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Mert Icgoren
09-12-2014, 02:14 PM
Hi all,

I'm getting a battle tested EPIC M DRAGON, I just wanted to ask any of you who bought a battle tested camera from RED before and how your experience has been.


Anything to watch out for ? Did it cause you any more problems than a new RED ? How has the performance been so far ?

thank you in advance for all the help.


best,

Bob Gundu
09-12-2014, 02:32 PM
Virtually brand new like all the other BT items.

Dunkan Wolf
09-12-2014, 04:04 PM
Hi all,

I'm getting a battle tested EPIC M DRAGON, I just wanted to ask any of you who bought a battle tested camera from RED before and how your experience has been.


Anything to watch out for ? Did it cause you any more problems than a new RED ? How has the performance been so far ?

thank you in advance for all the help.


best,

Bought a BT Red One with 850 hours of use in 2012... hasn't failed me once.

Danny Dunlop
09-12-2014, 04:07 PM
BT Red One. Had something like 300 hours on it. Not a scratch in sight. Has served me well thus far.

Donald MJ Anderson
09-12-2014, 04:08 PM
There was reports of some BT Scarlets having cosmetic blemishes recently.

Dunkan Wolf
09-12-2014, 04:08 PM
Hi all,

I'm getting a battle tested EPIC M DRAGON, I just wanted to ask any of you who bought a battle tested camera from RED before and how your experience has been.


Anything to watch out for ? Did it cause you any more problems than a new RED ? How has the performance been so far ?

thank you in advance for all the help.


best,

Bought a BT Red One with 850 hours of operation back in 2012... didn't fail on me once.
It had a few blemishes, but that is to be expected with so many hours of use.
My BT Red One was even more reliable than my brand new Red Epic, which died within 2 weeks haha.

Like with most electronics: If it doesn't fail within the first few days or weeks, it's probably reliable for the next 5 years.

Kemalettin Sert
09-12-2014, 04:14 PM
Where did you find one? That deal was 2 weeks ago and it finished in 24hrs

Dunkan Wolf
09-12-2014, 04:21 PM
Also, all BT items get checked before being sold AFAIK.

Jon Carr
09-12-2014, 04:23 PM
All battle tested cameras have been fully tested by RED, any repairs to bring the camera back to factory specs are done and tested before being sold. Just like buying a new camera, but could have some cosmetic damage for normal use on the field and a few to a lot of hours on clock.

Mark Phelan
09-12-2014, 04:29 PM
BT items are the best deal going. I always check there first because like Bob said, the items typically are indistinguishable from new.

Abiodun Shote
09-12-2014, 06:18 PM
With just 5 hours on this particular batch, this is NEW!

Nick Fury
09-12-2014, 06:29 PM
I received one of this last batch of BT Dragon M's and looked absolutely pristine. That was a great deal. A second camera for me, to complement the Carbon Fiber.

Mark M
09-12-2014, 07:19 PM
Where did you find one? That deal was 2 weeks ago and it finished in 24hrs

Darn, missed it. Would have been very tempting... What did they sell for?

Jake Wilganowski
09-12-2014, 07:21 PM
Waiting on mine to arrive. Price was $10k off new epic dragon M.

Brian Merlen
09-13-2014, 06:18 AM
I am now friends with Jarred on FB, can't afford to miss a deal like this again (also am keeping finance cash on side available from now on lol)

Brett Harrison
09-14-2014, 04:25 AM
I friended Jarred about a week before that went out. Managed to secure a BT Scarlet Dragon - and sold my BT Scarlet MX for the price I purchased it from RED a year and a half ago. This company is a hard act to follow I reckon.

Thanavorakit K.
09-14-2014, 05:11 AM
Has anyone got their BT Dragon? I've been waiting for mine for a week now...

Eric Hines
09-14-2014, 10:00 PM
Has anyone got their BT Dragon? I've been waiting for mine for a week now...

Scarlet or Epic M? I received my Epic M Dragon the week after the post. You are in Laos? That's probably why.

Akin A
09-14-2014, 10:04 PM
How often does RED release BT cams? Once in a blue moon or randomly?

Thanavorakit K.
09-14-2014, 10:09 PM
Scarlet or Epic M? I received my Epic M Dragon the week after the post. You are in Laos? That's probably why.
Epic M Dragon. My Red Squad told me they're still processing it but this has been a week after I paid. Shipping within US BTW. They're probably busy with testing maybe.

Eric Hines
09-14-2014, 10:15 PM
Epic M Dragon. My Red Squad told me they're still processing it but this has been a week after I paid. Shipping within US BTW. They're probably busy with testing maybe.

Well with the new interchangeable OLPF system, it could be possible yours is having one installed if it hasn't shipped yet. They said that cameras shipping after the announcement would come with the new system. If this is a case, it would be worth the extra little wait IMO.

Matt Ryan
09-14-2014, 11:11 PM
How often does RED release BT cams? Once in a blue moon or randomly?

Once maybe every 3 years lol. Not an often occurrence.

Joachim Hoge
09-16-2014, 12:33 AM
We got our Dragon last week. 5 hours on it, and looks brand new. We jumped on this, as we were about to upgrade our other Epic to Dragon, we bought a new Dragon instead. Keeping the upgrade on hold for a bit longer.
Great deal, luckily my co-owner spotted the deal

Ryan Breitenbach
09-18-2014, 08:47 AM
Just got my BT Epic yesterday. Was a little concerned hearing about some cameras being scratched up but mine looked brand new. I was surprised to see new fans top and bottom along with a brand new AC cable. Totally unexpected. Big smiles here.

Jake Wilganowski
09-18-2014, 08:51 AM
Waiting for mine, I told them to install v1 OLPF and they said it would delay the cam a bit. Can't wait, already had 3 epic shoots I could have rented it on. Soon...

Christopher-lee dos Santo
09-23-2014, 09:10 AM
Waiting for mine, I told them to install v1 OLPF and they said it would delay the cam a bit. Can't wait, already had 3 epic shoots I could have rented it on. Soon...

Same here. Also told them to put the Low Light (V1) OLPF in my BT Dragon. Was also told the camera needs to go back onto the production line for them to install the OLPF. Can't wait to get mine. What a great deal. Big thanks to Dan for helping me get the best kit for my needs.

scott devitte
09-23-2014, 10:07 AM
Just talked with Red. I had ordered 2x BTRD, one old olpf, one new. I had them hold shipping until back from IBC. I was hoping they could just keep the cameras and change over to the new modular olpf, since it's so close to October, but because of a legal situation I have to receive them as built before any changes. They are now shipping in next couple of days. It will be interesting to see if the old olpf is the old old olpf or the newer old olpf. Anyway in line for the modular as soon as available. They did indicate that they have caught up on putting the old olpfs into all the BTRDs that requested them.

Brandon J.F.
09-23-2014, 12:08 PM
It will be interesting to see if the old olpf is the old old olpf or the newer old olpf. Anyway in line for the modular as soon as available. They did indicate that they have caught up on putting the old olpfs into all the BTRDs that requested them.

I emailed my rep about this. I have a V1 OLPF coming too, and my camera is en route. He said I have the tweaked V1 OLPF and that's all they sell now. The original V1 is discontinued.

Christopher-lee dos Santo
09-23-2014, 03:01 PM
I emailed my rep about this. I have a V1 OLPF coming too, and my camera is en route. He said I have the tweaked V1 OLPF and that's all they sell now. The original V1 is discontinued. That's good to know. Nice.

Eric Hines
09-24-2014, 10:38 PM
I guess this should go without saying, but make sure you guys check the firmware and update it. My firmware version was titled "For Development Use Only!" haha. My images were really noisy and I didn't know why. I believe that was the cause. Looking great now!

Christopher-lee dos Santo
09-25-2014, 03:16 PM
I guess this should go without saying, but make sure you guys check the firmware and update it. My firmware version was titled "For Development Use Only!" haha. My images were really noisy and I didn't know why. I believe that was the cause. Looking great now!

Thanks for the heads up. Will keep this in mind when mine arrives.

Curt Pair
09-25-2014, 08:03 PM
I bought one too! It looked brand new and had LESS hours on it than advertised... 3.4! It's incredible!

Brian Merlen
09-25-2014, 09:16 PM
wish i had seen that deal!

Abiodun Shote
10-04-2014, 03:57 AM
Just received mine, had less than the hours advertised and like Curt said, its absolutely new and the firmware came updated with the latest version.

Christopher-lee dos Santo
10-04-2014, 12:48 PM
Mine is currently in transit. Should arrive this week. Will post my findings here.

Jake Wilganowski
10-04-2014, 01:15 PM
Mine looks new too

Brandon J.F.
10-04-2014, 07:13 PM
Mine looks and smells brand new. 4 hours on the clock... Amazing deal.

Lauri Hakala
10-06-2014, 10:20 AM
Just received our dragon and it looks like brand new! Turned it on for the first time and cannot see the menus on our tv logic vfm-056W monitor. We don't have the touch screen, only the side handle. How do one turn the menus on without the touch screen? Thanks.

Marcos Montenegro
10-06-2014, 10:30 AM
Received mine. Awesome deal. Looks new, 4.5 hrs.

Lauri Kettunen
10-06-2014, 10:31 AM
How do one turn the menus on without the touch screen? Thanks.

What about trying to reload the firmware? That returns the camera to default settings. Still, it might be the default is not to send the menus to the HDMI output.

Christopher-lee dos Santo
10-06-2014, 10:35 AM
Just received our dragon and it looks like brand new! Turned it on for the first time and cannot see the menus on our tv logic vfm-056W monitor. We don't have the touch screen, only the side handle. How do one turn the menus on without the touch screen? Thanks.

Lauri, I am afraid you may need a REDmote. Read this thread for more info. I think there was a solution in there -- http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...Red-LCD-or-EVF (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?67366-Is-it-possible-to-use-Scarlet-EPIC-without-any-Red-LCD-or-EVF)

Hope you can get access to the menus man.

Dan Kanes
10-06-2014, 10:55 AM
Could also borrow a Red Touch to turn menus on for your LCD...

Lauri Hakala
10-06-2014, 11:40 AM
Thanks guys for the help, will check out if someone nearby has a touch screen or redmote to borrow. Also sent a pm to red regarding this issue.

Ulf Krentz
10-06-2014, 12:24 PM
Lauri,

There are a couple of force presets available on RED.com as part of the DSMC toolkit. HTH


Cheers

Ulf

Paul Shin
10-06-2014, 12:32 PM
Just received our dragon and it looks like brand new! Turned it on for the first time and cannot see the menus on our tv logic vfm-056W monitor. We don't have the touch screen, only the side handle. How do one turn the menus on without the touch screen? Thanks.


The DSMC Toolkit contains preset files that allow you to force display menus HDSDI or HDMI. Just follow the instructions in the readme.txt file to load preset files to force display menus HDSDI or HDMI. I think it's an either/or option and you can only display menus through one output at a time, but that should be enough to make the camera usable.

DSMC Toolkit - https://www.red.com/downloads?category=Other&release=final

Lauri Hakala
10-06-2014, 10:56 PM
The DSMC Toolkit contains preset files that allow you to force display menus HDSDI or HDMI. Just follow the instructions in the readme.txt file to load preset files to force display menus HDSDI or HDMI. I think it's an either/or option and you can only display menus through one output at a time, but that should be enough to make the camera usable.

DSMC Toolkit - https://www.red.com/downloads?category=Other&release=final

Thanks again, will try that today!

Phil Arntz
10-06-2014, 11:40 PM
Quick heads up: Like everyone said, the BT Epics are like new. Mine has 4 hours on it and it feels, looks and smells brand new!

Lauri Hakala
10-07-2014, 01:05 AM
Paul and Ulf, using the enable_menus preset from the dsmc toolkit worked! Thanks guys!

Thomas Stockwell
10-08-2014, 02:10 PM
Hey all.

Just picked up my BT Epic Dragon with a total of 6 hours!
Many more hours to come!

Jake Wilganowski
10-08-2014, 06:34 PM
It's a badass cam, lovin mine so far.

Christopher-lee dos Santo
10-10-2014, 04:55 PM
Mine arrived. 4.5 hrs of usage. Not a scratch on it. Already on a feature shoot.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/Crash_Nemesis/86D465F0-BE69-4D73-8962-97C29772C6AE_zpsncitbr1r.jpg (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/Crash_Nemesis/media/86D465F0-BE69-4D73-8962-97C29772C6AE_zpsncitbr1r.jpg.html)

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/Crash_Nemesis/DCD67FFB-BEB1-4A8D-A06D-4DE5FAD2C3A6_zps7cdl9jxo.jpg (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/Crash_Nemesis/media/DCD67FFB-BEB1-4A8D-A06D-4DE5FAD2C3A6_zps7cdl9jxo.jpg.html)

Lee Saxon
10-10-2014, 05:02 PM
I can't believe there are BT Dragons available already!

Donald MJ Anderson
10-10-2014, 05:09 PM
Mine arrived. 4.5 hrs of usage. Not a scratch on it. Already on a feature shoot.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/Crash_Nemesis/86D465F0-BE69-4D73-8962-97C29772C6AE_zpsncitbr1r.jpg (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/Crash_Nemesis/media/86D465F0-BE69-4D73-8962-97C29772C6AE_zpsncitbr1r.jpg.html)

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/Crash_Nemesis/DCD67FFB-BEB1-4A8D-A06D-4DE5FAD2C3A6_zps7cdl9jxo.jpg (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/Crash_Nemesis/media/DCD67FFB-BEB1-4A8D-A06D-4DE5FAD2C3A6_zps7cdl9jxo.jpg.html)

Christopher how are the Secced heads? Which one is that?

Lee Saxon
10-10-2014, 05:17 PM
Thanks guys for the help, will check out if someone nearby has a touch screen or redmote to borrow. Also sent a pm to red regarding this issue.


As a last resort, they're affordable on lensrentals - http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/video/cameras/red/components/red-dsmc-redmote-for-scarlet-epic

Lauri Hakala
10-11-2014, 12:41 AM
Donald,

What brand are your cage and handle components? Thanks.

Roy Rossovich
10-11-2014, 03:18 AM
Can't wait, my BT Dragon Lands on Friday!

Mark M
10-16-2014, 11:04 PM
Got in line for cancelled orders a few weeks ago and lo and behold my name popped up last week!

Was told mine will ship with the interchangeable OLPF and though I requested the low-light one, apparently its the highlight version which they said ships with all new Dragons.

But can't complain since its interchangeable and the OLPFs are so darn inexpensive.

Roy Rossovich
10-17-2014, 03:35 AM
Got my BT 3007 this morning. 7 hours of use, looks to be in great shape. non-changeable OLPF unfortunately. Super excited to get this thing on my M15 and see what can be done.

Phil Arntz
10-17-2014, 03:21 PM
LOVE mine!

http://i59.tinypic.com/pu0m.jpg

3.5 hours.

Mert Icgoren
10-18-2014, 03:08 PM
Hey guys,

picked up the BT Dragon, and it's in perfect condition. Not a scratch ! it had about 4.5 hours on it..

Thank you for all your input so far !

Eric Hines
10-18-2014, 05:00 PM
Mine went from 4.5 hours to over 30 very quickly : )

http://i.imgur.com/soyEG3Kl.jpg