClements]

Great news, don't suppose you made any more mistakes :) j/k of course

[Michael Schrengohst]

Don't worry, once you start shipping cameras I am sure RED owners will develop into an unstoppable sales force.

[Steve Gibby]

Ah, c’mon, there ya go reducing prices when us RED One adopters are already having a hard time convincing the rest of the production world that a camera so modestly priced can possibly really deliver what it's specs claim....

Dang it, in an industry where everyone loves bragging to their friends and business associates about what they paid for stuff, moves like price reductions are seriously raining on our credibility parade!

Oh well, the price to performance ratio just changed. Boy, am I going to catch flak for having a camera that is supposed to do all that, but now costs less. Everyone knows that in this industry "You don't get what you pay for!" How am I going to explain that I'm getting a lot more than I'm paying for?!

This has really put me in a bind...:cold:

[Emanuel A.]

Everyone knows that in this industry "You don't get what you pay for!" How am I going to explain that I'm getting a lot more than I'm paying for?!I believe all this point on subject is not more than the versatility of the RED user. In my country, we say they are more than the mothers. LOL As matter of fact, there are different worlds outside and inside. Even I, all my work is not based on just one environment. For instance, for education or production purposes the things can change. Regarding the production field, there are several distinctive levels of moviemaking, art and business. That's why the issue hasn't the same value for everybody.

[Corrado Silveri]

Oh, Jim.

Are you soooo crafty?

[peter roehsler]

Oops... we made a pricing mistake.
Jim

oh well, never mind - I guess shit happens.
A couple of more mistakes like this and I shall have to order a third body.

[Don Woods]

I can't belive that... Now I have to find less money.. You are making this so hard for us to get this camera system...

[Steve Gibby]

Emanuel,

I think something got lost in the translation...my post was satire/humor!

[Mike the beginner]

One thing to keep in mind...

The Japanese Army- 180,000
Sony employees- 160,000
RED full time employees- 14

We are doing the best we can... :-)

Jim


So you have spilled the beans then!!!!!

I just knew you had too many staff, how else could you get all this done is such a short period of time:whistling:

Mike the beginner

[Ronnie Silos]

You know how much this is gonna cost to have to re-visit my budget. You already posted the battery price, you can't just not honor it. Is this legal? :clown2:

Ronnie

[Gunleik Groven]

Probably not!

Let's do a class action against red to pay the extra 200!

I'm in. Now!

-;)

Gunleik

[Michael Schrengohst]

Ironic - America was the leader in cars for so long
and then those imports from Japan starting coming in,
cheap cars not so great but the oil problems of the 70's
gave them the in. And then came the parade of other
Jananese products - now Chinese. - Is RED the redemption
of American innovation?
Maybe that is the pricing structure?
Buy the best video camera made in America
for the price of a 1990's Toyota?
Instead of buying a Japanese camera for the
price of a Rolls Royce?

[Paris Remillard]

Hey, Jim, or anyone else at RED, what about the LCD cables? The cables that were listed as being included in the price of the LCD are now missing from that list. Is/was that a pricing mistake also, or is a mistake now that they are absent? Do we have to pay the extra $200 or $300 bucks to be able to connect the LCD to camera? I posted this in it's own thread, but I thought I'd ask here since it's on the topic of pricing errors.

[Stuart English]

The LCD (just like the EVF) does come with an integrated digital signal, power and control interface cable, just not the 3 ft or 10 ft length cables which are options. You do not have to pay extra to use the LCD (or the EVF) with the camera.

[Gunleik Groven]

Hm...

I'll need the 10 ft...

What am I looking at?

Gunleik

[Stuart English]

Umm - I believe what I said above stands, but let me check and get back to you guys.

[Gunleik Groven]

That'd be good to get some updated info on.

The two cables seemed like the perfct jib/steadycam partners + the problemsolvers for the "What do I do when my cables break?" situation that will eventually occur...

Appreciated!

Gunleik

[Gunleik Groven]

@ the moment the two previoucly included cables are priced @ a grand total of 500$

http://red.com/pricelist.htm

That's a bummer.

Gunleik

[Chris Gearhart]

Oh man. I'm bummed.

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Reduce to the max

Hey, that was the title of a film I´ve worked on in Switzerland. Didn´t know it became a proverb....

[Roberto B]

The LCD (just like the EVF) does come with an integrated digital signal, power and control interface cable, just not the 3 ft or 10 ft length cables which are options. You do not have to pay extra to use the LCD (or the EVF) with the camera.

and if i need to go further with another external monitor, how does it work?

thx

[Gunleik Groven]

Use HD-SDI

[Dominic Jones]

I've just noticed that the Red Arm is no longer included in the LCD package, as well - so the price of the full LCD system has just jumped by, what, $475??

I can't say I'm overly chuffed to see that...

[Holosynthetic]

I've just noticed that the Red Arm is no longer included in the LCD package, as well - so the price of the full LCD system has just jumped by, what, $475??

I can't say I'm overly chuffed to see that...

I know someone complained about it coming with the arm when the EVF already had one (since they planned to get both? and use them at different times?) but it looks like Jannard took it to heart without changing the price, which does help explain the pricing error with the batteries...

[Dominic Jones]

Hmmm... Well...

IMHO, if you get both you're most likely going to want to mount both - the most likely setup would be EVF for operator, LCD for AC - so I'm not so sure about that logic, although I see what you're saying.

Still not very happy about that, but there you go...

[Adrian Correia]

so, is there any other way to mount the LCD without the arm? So the charger price snafu basically balances out for those of us who will get both the EVF and the LCD?

[donatello b]

I too plan to buy both and need arms for both ... also if i rent out the LCD or EFV ( one not both) to another RED user i'll need to have a Arm for my Red ...

[Gunleik Groven]

err.. not really, if you add those 3 and 10 feet cables, then you're 500$ down @ the moment...

Gunleik

[Adrian Correia]

sorry Gunleik, just thinking if you just want to mount it to the camera....yes the cables do make it a decidedly more robust investment.

[fightordie]

One thing to keep in mind...

The Japanese Army- 180,000
Sony employees- 160,000
RED full time employees- 14

We are doing the best we can... :-)

Jim

Yes but you also had more than 1500 (?) people who helped with a roundtable like discussion of development ideas I assume have been incorporated in to the camera and who have also spread the word which i also assume kept the process fun, viable, and more known throughout the world. All for an allowance that is considerably cheaper than the more mainstream route companies like Sony would have paid.

[KETCH ROSSi]

you gotta love these kinda errors...

ABSOLUTELLY!

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

[Mardi_Gras]

Yes but you also had more than 1500 (?) people who helped with a roundtable like discussion of development ideas I assume have been incorporated in to the camera and who have also spread the word which i also assume kept the process fun, viable, and more known throughout the world. All for an allowance that is considerably cheaper than the more mainstream route companies like Sony would have paid.

The only differences being:

RedOne deveopment process: Open-Interactive-Forum
Sony development process: Top-Secret-Espionage-Proof-System