Overview Diagram

[Michael Morlan]

This diagram at the top of this thread will automatically update every time I make a change. Just check this post for the latest.

http://austinfilmtools.com/assets/gear/red_one_workflow.gif (http://austinfilmtools.com/pages/gear_red_one/red_one_workflow_camera.htm)

[Jarred Land]

Thanks Michael.. Great document for people.

[Pig]

Great diagram, Michael.

This has probably come up before, but what about the audio stream[s]? Are some of these outputs two channel only and others 4 channel, and some no audio?

[tj williams]

The place it deserves!!!!

[Don Woods]

Much thanks good work

[Don Woods]

I love the bottom astrec

[Milan Nikolic]

Thanks Michael for your superb work!

[david farland]

Mike,
Couple of bits of info since your last diag update.

EVF output is 1280x720p
LCD output is 1024x600p
RAW data port is 10gigE Fibre
USB2 x 2 ports
Audio output is 2ch XLR


As always...many thanks,
Dave

[Steven Parker]

Nice work, Michael!

Your diagram has saved me from posting about seven or eight dumb questions - worth its weight in gold!

[Michael Morlan]

Thanks, everyone, for the kudos. Glad the diagram is of use.

Thanks, David, for the extra info. Version 19 is now up. Just refresh your browser and scan my first post in the thread.

Fovean - love the name. :biggrin:

[Ivan G]

Very self explanatory! Great Work!

[Jarek Zabczynski]

"FUBARed" :biggrin:

[Brook Willard]

1270p is listed as s35mm, not s16mm. Upper-left quadrant of the chart, following the 10gigE output from the RED ONE.

[Tom Lowe]

what is the bottleneck or speed limitation of the SATA connection going out to the RED Flash? If you threw 20 large CF cards into a RAID configuration, could that connection handle 900MB/s, for example, to record high-fps 4K uncompressed to flash memory?

[Jeff Kilgroe]

SATA (presumably SATA II here) tops out at 300MB/s.

[Tom Lowe]

SATA (presumably SATA II here) tops out at 300MB/s.

:sad:

[Paul Wizikowski]

So is it unknown how we would record the uncompressed raw files?

[david farland]

They've said it's to be 10gig Ethernet fibre.

I'd presume as they're released the raw port price ($6,500) they'll give details of this interface at NAB.

Also expecting details of REDRAID sometime!

REDRAID is RED product that records uncompressed off Raw port.

DF

[icecold]

What distance is allowed to have between Red-Drive or Red-Ram and Camera. Is there a maximum distance defined by the eSATA connection?

[tomf]

hi Michael,

thanks for the great diagram. i suppose that the imminent release of FCP6/FCS2 would imply some additions/changes to your diagram... specifically in the area of FCP6's ability to drop/work with REDCODE RAW files directly in the timeline -- which presumably (unless i have my information wrong) means that you can skip the initial REDCINE step?

thanks again for doing the work to put that diagram together.
-t

[Gavin Greenwalt]

One little question/fix: Shouldn't the USB port be a <----> arrow not just ---> to the computer? Can LUTs only be downloaded using the USB or can they uploaded through usb as well?

[Mark Pugh]

the diagram seems to imply 720p up to 120fps at up to 35mm frame size. I didn't think this was possible, and doesn't seem to be by looking at the Red Site.

[Insquall]

I think this diagram needs to be slightly clearer in showing which lines pass through each other and which lines connect to each other.

[morpheusfilm]

The diagram is nice, but what would be really helpful is a diagram of what actually works NOW, not what the future will hold. It would be great to have that to show to editors and producers so that the real world workflows can be figured out best for the application of the system on-set tomorrow morning or next Monday. I've been searching the boards for rumors of a 16 gig CF card testing out as workable but to have a reference chart of present tested workflow and also more importantly, capacity at 4K,2K, &(Gpm) Gigs per minute on a CF, on an external firewire drive, etc.. with what is available at present would really be a great way to get all the production people involved on the same page. I have to search the boards now for several hours to find out what's the best way to solve the issues this week, and would sure be nice to have one of the moderators compile this info for quick digestion. How about a weekly updated sticky graph?

[fphgrb01]

great diagram, thanks a lot for putting it all together! I might have missed something but I need to ask: due to speed constrains 4k could not be recorded on CF cards, right?

[David Birdy]

Great Diagram Thanks

A few questions..

Will both viewfinders output a signal at the same time?
How is audio handled…Acquired?

Thanks

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

due to speed constrains 4k could not be recorded on CF cards, right?


it can be recorded. 8 gb= around over 4 minutes of 4k :biggrin:

[fphgrb01]

I could not read it off the diagram, but it is good to know, thanks!

[Michael Morlan]

Okay, a long overdue update to the overview diagram. Check it at the top of the thread. Let me know if there are any glaring errors.

Michael

[galexander]

Okay, a long overdue update to the overview diagram. Check it at the top of the thread. Let me know if there are any glaring errors.

Michael

what is the chipset of 10GigE port?

[Curran Giddens]

what is the chipset of 10GigE port?

The RAW data port has been discontinued.

[R. Gonzales]

The RAW data port has been discontinued.

WOW!!

When did this happen?

Method

[galexander]

The RAW data port has been discontinued.

then why is it still on the "new" and most recent drawing then?

[Curran Giddens]

Just announced yesterday. I guess due to lack of demand.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=131411#post131411

I had it on pre-order since May. Oh well....

[Michael Morlan]

Well, that's news. (GAlexander, I sporadically keep up the diagram from what info I've gleaned from the site. Hence, my request for others to check its accuracy.)

So, RAW port removed from diagram.

Oh, and the EVF is grayed out as "future" since they aren't in full production yet. :-)

[galexander]

anyone else think that maybe it will be come kind of DAT?

these can be fairly cheap, throw a lot of data at them.... it s big pain as you would have to play it back but you wouldn't need massive raid arrays.

[Gunleik Groven]

Unfortunately it has been stated pretty clearly that the 1080 4:4:4 over HD-SDI is not a future option.

My guess is that they'll give the dual HD-SDI's a go as a RAW data-port for less compressed media. But that's only my 2c

Gunleik

[Vigen Vartanov]

Sorry i didn't understand , dose 1080 4:4:4 working , can i youse dual link from SDI ,
Thanks.

[Michael Morlan]

Bilba,

Dual link 1080p is in the original specs from some months ago. It is grayed out because it is currently not available and, per some correspondence, may be abandoned.

Best,

michael

[Snow R. Shai]

Thank you Michael and the forum for the updated info.

[Spike Baumann]

Hey Michael, great info. Can I link to it from my site?

[Michael Morlan]

Hi Spike,

Yes, of course. Here's the link:

http://austinfilmtools.com/pages/gear_red_one/red_one_workflow_camera.htm

It should stay there for a long time. If I move it, I will also update the link to the original image at the top of this thread.

Best,

Michael

[diegoz]

Great work! Thanks for posting it!
Can I put it in the site of Uruguayan AC's? aacu.com.uy (soon in English!)

[Michael Morlan]

Diegoz,

Yes, of course. It has already appeared in several print and web publications so feel free to post it, unaltered, on yours.

Best,

Michael

[Spike Baumann]

Thanks!!!

[Kwan Khan]

Absolutely Great
thanks Michael

[Christian Edwards]

Workin on any schematic updates Michael?

[Mitch Martinez]

The links are broken... If they can be updated, that'd be awesome.

[Matt Williams]

Yeah if someone could please re-upload the diagram(s) or provide a new link to the diagram that would be most appreciated.

[Lance Young]

Yes, I would love to see it as well, if its still available. Thanks!

[Harva Raj]

very much in need of the diagram now

[Don V. Stephens III]

Did a little research - the Internet Archive doesn't keep images, although the hotlinks still work:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110703050408/http://austinfilmtools.com/pages/gear_red_one/red_one_workflow_camera.htm

And then there is this OLD version here:
http://www.hd.club.tw/data/attachment/forum/month_0803/20080305_81c03956cf70ad65fbbdTmRPzkI58Kcs.gif