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Antoine Fabi
03-28-2008, 12:23 PM
OK,

The camera is awesome.

I'd like these 3 menu modifications, if possible:

1) Keep the last manual WB in memory, even if you travel into WB presets.

2) Access to variable frame rate at a chosen resolution without having to change the res in the project menu each time we use variable frame rates.

Ex 4K project for normal frame rate.
Hit the variable frame and voila. 3K or 2K instantly.
Desactivate VarFR, then you'd go immediately back to project setting :4K 24p.

3) It would be so much easier to focus: to be able to shoot "while" using zoom both the "in camera" (user button) and LCD zoom in functions at the same time. ( 2 zoom levels)

Voila

thanks for listening.

Antoine

Justin McAleece
03-28-2008, 01:56 PM
I agree it does seem like there are a few too many steps to change back and forth between 2k and 4k for high speed. I also think it takes a little too long to click 90 some odd times to get from 24 to 120. I like the one step increments but wish it would ramp the selection or have presets or have a (shift) key to hold down when you wanted non standard increments.

Antoine Fabi
03-29-2008, 07:51 AM
yep,

It can be a problem when you suddenly think "that shot would be nice in slow motion".

Robert Berger
03-29-2008, 09:45 AM
OK,

The camera is awesome.

I'd like these 3 menu modifications, if possible:

1) Keep the last manual WB in memory, even if you travel into WB presets.

2) Access to variable frame rate at a chosen resolution without having to change the res in the project menu each time we use variable frame rates.

Ex 4K project for normal frame rate.
Hit the variable frame and voila. 3K or 2K instantly.
Desactivate VarFR, then you'd go immediately back to project setting :4K 24p.

3) It would be so much easier to focus: to be able to shoot "while" using zoom both the "in camera" (user button) and LCD zoom in functions at the same time. ( 2 zoom levels)

Voila

thanks for listening.

Antoine
But you also have to change your shuttertime, you go to 120 fps your shutterspeed have to go to 1/240 if you have in 4K 1/48 fot 24 fps.

So more to change....

Anders Holck
03-29-2008, 11:07 AM
1. Also please make it so that the fps range wraps around.
So to go from 24 fps to 120 fps you simply need to decrease by 25 stops to the left.

2.Actually I hate the little wheel so much that I think you should enable the playback control buttons to increment in the menus:
FF=+1
Next clip=+10
REW=-1
Prev clip=-10
Pressing play would still enter the VTR mode.
This would make it a lot easier to operate if the back is blocked by a disk or battery as yo can still reach those buttons from the top. The big fingerguard simply makes the wheel to hard to rotate when space is tight.

3. Where is the 1/75 sec shutter. Build 15 goes straight from 1/60 to 1/96. Us in Euroland need this very much!

Brook Willard
03-29-2008, 11:39 AM
Here are a few of my quick suggestions:

When Varispeed is enabled, invert the colors on the camera's rear display. Make everything black into white and everything white into black. This will make it immediately apparent when glancing at the screen that something has been changed. Since one cannot hear the camera cycling film, there is no way to have that "oh, s__t" realization that it's shooting a higher frame rate when you roll. Yes, one could look at the monitor and see the change in the motion characteristics to judge that varispeed is enabled... but not everybody has access to a monitor. Putting a little varispeed indicator on the already cluttered rear display wouldn't be obvious enough... inverting the colors would be.

This will also help to avoid shooting with varispeed enabled at the project's native frame rate. I can't tell you how many times the camera will suddenly decide to turn varispeed on at 24fps in a 23.98 project. I can't judge that from the motion characteristics and I don't always use a RED LCD to see that varispeed is enabled. Once again, inverting the colors on the rear display would make it very obvious that something is different.

Here's a post I made in another thread regarding force reel. I think it may have gotten swallowed up in the off-topic posting in that thread, so I wanted to repost it.

The "force reel" menu needs to be redesigned. The checkbox just doesn't make the changes obvious. There need to be two buttons and a reel selector. First select the reel, then click either "force all reels" [which would force the reel to your selected number and continue the sequence afterwards] or "force individual reel" [which would force the reel to your selected number but return to the prior sequence afterwards].

For example.

Camera just shot A004. I put in a card which I want to be A009. I put in the card [camera labels it A005], go to the force reel menu and select A009. I select the "force individual reel" button. The camera relabels the empty card from A005 to A009. I shoot out the card and reload. The next empty card I put in is labeled A005 by the camera.

Or, conversely...

Camera just shot A004. I wrap one project and start on another, wishing to start with A001 again. I put in the card [camera labels it A005], go to the force reel menu and select A001. I select the "force all reels" button. The camera relabels the empty card from A005 to A001. I shoot out the card and reload. The next empty card I put in is labeled A002 by the camera.

These should be two separate buttons and not checkboxes. A button gets a result, a checkbox toggles an option. Since I see this as more of a result operation, a checkbox doesn't make sense to me.

Anders Holck
03-29-2008, 12:10 PM
Also:
Please make the "Post" text "not red"
People looking at the LCD thinks the camera is recording when its actaully closing the file and making proxies, because the text is red at the same place as the red timecode indicates record. Making it "Not red" (yellow?) would streamline this.

Nick Shaw
03-29-2008, 12:26 PM
I would like to see the option of having more information than TC and clip name shown in the bottom of the 720p area that is visible on the HD-SDI output. The ability to customise that info line would be very useful.

Even if full customisation was not enabled, one very useful piece of information would be the dropped frame indicator. That way when the camera is on a jib or somewhere equally inaccessible, you could be confident no frames were dropped during a take, without bringing the camera down each time.

I know that DVI gives all this info, but it is not always practical, and cannot be down-converted and sent wirelessly.

BASSAM MSSALATIE
03-29-2008, 12:44 PM
playback control buttons to increment in the menus:

FF=+1
Next clip=+10
REW=-1
Prev clip=-10

Pressing play would still enter the VTR mode.
This would make it a lot easier to operate if the back is blocked by a disk or battery as yo can still reach those buttons from the top. !

Thanks Andrew hope RED hear you it is very good suggestion

Steve Freebairn
03-29-2008, 10:41 PM
This is a great idea, there has to be a better way so that going to 120 fps doesn't take so long. What would be nice is to enable camera settings on the SD card, so you could set up several different camera settings. For example you could have one file that would change all the settings to B/W 120 FPS 2K, another one could be 23.98 4k with 3200K color temp. and tint to -5. Maybe even let us assign them to custom buttons. (another interesting thing would be to make an accessory that connects with the USB port that allows for like 4-6 custom presets to be configured) Then the input pad could be mounted on the top rods.


1. Also please make it so that the fps range wraps around.
So to go from 24 fps to 120 fps you simply need to decrease by 25 stops to the left.

2.Actually I hate the little wheel so much that I think you should enable the playback control buttons to increment in the menus:
FF=+1
Next clip=+10
REW=-1
Prev clip=-10
Pressing play would still enter the VTR mode.
This would make it a lot easier to operate if the back is blocked by a disk or battery as yo can still reach those buttons from the top. The big fingerguard simply makes the wheel to hard to rotate when space is tight.

3. Where is the 1/75 sec shutter. Build 15 goes straight from 1/60 to 1/96. Us in Euroland need this very much!