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[Scott Webster]

Too good to be buried in it's original thread http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=904&page=8:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_1174450172.jpg

[Don Woods]

God that is so bitchin.. I love the 300 and the black is so sexy.. Jarred you are one lucky MAN to be with such beautiful ladies..

[Erik Rangel]

God that is so bitchin.. I love the 300 and the black is so sexy.. Jarred you are one lucky MAN to be with such beautiful ladies..
Careful calling Boris (the black one) a lady they both look like they could knock someone out.

[Manfred Lopez]

I wonder if one should get a zoom support for the 300.

[jbeale]

First shot I've seen with a person for scale. With the rods and accessories it would obviously get big but my first impression is how compact the camera itself is.

That looks like a vanilla standard SATA cable, whatever the fancy connector is on the camera. Whenever I handle those cables I get the feeling that they were designed to be installed once and never flexed afterwards; do they hold up to use?

[Alex Boothby]

Can we see a photo with a regular sized human being?

[Jannard]

Can we see a photo with a regular sized human being?

That's a good point. For those of you who don't know... Jarred is 8'8" tall.

Jim

[Don Woods]

Careful calling Boris (the black one) a lady they both look like they could knock someone out.

True... But I don't think anything that beautiful could not be a sexy Russian Vixon..

[Don Woods]

That's a good point. For those of you who don't know... Jarred is 8'8" tall.

Jim

only the last time I saw him I thought he was hitting 9'

[Brook Willard]

That's a good point. For those of you who don't know... Jarred is 8'8" tall.

Jim

That actually made me laugh out loud... Oh dear.

How many photos are you guys snapping a day over there?

And is that lens mount aluminum?

I ask too many questions.

[Jannard]

We hope to have some worthy footage for NAB. But we also have a lot of other things to do and can't shoot every minute. Wish we could. It sure is fun.

Jim

[Brook Willard]

[insert generic half-joke about offering services as a documentarian dork guy]

Ho ho!

[Chris Kenny]

Do you guys have the body design locked down yet? I know a lot of people are wondering what the dimensions are. Scaling off that lens (which I'm assuming is your Cooke S4 65mm), Boris looks about 13" long.

(I know, I know, wait for NAB.)

[Alexander Nikishin]

Jannard, I'll sell my soul to be able to visit the Redquarters! Need a PA? Runner? Janitor? All kidding aside, I'm dead serious!

I just finished a day job at CBS but would give it up in a second to be at RED arghh!

[betty schaefer]

seems like the first red reservation holders will get cnc machined bodies. will that change after a certain number to a casting process or will all 1500 reds be cnc milled?

[Ace]

seems like the first red reservation holders will get cnc machined bodies. will that change after a certain number to a casting process or will all 1500 reds be cnc milled?

Im pretty sure they will be cast.

[Tony Lorentzen]

Am I the only one who thinks it's great seeing the 300mm lens? I guess everyone is hyped about the camera to not notice what a major undertaking is must be to make that lens. Incredible!

[Laco Zamba]

It was already here http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=578&

[Tony Lorentzen]

It was already here http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=578&


Yeah - looks like I missed that one :-)

[Laco Zamba]

But now we see more :-) It's very nice photo.

[Mike the beginner]

The red rail brackets looks like it is made from aluminium?

The brackets are not disimilar from what you see at the top of gearboxes. Same type of rods sliding through bracket type of thing with alen screws holding them secure. This works great in the motor indusrty when adjustment of the screws is only ever done in a major repair situation.

I worry that if the red rails are so made with alen screws securing the plates then one would need to be very careful to avoid overtightening these screws as aluminium threads are very easiliy stripped.

I trust red have thought all of this through already:biggrin:

The batteries look big and heavy, no wonder ,many are looking at just using flash as an alternative in some instances.

Mike the beginner

[Gunleik Groven]

Come home, little baby, come home!

Fantastic!

Gunleik

[Petr Dvorak]

Thanx for pix
Is that eSATA cabel? That red one comming out from both cameras



Too good to be buried in it's original thread http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=904&page=8:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_1174450172.jpg

[Curran Giddens]

It is an SATA cable. I have the same cables. I used them for connecting my internal SATA drives to my Sonnet Tempo 4+4 card.

[Ivan G]

I love the chrome finish. Anyway I can get my red in chrome?

[Chris Gearhart]

Can we see a photo with a regular sized human being?

Yeah, the Red specs must have gone up again. That thing must be three feet long! :biggrin:

[Jarred Land]

you guys are all nuts. :)

[Stuart English]

Yes, that is an e-SATA cable, but the shipping product uses a custom LEMO push lock connector based SATA + power cable.

[Tony Lorentzen]

Jarred - why the sad look on your face?

[Ace]

Um, maybe hes just nervous about dropping 1 of 2 red prototypes in existance lens first? I dont think he looks sad at all! get over it! :D

[Clayton Harper]

Jarred - why the sad look on your face?

I would start to cry if you made me let that thing go. :bleh:

[JD Holloway]

There are still local DP's claiming RED is all vapourware.
I will have to forward these photos to the boys!

Thanks guys

J

[ericyoung]

Nah - that look is saying "the only way you get this camera off me is prying it out of my cold lifeless hands"! :)

[REDHKSC]

That's a good point. For those of you who don't know... Jarred is 8'8" tall.

Jim

8'8" tall. WOW !
8'8" width. WOW WOW !!
8'8" depth. WOW WOW WOW !!!

Oh ! All we need is RED Power with WOW Factors.

Stewart
HKG / CHINA

[Jim Arthurs]

We hope to have some worthy footage for NAB. But we also have a lot of other things to do and can't shoot every minute. Wish we could. It sure is fun.Jim

Challenging and quality footage will speak to the camera's abilities.

The VOLUME of footage on display will speak to the workflow and is equally important.

If at NAB it looks like it was HARD to put the 4K demo of footage together, then that's where the newest crop of critics will roost...

[Michael Schrengohst]

I agree, in addition to the 16'x9' monster screen, RED needs to showcase
the same and other footage on everything from iPods to 60" Plasma screens.
All the critics will be out so I would not limit the RED footage showings to
60 sec blasts on the monster screen.

[jbeale]

I believe that if they show quality footage at NAB, they'll have enough interest to keep the production lines busy for a while! Lots of footage is nice but I don't know how long they've had fully functional prototypes (for example with a live video output, unlike Frankie just last month when they had to monitor at 3 fps: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=11443&postcount=93 )

If they show "challenging" footage like low light or harsh lighting, I bet people will just say the camera is too noisy or it's not handling the highlights well. Unless it's something so extreme that existing cameras could obviously not shoot it, and I'm not sure what that would be.

It would be fun to see A/B comparisons against other cameras, but you know that skeptics will never be convinced until they can oversee such a test themselves. And who can blame them- I'd like to try those tests myself, of course :-).

[Jim Arthurs]

'Challenging" was a poor choice of wording on my part. I mean esthetic and striking, pushing contrast ratios to as close to film dynamic range limits as is possible with the sensor. And all of it very polished and pro; be it nature, sports, or dramatic lighting.

Personally, if you're standing there in the booth watching the demo reel, and it's still spooling new footage that hasn't looped back on itself in 15 minutes, you've proved the point of workflow. I'd even ditch everything done 'til now, milkgirls and all, showing all new.

I'm sure they haven't had prototypes out in the field much yet... but that even helps prove the ease of workflow more if you can put the goods together in the next few weeks. Just my two cents...

[Mark B.]

seems like the first red reservation holders will get cnc machined bodies. will that change after a certain number to a casting process or will all 1500 reds be cnc milled?

There's not much point in milling 100 camera bodies if Red is planning to create a casting mold. Might as well make the mold first so that all the cameras come out identical and reap the casting cost benefits straight away. Then again, maybe it'll be CNC milling for all the cameras since the volume is so small. But I don't expect they'll go half and half on the manufacturing process.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

There's not much point in milling 100 camera bodies if Red is planning to create a casting mold. Might as well make the mold first so that all the cameras come out identical and reap the casting cost benefits straight away. Then again, maybe it'll be CNC milling for all the cameras since the volume is so small. But I don't expect they'll go half and half on the manufacturing process.

I'm hoping all the camera bodies will be machined. ...But that's just me.

[chuck colburn]

There's not much point in milling 100 camera bodies if Red is planning to create a casting mold. Might as well make the mold first so that all the cameras come out identical and reap the casting cost benefits straight away. Then again, maybe it'll be CNC milling for all the cameras since the volume is so small. But I don't expect they'll go half and half on the manufacturing process.

Even if they are cast, ( and I would assume this would be precision diecasting) they will still be CNC'ed, as this is the way to do it. I would also assume (you know where that word can lead) that the nose and the base plate with it's intergrated rod mounting system and any other bits with complex shapes will also be diecast. After all they don't hog Arris or Panaflexes out of solid chunks of aluminum!

[Jannard]

I think everyone should take a swing at building a camera... :-)

Jim

[damonbots]

I think everyone should take a swing at building a camera... :-)

Jim

I'll get right on it!

Now where can I get 15 mil, 200 gallons of coffee, 13 "robots" working 24/7, one giant, and a case of Cubans to get started?

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

Maybe at:

http://red.com/webstore/

not sure though...

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

May I suggest that once the RED project is complete (and only then) that Jim Jannard start a new project on making cars with zero emission - if you think building a 4K camera in a year is a great task, then surely you (Jim) must be the man for the job!

(I just can´t wait for my RED to arrive.... the photo of Jarred and RED is already printed on glossy paper and posted in my office... must sleep, must sleep now...)

[Billy Summers]

I think everyone should take a swing at building a camera... :-)

Jim

...Seriously.

[Brook Willard]

I think everyone should take a swing at building a camera... :-)

Jim

Do I need to make that tired 8K camera joke again?

[Rick Darge]

Wait, I thought the RED could record in 8K no????????

I want my money back like yesterday

[Ace]

A Cast is as good as its mould. As long as the mould is polished and finished with precision, so will the cast be. If a mould is meticulously engineered, the seams should be near invisible. and any imperfections can be polished off anyway. Aluminium is easy to machine. The other thing is the powder coating. This conceals all minute imperfections that happen during the casting process. So the end result should look pretty much the same as a milled piece (without it being steel or whatever)

[Gopher77]

I think everyone should take a swing at building a camera... :-)

Jim

I'm afraid I have a bad slice, the whole team would be spending all their time yelling "fore"

[Jannard]

A Cast is as good as its mould. As long as the mould is polished and finished with precision, so will the cast be. If a mould is meticulously engineered, the seams should be near invisible. and any imperfections can be polished off anyway. Aluminium is easy to machine. The other thing is the powder coating. This conceals all minute imperfections that happen during the casting process. So the end result should look pretty much the same as a milled piece (without it being steel or whatever)

Ace... if you ever decide to move to California, I want to hire you.

Jim

[Shawn Nelson]

Ace... if you ever decide to move to California, I want to hire you.

Jim

Wow, Ace, you've been offered the golden ticket, take it!

[Jarred Land]

heh heh heh.. thats almost good enough reason for a move.

[Ace]

heh heh heh.. thats almost good enough reason for a move.

Almost??

Jim, PM sent.

[Don Woods]

I would in a hart beat..

[Brook Willard]

And in one post, everybody who lives in the LA/Orange area simultaneously deflates. :)

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Wait, I thought the RED could record in 8K no????????

I want my money back like yesterday

Just gaffer tape two of them together. Still much cheaper than all the other 8k crap.

:))

[Sanjin Jukic]

"Traumland Kalifornien! Ich habe gesagt."

- said Arnold Schwarzenegger 30 years ago when he came in California then made a brilliant Hollywood actor career and currently serving as the 38th Governor of California.

[Priyesh P.]

It´s more like this : "Traumland Kalifornien! Habe Ich gesagt."
But it´s a phrase of arnie, so it could "Traumland Kalifornien! Ich habe gesagt", too.

[Sanjin Jukic]

It´s more like this : "Traumland Kalifornien! Habe Ich gesagt."
But it´s a phrase of arnie, so it could "Traumland Kalifornien! Ich habe gesagt", too.


Kalone, you are German and anyway you know better with German language. Arnie is an Austrian>>Styrian>>Styria>>German: Steiermark. The capital city is Graz. By the way I wil go tomorrow in Graz and stay over the weekend to see a couple of Austran films at Diagonale-Festival des Österreichischen Films. Also to meet some of the RED ONE reservation holders from Austria.

[John K]

That's a good point. For those of you who don't know... Jarred is 8'8" tall.

Jim
So what are you saying? That the Red is actually 25% bigger than the picture would suggest?

No wonder he looks so nervous, that camera has a long way to fall!

[John K]

A Cast is as good as its mould. As long as the mould is polished and finished with precision, so will the cast be. If a mould is meticulously engineered, the seams should be near invisible. and any imperfections can be polished off anyway. Aluminium is easy to machine. The other thing is the powder coating. This conceals all minute imperfections that happen during the casting process. So the end result should look pretty much the same as a milled piece (without it being steel or whatever)
It always used to amuse me how Panavision would do all that, then plate the camera body in 24K gold, and then for the final master touch, paint it battleship gray!

I know the reason they did that was simply to reduce interference on their old tube panavids, but boy it had people shaking their heads and muttering among themselves.