Will Scarlet record audio?

[Jack Kelly]

The specs mention nothing about audio. Does anybody know if the Scarlet will record audio? I would assume it'll have dual XLR inputs? Or maybe it wont record audio at all?

[Todd Gilpin]

I see no indications anywhere that this camera includes audio as an option.
Seems strange to me, since the Red ONE and Epic both have audio options. Of the three cameras, the Scarlet seems like the one that audio would be most important. The Epic and Red ONE I can see myself using on shoots where audio would be recorded separately by a recordist. The Scarlet target audience (DVXers and HVXers) depend on recording audio to the camera.

I guess without audio, the Scarlet will make a great second unit camera?

[David Dennis]

I would be a little surprised if Scarlet didn't support audio.

The specifications look like a pretty quick summary that just hits the highlights - I wouldn't be surprised if the audio was just industry standard and so it didn't merit a bullet point.

I'm sure we'll learn more long before we are asked to buy the camera.

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[Gene Crucean]

My company is very guerrilla style so it's almost required by us. But I'm sure if it's not in the spec right now... it will be by launch.

[Bruce Allen]

I say great, given the hassles with Red One audio I'm happy they keep prices low and don't try to do audio.

Just give us a timecode connector and we (or sound recordist) can record to a Sound Devices 702T slung over our shoulder. $2500 - and you'd have something that'd record amazing-quality audio for years (audio is a mature technology IMHO), with real pots, LEDs, etc.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[combatentropy]

Two XLR inputs, please. Full size. Line level, mic level, and phantom power.

[Luis Caffesse]

I would love for someone at the show give us a confirmation one way or the other as to whether or not the Scarlet (as of now) will have on board audio.

The lack of audio specs, the small size of the cam, and the price point all seem to point to no audio capabilities - but that would be an awfully disappointing move.

[Jack Kelly]

Please at least include a digital audio input (I assume a digital audio input could be implemented for less money than a decent analogue stereo pre-amp + ADC) so we can use off-board ADCs whilst still keeping out audio synced.

[ScottPictures]

No Audio!

This is Madness!!

[Andrew Hewlett]

http://www.alesis.com/io2 - $129 - USB connectivity...hook that up to the USB port and you have audio....just an idea! RED could license one of these solutions and have 2 full sized XLRs without compromising body size.

[Thom Steinhoff]

Come on, get real--it has to have audio capabilities--it's a modern digital camera--it has to. It doesn't say the sensor is color, either, but we certainly can assume it is.

Maybe it will be XLR, maybe onboard--but it will definately have audio of some kind--you can count on it.

[brandon herman]

Just give us a timecode connector and we (or sound recordist) can record to a Sound Devices 702T slung over our shoulder. $2500 - and you'd have something that'd record amazing-quality audio for years (audio is a mature technology IMHO), with real pots, LEDs, etc.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

With ALL due respect.........

i'm honestly very happy that you have the resources to drop $3000 on the camera (the current rumor), another $2500 on your audio recorder, pay a sound recordist, and have the time to sync it in post (i realize TC makes it faster, but it's still an extra step).

And I have to carry an extra piece of gear?

IMHO, that doesn't work for most of Scarlet's target audience. I could be wrong.



I'd be happy with one xlr input. Most of what I do is shoot with one shotgun mic anyway, or alternately, one body mic. 'Course, i wouldn't say no to additional options....

[Zac C]

I just texted Fresh DV to ask in the interview.. so just hold on for them

:P

[brandon herman]

http://www.alesis.com/io2 - $129 - USB connectivity...hook that up to the USB port and you have audio....just an idea! RED could license one of these solutions and have 2 full sized XLRs without compromising body size.

a good solution.

hopefully they have - or will make - something a bit smaller than can mount to one of the mounting points on the metal body.

use it when you need it, leave it off when you don't. completely modular.

the only issue is: can Scarlet do this? (I can't see why it wouldn't be able to...)

[Pietro Impagliazzo]

For a very budget-conscious indie, a Scarlet + Fostex FR-2LE could do wonders.

Lack of audio is weird, but I could live with it.

[Hitman Jr]

I see on the brochure what looks like a bnc under the usb ports on the back, if that is an audio jack... I'm a wedding videographer and I really need two. :waaa: I've been waiting for the Scarlet announcement before making a decision about upgrading to some flavor of HD.

[Ameer Azari]

I'd pay more for the audio option, as an indie, I really can't afford a seperate audio deck

[TallGuy]

IMHO, that doesn't work for most of Scarlet's target audience. I could be wrong.

And what exactly makes you believe that Scarlet's target audience inherently single-system?

[paulgandersman]

There is no way this camera will not have audio inputs. Don't worry, its just the prototype and they haven't figured out what audio inputs they can fit in for the price they are charging. But they WILL be there. ...... they HAVE to be.....

[dieseljunkie]

People, relax.

Mark my words: the Scarlet is going to be modulair. $3,000 base price. Basic unit with lens. You want audio? Audio module with 2-XLR inputs/outputs and phantom power? You want handles? Buy the handles. I am pretty convinced that this camera will be completely modulair like the RED. So you can buy everything you want, and it will add to the price.

[romypop]

I asked Graeme this morning and he said "I can't give specifics but Yes Scarlet will have audio.

[Chosei Funahara]

I can make my own audio input.
Can I?

[CreativeGuys]

I would love the option of 2ch of audio (line level or mic level) on xlr OR digital.

Seperate sound is great. But it's a pain in the ass in the middle of a rain storm in India or on the back of a horse. No joke.

I'd accept mini xlr's to keep the scale down.

Digital in would be nice - but that means an external converter (or mixer with digital outs ((Sony)) ) and more crap to carry with you.

I think the point of the Scarlet is awesome quality on the go, less stuff to slow you down.

If you have a sound recordist, you probably have a crew and a RedOne too.

I see other problems with metering and monitoring that suggest an external box may have to be added as an accessory.

Sad but true that all the cool small cams have sucky audio - Red has a chance to get this one right. Fingers crossed.

Remeber - sound is vital - all the pretty pictures in the world won't get an interview with crap sound on air.

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Oh - and if you think I'm just ranting, I'm the guy doing sound off the back of a horse in the old Kata catalogs. And more than once I've shot a whole days worth from horse back hand held. It ain't pretty - that's what I want a scarlet for.

[Adam Palomer]

Since I don't see any mic inputs, I'm going to assume that RED will sell an optional audio acquisition accessory. If that's the case, then it would be nice if it where as compact as possible, perhaps with two XLR inputs in a nice square box a-la Beachtek adapters that can be screwed on to the top or bottom of Scarlet.

http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2005/08/05/the_ins_and_outs_of_the_beachtek_dxa/dxa2sprod.jpg

[Jack Kelly]

Mike (from ProVideoCoalition and HDforIndies) says it'll definitely have audio:



AUDIO: Yes, it’ll have it, but no solid specs as yet. Expect at least 2 channels.


http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/mcurtis/story/red_scarlet_3k_for_3kat_up_to_120fps/

[Daymon Hoffman]

Jim said it will have audio. Its a given. :)

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=196971&postcount=25

[Roberto Lequeux]

I agree that it will probably not have audio, just can't demand anything at $3k for 3k... and the body looks very tiny too, not too small for it not to have audio but personally I am not expecting it.




Jim said it will have audio. Its a given. :)

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=196971&postcount=25

oops, but a good oops!