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Brandon Fraley
03-30-2008, 09:58 PM
will the charger charge a battery at the same time?
Radoslav Karapetkov
03-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Interesting question. I'd like to know too.
Cail Young
03-30-2008, 11:27 PM
No, it will not.
Brandon Fraley
03-31-2008, 01:06 AM
damnit
Jason Laramy
03-31-2008, 01:49 AM
- I bought the AC adapter for $135 so i could charge and AC at the same time. -
Rainer Fritz
03-31-2008, 06:37 AM
any news on the usage of the ac-adapter? in uk was a cam damaged by it.
Brandon Fraley
03-31-2008, 09:04 AM
- I bought the AC adapter for $135 so i could charge and AC at the same time. -

what ac adapter is this?
Gary Stone
03-31-2008, 09:52 AM
right here. (http://www.red.com/store/product_detail/78)
Thom Steinhoff
03-31-2008, 10:21 AM
I ordered it but never received it--I was told it was back ordered. Did someone else receive it?
David Didato
03-31-2008, 10:38 AM
I have received one. Tested and working.
dino g
03-31-2008, 10:48 AM
works fine in the Uk and in europe, as well as australia, the middle east and in africa (last two are UK standard 3 prong 220 plugs)

actually i find that the battery chargers work better on 220 dc.

and no, you cannot charge and power at the same time with the charger.
Brandon Fraley
03-31-2008, 11:36 AM
- I bought the AC adapter for $135 so i could charge and AC at the same time. -

so wait, does this work or not?

EDIT: WAIT, so this is a SEPARATE device from the charger? so you use this instead, while the charger charges?
Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock
03-31-2008, 11:41 AM
Yep, this is a much better solution for using mains power. The charger (with the help of a long cable) can power the cam, but first of all: It´s too loud (fan), and second: you´re not recharging the bricks.

Jochen
David Wyatt
03-31-2008, 12:45 PM
any news on the usage of the ac-adapter? in uk was a cam damaged by it.

If anyone uses the Elpac AC adaptor I strongly urge them to use a surge protector with it - not using one was what killed our Red camera! My understanding from Red is that the other way of powering the camera (via the cable that plugs into the charger) allows the camera to power down safely if there's a power surge. As others have said you can't power the camera via the charger and charge a battery at the same time so the Elpac allows you to charge while the camera runs off mains, however after our nasty experience we've decided to avoid mains power like the absolute plague (we've now got two chargers and four batteries which is enough to keep you going all day - so no need to power off the mains).

Incidentally I don't know what it's like for the Red but a technician once explained to me that you will get a worse picture from powering a tape-based camera from the mains with small power fluctuations than you would from powering it from batteries [commence flaming...now!]
Axel Mertes
03-31-2008, 02:26 PM
We have two of the AC adaptors.

Use it very often. Sometimes even on set, as its less weight than a RED battery, so you can tape it on the camera and become "cabled mobile". Worked out well in two shoots now. Video village was connected anyway, so cables where there, one more wasn't the issue.

What happend as the camera got damaged?

Axel
jimhare
03-31-2008, 03:24 PM
David,
That must have been awful! So Elpac AC is the RED AC adapter (not battery charger?)

Does the battery charger have surge protection? Sounds like it provides extra security if using mains on the RED. Is this the case?

Jim
Jarred Land
03-31-2008, 10:49 PM
I use the Elpac on mains.. its light and compact (somewhat) and is a little less awkward than chaining through the charger. On the road though.. the charger is a great double source because it takes up alot less space than carrying two supplies.
Costelloe Michael
03-31-2008, 10:54 PM
I use the Elpac on mains.. its light and compact (somewhat) and is a little less awkward than chaining through the charger. On the road though.. the charger is a great double source because it takes up alot less space than carrying two supplies.

Jarred,

Do you use a surge protector as David Wyatt advises, or are we to take it that this was a freak occurence?

Michael C
Jarred Land
03-31-2008, 11:00 PM
I use a surge protector only if its convenient.... Definitely a freak case with David.
David Wyatt
04-01-2008, 04:03 AM
It kind of depends how much you trust the power supply in the location you're using (where we were appears to be pretty flaky and we all film in a variety of locations, some with questionable power). Another big problem with the Elpac is that the kettle plug doesn't lock in like an XLR cable does, so it can easily get kicked out (I've seen it happen - camera just powers down instantly which would be a problem if you were recording to RedDrive. After that we took to taping down the kettle lead which looked a bit Mickey Mouse). I've noticed the power units that come with things like the Panasonic 8" monitor et al have an XLR-like locking connector for the power cable - would it be possible for future models of the Elpac to have a similar connector? Obviously an uninterrupted power supply isn't a huge issue for a monitor but it seems to be essential for something that is essentially a computer recording to a hard drive.
Michael Brennan
04-01-2008, 06:04 AM
Does the AC input on RED have reverse polarity and or surge protection?

It is very unusual for a mains unit to take out a camera.




Mike Brennan
BASSAM MSSALATIE
04-01-2008, 02:12 PM
I use the Elpac on mains..

IS IT Different form AC adapter that Red supply ??
http://www.red.com/store/product_detail/78
Jarred Land
04-01-2008, 02:15 PM
nope.. its the same thing.
Cail Young
04-01-2008, 04:34 PM
I've noticed the power units that come with things like the Panasonic 8" monitor et al have an XLR-like locking connector for the power cable - would it be possible for future models of the Elpac to have a similar connector?

My favourite is PowerCon from Neutrik.

LINK (http://www.neutrik.com/fl/en/industry/204_390365502/PowerCon%c2%ae_20_Amp_productlist.aspx)