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This feature alone made me jump off the seat of the chair in my office that actually made some colleagues rushing in to see what happened.
Can you imagine the possibilities? Fantastic!
As for the scarlet WI-FI control: Will the user be able to wirelessly control zoom and focus? Since this is a fixed lens (which for the price of this amazing camera and it sensor is absolutely brilliant!!!) This could be done….
Kind Regards.
From the excitement of it all, I forgot to add, the matte box is not only adorable, but looks incredible and is absolutely a pleasant and charming surprise. I assume Red will make that instead of a third party company? (Judging from the texture of the render…)
WesVasher
04-14-2008, 07:24 PM
I thought the same thing, what if you could control zoom and focus over wifi! What if you could even use a graph editor to design a zoom or focus curve? That is with tangent handles pre-program the ease in and out of a zoom for example. Same goes for the aperture.
Jeremy Hughes
04-14-2008, 08:07 PM
Could you imagine if you combined it with a robotic tripod?
Dylan Reeve
04-14-2008, 08:10 PM
I have a couple of friends who I think will greatly enjoy hacking into the Scarlet.
"I'm in ur camera ruining ur focus!"
Bing Bailey
04-14-2008, 09:42 PM
I'd really like to see a RED Slate app for the iphone that could communicate with RED One and Scarlet so we could enter all the metadata for each shot remotely
Mathew Mackereth
04-14-2008, 09:47 PM
hmm, the ability to pre-configure and use wi-fi to focus pull, remote on etc. could make this an awesome motion control camera...
many possibilities...
Radoslav Karapetkov
04-18-2008, 05:51 PM
Yeah, wi-fi would really help.
Joshua Murray
04-18-2008, 05:54 PM
Could it also be used to wirelessly transmit footage to a computer or hard drive? Wireless monitors too?
Dylan Reeve
04-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Current 802.11 is too unreliable and lacks the bandwidth to support streaming of RED media, but it might be possible to stream some sort of realtime proxy or something.
That is also a good question, however I doubt it could work for direct monitoring since even the 802.11n is limited to transfer only about 200Mbps...
Dylan Reeve
04-18-2008, 06:55 PM
That is also a good question, however I doubt it could work for direct monitoring since even the 802.11n is limited to transfer only about 200Mbps...
And that a maximum speed, in reality speeds greater than 100Mb/s will be unlikely. Certainly not sustained.
yofee
04-18-2008, 09:20 PM
Wireless zoom and focus control plus wireless monitor in really high quality.
Now we're talking. Why not add the control of camera speed, iris and shutter like the one arri got.
:P
Adam Palomer
04-18-2008, 10:54 PM
Doesn't one need an internet connection to control anything over WiFi?
Without an internet connection there is no WiFi and therefore no control. As far as I know, WiFi isn't like a wireless RF link that can exist independently in the field, it needs a network. How is this going to work in remote areas?
Dylan Reeve
04-18-2008, 11:09 PM
An adhoc Wifi network can be established between as few as two devices. It is exactly an RF link that can exist independently - it's exactly the same as any ethernet connection, if you could conceivable connect a number of devices with network cables, you could use Wifi to do the same.
Terry_Lasater
04-18-2008, 11:28 PM
..."I'm in ur camera ruining ur focus!"
That was funny and, yes, I LOL'd. :biggrin:
snodart
04-18-2008, 11:32 PM
Focus and zoom control over WiFi would be fantastic. With the focus ring on the back of the camera, I hope that this is part of the plan. Subtract the cost of a wireless follow focus set-up and the Scarlet is practically free!
Is there any reason that WiFi wouldn't cut it for accurate focus pulling?
Dylan Reeve
04-18-2008, 11:39 PM
Focus and zoom control over WiFi would be fantastic. With the focus ring on the back of the camera, I hope that this is part of the plan. Subtract the cost of a wireless follow focus set-up and the Scarlet is practically free!
Is there any reason that WiFi wouldn't cut it for accurate focus pulling?
You'd need an interface to do it, of course and there could be potential latency issues (although they are fairly minimal). Biggest risk would be the link dropping or something - Wifi can be a bit flakey, especially between mobile units where relative attenuation can vary a lot and where antenna orientation is often sub-optimal.
Could certainly be possible though. Focus pulling with an iPhone I presume?
snodart
04-19-2008, 12:23 AM
The possible latency makes me a hair nervous with focus control. Would a wired option be via usb I wonder?
Oh, and no iPhone for me. I couldn't bring myself to spend that much on a phone... that is unless it could remotely control a 3K camera :biggrin:
Seriously though, a touch screen with focus, zoom, iris, etc controls would be very handy. I hope somebody is out there as we speak typing lines of code.
Thanks for the post BTW.
Dylan Reeve
04-19-2008, 02:32 AM
The possible latency makes me a hair nervous with focus control. Would a wired option be via usb I wonder?
Latency wouldn't be a huge concern, it'd be <20ms generally, but it can spike when channel hopping. Packet loss is maybe a bigger issue. And total link failure would worry me most.
Jason A. Evans
05-05-2008, 05:51 PM
so with wifi can my ipod touch be used as a remote/evf for scarlet? that would be interesting