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twotallmen
04-24-2008, 06:09 AM
I'm confused - I wasn't at Nab so I'm not absolutely sure what this thing does (will do).
Does it take the AF Cards that the Red has shot on and play the footage out through a BNC carrying HD/SDI with embedded audio and time code (behaving like a VTR) - It looks as though it has a disk drive of some sort. Is this Red's solution to getting R3d into an editable HD format?
Stuart English
04-24-2008, 08:29 AM
I'm confused - I wasn't at NAB so I'm not absolutely sure what this thing does (will do).
Does it take the CF Cards that the Red has shot on and play the footage out through a BNC carrying HD/SDI with embedded audio and time code (behaving like a VTR) - It looks as though it has a disk drive of some sort. Is this Red's solution to getting R3d into an editable HD format?
Yes, it could work that way, yes that would be a good application. The optical disc aspect of this is it can accept RED's new delivery codec on a DVD-R.
That codec can put 2 hours of 4K compressed footage plus audio on a DVD-R disk (encoded in a RED software application); RED-RAY is the playback device.
Radoslav Karapetkov
04-24-2008, 09:18 AM
What about DVD+R? :)
Wow, that's gotta be some real badass codec.
Are we talking DVD5 or DVD9 volumes here?
Dustin Cross
04-24-2008, 09:28 AM
Stuart,
Why not use Bluray discs?
Dusty
Noah Kadner
04-24-2008, 10:06 AM
Stuart,
Why not use Bluray discs?
Dusty
Maybe the thought was they are not really necessary with good compression. Also- not too many people have a BluRay burner. Everyone has a DVD-R and many have DVD-DL.
Noah
Gunleik Groven
04-24-2008, 10:10 AM
... ah... and who owns the Blueray lisence... (No G, don't say the S-word)
Noah Kadner
04-24-2008, 10:28 AM
Well yeah there's that too...
Noah
Craig Ryan
04-27-2008, 12:23 AM
So then you encode in a new RED program, and you can burn from this program to a regular DVD burner? Or do you burn using the RED Ray drive?
Christoffer Glans
04-27-2008, 02:52 AM
That codec can put 2 hours of 4K compressed footage plus audio on a DVD-R disk (encoded in a RED software application); RED-RAY is the playback device.
Does that mean that it compress the already compressed Redcode Raw files, or that it just burns the files so it can be used as a backup? It sounds like the foremost. Is the workflow if it's used as a backup device; reading the compressed files on the DVD-R and transfer it to the uncompressed Redcode Raw files to a harddrive.
Is the compression destructive for the redcode files? Is there a quality loss?
Robin Balas
04-27-2008, 01:47 PM
Does that mean that it compress the already compressed Redcode Raw files, or that it just burns the files so it can be used as a backup? It sounds like the foremost. Is the workflow if it's used as a backup device; reading the compressed files on the DVD-R and transfer it to the uncompressed Redcode Raw files to a harddrive.
Is the compression destructive for the redcode files? Is there a quality loss?
Yes it will have to compress a lot more and it will not be a backup.
The compression will be destructive and there will be a quality loss, how visible it will be is impossible to state at this point in time.
Personally I will be surprised if it doesn't look good on screen though. if not there will be no demand for this product, and Mr.Jannard doesn't seem to be a man who waste time and money on dud products.
I am thinking of it as a end user/cinema delivery system, but we know nothing at this point yet.:biggrin: