New Timelapse

[Tom Lowe]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8814/borregohy7.jpg (http://www.digitallions.org/Borrego.wmv)

Right-click image and save. WMV 720p - 28megs.

Nothing too special; just two quick timelapses I shot in Anza Borrego Wednesday night. I've been messing around with AE to do virtual pans, until I can get my motion rig built and working.

[CVB]

That looks awesome Tom. I love that star shot. Very cool. Here's one my brother and I did awhile back on our first moco system...
http://www.viewfactorstudios.com/images/timelapse.jpg (http://www.viewfactorstudios.com/timelapse.mov)
Right-click and save -~5Megs

[damonbots]

Outstanding, guys!

I'm jonesing big time now.

Moco + REDONE = drooooooooool

[Sean]

Beautiful footage, Tom. What are you using to get these shots (until your Red arrives)?

[Corrado Silveri]

Great images....

[Tom Lowe]

Beautiful footage, Tom. What are you using to get these shots (until your Red arrives)?

I use a Canon 350D with a modded TC-80N3 intervalometer. It works great. I don't know if Red is even going to be able to shoot bulb-exposure night stuff, but once I get a RED, then yeah, I will probably shoot most of my daylight and sunset stuff with it.

CVB, so basically that moco rig does pan and tilt? Does it sync to shutter for long-exposure night stuff?

[Petr Dvorak]

great

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Nice stuff, Tom. The night time lapse is perfect. I liked the virtual panning with the other one, although the pan seemed to travel a bit fast... That's entirely subjective though and I suppose you wanted to cover a certain amount of area in the time span you had.. But like I said, great stuff.

[Hannes Isaksson]

Beautiful! Really.

Tom, whas it just a pan over a larger image? Looked great.

Here is mine I did for a short.
http://hannesisaksson.se/faller/test-scen-6-web.mov
Not really a timelaps but I did it with my digital SLR (4 fps)

[Tom Lowe]

Whoa, that's a trippy shot, Judo. DLSR movies have a lot of potential. Someone posted a music video here a while back shot entirely on a Nikon D80, I believe. It has a haunting look, almost like a moving postcard.

That "pan" shot is just moving a smaller 720p frame across a 2K image.

[roryhinds]

Here a video I did using a mix of DSLR stills and video

http://www.whatismine.com/html/showreel/reel_musicvideos_Creel.htm

Can't wait to get my RED and enjoy the latitude :-)

[CVB]

CVB, so basically that moco rig does pan and tilt? Does it sync to shutter for long-exposure night stuff?

We are running Pan and Tilt but also have support for ZFI as well as an additional two axis (roll and dolly). We have an output that interfaces to a camera thru serial and digital I/O so we can control the frame rate and exposure on DSLRs and other (most likely RED) cameras.

[JVB]

That test shot was done back in 2005...here is another one we did. crappy footage bare with us.
http://viewfactorstudios.com/images/multiperson.jpg (http://viewfactorstudios.com/muliperson.mov)
Right click and save as..

[Tom Lowe]

We are running Pan and Tilt but also have support for ZFI as well as an additional two axis (roll and dolly). We have an output that interfaces to a camera thru serial and digital I/O so we can control the frame rate and exposure on DSLRs and other (most likely RED) cameras.

Do you have a website or any brochures or anything? I am actually planning to meet with a robotics/motion control company in Irvine on Monday to start designing my system, probably using Parker components, but if you guys already have something, no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

[CVB]

Tom, our website is going live just before NAB. We will have full specs/brochures, images, demos clips, and much more. We have a lot to offer, mainly 5 years of R&D to get our system into something the size of a roll of paper towels.

[Tom Lowe]

will your system control stepper motors and all that, to pull a camera down a dolly, in addition to pan and tilt?

[CVB]

Steppers are for sissys :) We are using brushless motors on everything. Compared to stepper based systems this one is near silent. We do have an axis output that we are planning on suppling an additional amplifier for (so you can hook up a brush/brushless motor and an encoder). It could easily be used for dolly. Steppers are fairly easy to drive so we may at some point have a stepper driver as well.

[Tom Lowe]

How much cash are we talking for a 3-axis (pan, tilt, dolly) system? Can you give me a really rough ballpark idea? 3 grand? 5 grand? 10 grand? If not I understand.

I've been looking into using a belt-driven linear actuator for my dolly "track". Maybe a 12 footer, so I can strap it onto my SUV's roof. The carriage on those things can hold a lot of weight.

[CVB]

Retail will be about $15K and there is a NAB special price that will be around $10K. It includes a power supply, input bar, cables and everything else you would need to get going. We estimate that we're somewhere around 1/6 of the cost of the competitors on the market.

[Tom Lowe]

Interesting. What all does that include? I'm having trouble picturing exactly what the product is. I guess once you guys go live on your website it will be more clear. Is it like a tripod with a multi-axis motorized head on it? Then you have to provide the dolly mechanics and all that yourself?

[Moir]

Tom

Beautiful images. Would you mind telling us what shot seetings you used for the star sequence (ie. shutter and interval).

I'm just getting into time lapse with my DSLR. For daytime time lapses, I'm curious to know whether it's best to set the aperture and use auto mode to allow the camera to select shutter, or to go fully manual with constant shutter.

[Michael Schrengohst]

Retail will be about $15K and there is a NAB special price that will be around $10K. It includes a power supply, input bar, cables and everything else you would need to get going. We estimate that we're somewhere around 1/6 of the cost of the competitors on the market.

I will be at NAB and will stop by. Do you take VISA or MasterCard? Can we put a deposit down? How long before delivery?
And will you have vehicle mounts? Just wondering as I do have a fair amount of support equipment already. And the control of DSLR you mentioned?
Will it work with a Nikon D200?
Thanks

[CVB]

Interesting. What all does that include? I'm having trouble picturing exactly what the product is. I guess once you guys go live on your website it will be more clear. Is it like a tripod with a multi-axis motorized head on it? Then you have to provide the dolly mechanics and all that yourself?
Includes everything you need to get started... power supply, cables, pan/tilt input device (AKA PAN TILT BAR), all software on board - web based control panel. We'll have more info up soon. if you search through the archives at dvxuser theres a post from me that has more pics and some older specs.


I will be at NAB and will stop by. Do you take VISA or MasterCard? Can we put a deposit down? How long before delivery?
And will you have vehicle mounts? Just wondering as I do have a fair amount of support equipment already. And the control of DSLR you mentioned?
Will it work with a Nikon D200?
Thanks
We're taking pre-orders at the show (and online) for late Q3 delivery - both of those cards are acceptable. We don't have vehicle mounts because moco is typically for shots that require a stable base to shoot from. Our setup mounts to a standard Mitchel mount tripod. If you are going to use it as a remote head then its a little overkill but I guess the pricing isn't far off of a regular remote head. If there is enough interest I'm sure we can make a vehicle mount (and inexpensively one at that). We will have digital input/output available at the top of the head for triggering switches and such... there are several DSLR triggers available on the market and we will make sure that there is a solution on our head that will work with Canon/Nikon cameras.

Jarred is gonna kill me for guerrilla marketing on the reduser site - at least it in the off topic :)

[Michael Schrengohst]

Not to worry...
We love all the info we can get!

[Tom Lowe]

Tom

Beautiful images. Would you mind telling us what shot seetings you used for the star sequence (ie. shutter and interval).

I'm just getting into time lapse with my DSLR. For daytime time lapses, I'm curious to know whether it's best to set the aperture and use auto mode to allow the camera to select shutter, or to go fully manual with constant shutter.

Moir, you've got to be fully manual at all times, and that includes lens, shutter, and white balance. I learned the hard way, having one of my first really nice timelapses ruined by the camera changing white balance from frame to frame! This is back when I shot JPEG, so the white balance was burned in and I was screwed.

Basically just spend a lot of time getting your bulb exposure time right, check your focus (this may involve using hand-held floodlights to look at the terrain features in the foreground, but typically you are at infinity), then dust off your lens and let 'er rip.

For this Borrego night sequence, I shot at 600iso, f/5, with 1-minute-and-5-second exposures, with 3 second intervals between shots (if the intervals are too long, the sequence will look stuttered). That exposure is too long, though, and my images suffered. The conditions last week were not good for night timelapse -- it was too dark. Anything over 50-second exposure time really burns up the sensor and leaves a lot of noise and aberrations. Keep in mind that you cannot use the night noise reduction feature between shots, because it takes too much time.

Ideal shooting conditions for star timelapse is a 3/4 moon, because it makes the sky glow slightly blue, and you can shoot 400iso with like 40-50 second exposures. If you watch the really cool star timelapse stuff at the end of Baraka, you will see the sky glowing blue in Fricke's sequences.

Here is an example:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/270675575_818a4be5e8.jpg

Note that the rock formation is out of focus, because I had a lot of trouble finding correct focus on my kit lens back then.

I think I might work on a timelapse "checklist" one of these days, and maybe some step-by-step instructions for post, if anyone is interested.

You know, with all the interest RED's timelapse features will generate, maybe Jarred will consider a timelapse forum here. Certainly the HVX got a lot of people excited about timelapse, and I'm sure RED will take it ever farther.

[Tom Lowe]

Includes everything you need to get started... power supply, cables, pan/tilt input device (AKA PAN TILT BAR), all software on board - web based control panel. We'll have more info up soon. if you search through the archives at dvxuser theres a post from me that has more pics and some older specs.

Well, you've got me interested. I guess I really need to see some pics, though, to understand. Do you have the DVXuser links handy, by any chance? :biggrin:

[CVB]

Here you go... I updated a few of the specs as well.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=78446

-Curt

[Curran Giddens]

We're taking pre-orders at the show (and online) for late Q3 delivery - both of those cards are acceptable.

How about Amex? How long will the window be for the discounted price?

[CVB]

Yup, we will take Amex as well. The discounted price will be available from April 15th until April 30th, you won't have to pay everything upfront, we are following Red's lead and asking for a $750 deposit on the pre-order so we can get a handle on the true demand. After that the price goes back up but we can still take pre-orders up until July. And sorry but we don't have any cool titanium V's to give out. Maybe we can swing a free tootsie pop or something.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Maybe we can swing a free tootsie pop or something.

I'm going to hold you to that. :)

[CVB]

I'm a man of my word. :)

[Terry Delahunt]

That "pan" shot is just moving a smaller 720p frame across a 2K image.

Great shots Tom...love the clouds..and because you are panning with them, it really doesn't seem like you are just moving across a 2K image.

[Moir]

I think I might work on a timelapse "checklist" one of these days, and maybe some step-by-step instructions for post, if anyone is interested.

You know, with all the interest RED's timelapse features will generate, maybe Jarred will consider a timelapse forum here. Certainly the HVX got a lot of people excited about timelapse, and I'm sure RED will take it ever farther.

Tom

Many thanks for the information - really useful stuff. I've done a few daytime sequences, but I'm still at the experimenting stage for nightime stuff, and I think you've saved me some wasted time.

I've only shot on very dark, moonless nights so far and I couldn't get a clean image. The best I could manage was ISO800 and bulb exposure of about 1 minute 20 seconds. I was unaware of noise issues for long exposures.

I couldn't focus at all with no light, and just set the lens to infinity. I guess I need to get a faster lens and wait for better conditions.

A time lapse 101 would be great!

[ericyoung]

Yup, we will take Amex as well. The discounted price will be available from April 15th until April 30th, you won't have to pay everything upfront, we are following Red's lead and asking for a $750 deposit on the pre-order so we can get a handle on the true demand. After that the price goes back up but we can still take pre-orders up until July. And sorry but we don't have any cool titanium V's to give out. Maybe we can swing a free tootsie pop or something.

So what's the estimated time between ordering and delivery?

[Tom Lowe]

Tom

Many thanks for the information - really useful stuff. I've done a few daytime sequences, but I'm still at the experimenting stage for nightime stuff, and I think you've saved me some wasted time.

I've only shot on very dark, moonless nights so far and I couldn't get a clean image. The best I could manage was ISO800 and bulb exposure of about 1 minute 20 seconds. I was unaware of noise issues for long exposures.

I couldn't focus at all with no light, and just set the lens to infinity. I guess I need to get a faster lens and wait for better conditions.

A time lapse 101 would be great!

Yeah, trying to shoot under the conditions you described is really difficult.

I'm going to try to put something together for a timelapse primer. All my trial and errors might save someone else the trouble.

[Tom Lowe]

Here is a night timelapse I shot a few months ago. This was really my first success with stars.

http://digitallions.org/night.wmv

[CVB]

Tom, thats awesome work. Its amazing how many planes there are that you hardly notice in real time when you're in the desert.

[Tom Lowe]

Yeah, Joshua Tree is ridiculous! It seems to be right on the flight path to Ontario, LAX John Wayne, etc. The thing that sucks is that you have to wait until about midnight before the plane traffic dies off.... by that time I'm usually about 8 beers into a twelver... :)

[Ace]

Wow! How cool is that..

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Way cool, Tom. I really like the one with all the air traffic - different.

[Tom Lowe]

haha, well it's not like i planned it.

if you guys like my work, PM Jim and tell him to let me and CVB test the timelapse features on RED. :)

[JD Holloway]

bump for tom!

[Jim Arthurs]

Yeah, Joshua Tree is ridiculous! It seems to be right on the flight path to Ontario, LAX John Wayne, etc. The thing that sucks is that you have to wait until about midnight before the plane traffic dies off.... by that time I'm usually about 8 beers into a twelver... :)

Hey Tom, terrific stuff! Can't wait until you fire some shots up on the MOCO head...

Some thoughs for you... when I started shooting timelapse for stock footage in the mid-90's I started out very concerned about air traffic in both day and night footage... then I just decided to heck with it and I started fixing contrails and the like in post. Back then, it was loading a frame into Photoshop, doing fixes, etc. and the issues didn't stop at removing planes, but fixing film exposure hits, dust and dirt removal at a nit-picky level that made me sick.

I'd suggest you just shoot the shots you want at the times you want and fix
it later... those plane streaks will paint out easy. Another thing to try on the night footage is some frame averaging to reduce the high ASA/long exposure time noise. Maybe do a blend over three frames for starters to see how that looks. It will also average out the color shifting and slight exposure bumps you're getting...

[Corrado Silveri]

Great work, Tom. Hats off.

[Tom Lowe]

Another thing to try on the night footage is some frame averaging to reduce the high ASA/long exposure time noise. Maybe do a blend over three frames for starters to see how that looks. It will also average out the color shifting and slight exposure bumps you're getting...

Hmmm.... interesting. How does that work? How do I do the frame averaging thing? Can that be done in PP2 or AE?

Yeah the noise is terrible once the ISO goes over 600 or exposure over 40 seconds or so.

[C.H.Haskell]

Tom, 1st I want to mention that I am really impressed with that starry night shot. I am shooting a Burning Man Doc this summer for the Museum of Outdoor Arts from Denver and I hope I can acquire similar results in the dessert….nice work!

My question is, and sorry if this is redundant but is there any news on the RED ONE being able to do single shot long term exposures? Still a mystery?

RED team, can it be done!!!???

I dont know if this is could be a later firmwire upgrade but I am sure after the release many indie users will desire this (along with overcranking redcode).

Best,

[C.H.Haskell]

CVB

Great shots. The Moco head looks amazing, I am just floored about the endless possibilities. You got my order (when I can afford after RED burns a hole in wallet).

Cheers…

[Tom Lowe]

Tom, 1st I want to mention that I am really impressed with that starry night shot. I am shooting a Burning Man Doc this summer for the Museum of Outdoor Arts from Denver and I hope I can acquire similar results in the dessert….nice work!

My question is, and sorry if this is redundant but is there any news on the RED ONE being able to do single shot long term exposures? Still a mystery?

RED team, can it be done!!!???

I dont know if this is could be a later firmwire upgrade but I am sure after the release many indie users will desire this (along with overcranking redcode).

Best,

As far as I know, there is still no word on that. It seems like maybe not, though.

Dang I should hook up with you guys at burning man. :)

[CVB]

Thanks Haskell. We've got close to 20 units sold now and more everyday. Tom... when we have our beta units in a couple months we should definitely hook up and do some moco shots with someones RED... our 488 won't be ready for awhile.

[Tom Lowe]

Yes for sure. Maybe Gibby would let us shoot with him. He told me some of his first tests are going to be in Big Sur and Northern Cal, so maybe we could link up with him.

I'd love to see if we can match RED live action footage to a DLSR or RED timelapse plate doing the same move. I have some really cool shots like that in mind.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I'm definitely interested to see how such tests work out! One of my plans is to try and match timelapse shot with my Nikon D2Xs (nearly the same frame size / res as RED) with REDCODE 4K.

Initially though, I just have the HVX200 and Nikon to test the Mirus head with, possibly an occasionally rented Varicam or HPX2000. Won't stop me from playing with one if beta units are available. :)

[CVB]

Jeff, since you ordered one you get first dibs on the beta units :) We're going to work out a schedule where you'll get one for a week or so (in a couple months). I had another idea that might be really cool... Have you guys seen those 2.5 GigaPixels mages where they take a thousands of multi-megapixel images and map out a scene section by section to generate a bigger image? (LINK) (http://www.tabloidcolumn.com/worlds-largest-digital-photo.html)I was thinking that since we can trigger the Red we could have our moco head automatically rapidly move the camera while triggering the images... you could do an enormous scene in less than a minute by moving the camera and storing off the 12 megapixel images. You'd probably have to toss the 300mm on there but that might be a cool application.

BTW... The sync of a realtime shot against a timelapse is fairly easy with Mirus... just record the shot in realtime like you want it to look then tell it how long your timelapse is... it will scale the time but the movement will sync when you go to composite the realtime shot.

[T. Glen Phelps]

Curt,

How slow will the Mirus be able to pan/tilt, i.e. how long of a time-lapse will you be able to do while throwing a natural looking pan or tilt move?

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Jeff, since you ordered one you get first dibs on the beta units :) We're going to work out a schedule where you'll get one for a week or so (in a couple months).

Sounds good to me. :)


I had another idea that might be really cool... Have you guys seen those 2.5 GigaPixels mages where they take a thousands of multi-megapixel images and map out a scene section by section to generate a bigger image?

Yeah, the 300mm or other longer zoom might help with this. Although, if you keep the focal distance constant, and combined with the angle of the head and offset of the camera from rotational center... It should be pretty quick to map these shots to the inside of a sphere of corresponding dimensions in a 3D app (building on Jim's concept). That could be nifty as is, or unwrap the spherical image map to a planar projection... Could clear up a lot of the spherical distortion on the focal plane, but out of focus areas or areas that don't coincide with the radial distance of the sphere and focal distance of the camera could see other distortion effects. Hmmm... Could be interesting. Or it could be because I'm really tired tonight and I'm talking out of my arse while half asleep.


BTW... The sync of a realtime shot against a timelapse is fairly easy with Mirus... just record the shot in realtime like you want it to look then tell it how long your timelapse is... it will scale the time but the movement will sync when you go to composite the realtime shot.

Yeehaw...

[CVB]

Well, here's some technical content.... when it encodes the move it records at 120 frames per second and that data is stored off in a database. Before you play it back, that move data is mapped to whatever frame rate you want to use. Then when you do a shot it will trigger the frames on the interval that you give it, say 24 FPS for example. When you want to do a time-lapse shot all you are doing is effectively changing the timebase so the moco system takes that same 24 FPS data and just increases the time between the discrete data points in the shot.

Because the head moves to a position and then triggers the camera it doesn't have to move slowly... it just moves from one data point to another. So you can make a shot as long as you like and move as slowly as you like. This applies to time-lapse only. If you want to have the head continuously move at a very slow rate then thats a different story.

[C.H.Haskell]

Interesting

Tom...or anyone else

You should most definitely meet up with us at Burning Man this year, specially if your in the neighborhood. CVB come on out to Burning Man (link (http://www.burningman.com/)) with your moco and put it to the test in Black Rock city! I wont get my RED until later this year or early next…who knows. Still hanging with the P2 workflow in the meantime.

[Sam Druckerman]

Thanks Haskell. We've got close to 20 units sold now and more everyday. Tom... when we have our beta units in a couple months we should definitely hook up and do some moco shots with someones RED... our 488 won't be ready for awhile.


Hey Curt, when my RED isn't working (earning it's keep ), I'd be into doing some tests... Sounds like fun.

[Jim Arthurs]

Hmmm.... interesting. How does that work? How do I do the frame averaging thing? Can that be done in PP2 or AE?

Yeah the noise is terrible once the ISO goes over 600 or exposure over 40 seconds or so.

Tom, let me dig up some flows I did from years ago in Digital Fusion and engineer them over to After Effects. After looking at your footage carefully I think at least we can get something working that would work to smooth over the color/exposure over the length of your shot. The process basically looks at the average of two to four frames and adjusts any one frame on that baseline average... this is something you'd do on your hero shots along with the plane streak paint out...

There's only been one week in recent history where there has been minimum worry over plane contrails, etc., and the price paid for that clear sky window is just too high...

[Nick Shaw]

when it encodes the move it records at 120 frames per second and that data is stored off in a database ... it just moves from one data point to another.

As I'm based in Europe, I wonder how much of an issue it is that 25 into 120 doesn't go! Might this cause motion stuttering in some instances, or does the software interpolate positions for frame-rates which aren't a factor of 120?

[T. Glen Phelps]

Curt,

What I had in mind was that, during a long exposure shot, the head would actually be in motion (although at the speed of growing grass) in order to produce slight motion blur for a more natural looking pan or tilt when played back at "real time."

[Jim Arthurs]

Have you guys seen those 2.5 GigaPixels mages where they take a thousands of multi-megapixel images and map out a scene section by section to generate a bigger image?

In general, the ability to very quickly cycle through the shots needed to stitch a large spherical or cylindrical panoramic image together is a terrific application for the head. People will buy it for this feature alone if advertised in this way.

The camera isn't on nodal with the head, but that shouldn't matter if the subject distances are reasonably far away from the camera. You could get it nodal for panning, I imagine, just not tilting.

"Thanks" to the RED being 4K, we need to start thinking about enviroment maps needing to be much more massive than they have in the past... I would think a stitch up of RED's 4K images taken around 50mm would be a good trade off between final resolution and speed of the overall cycle.

[Michael Schrengohst]

I have the head on order as well. You guys are blowing my mind with the potential.

[CVB]

CVB come on out to Burning Man (link (http://www.burningman.com/)) with your moco and put it to the test in Black Rock city! Yeh, I have a couple ideas for some burning man contraptions. A couple friends of mine went and from what I've seen there are some interesting people there.


Hey Curt, when my RED isn't working (earning it's keep ), I'd be into doing some tests... Sounds like fun.
Awesome Sam.. If its available in a couple months we might take you up on that.


As I'm based in Europe, I wonder how much of an issue it is that 25 into 120 doesn't go! Might this cause motion stuttering in some instances, or does the software interpolate positions for frame-rates which aren't a factor of 120? Nick, the software generates a vectorized representation of the motion and scales it... so basically yes, it interpolates.


Curt,What I had in mind was that, during a long exposure shot, the head would actually be in motion (although at the speed of growing grass) in order to produce slight motion blur for a more natural looking pan or tilt when played back at "real time."The current setup is set for a speed of about 1 degree per second at its slowest if used in the capacity you are mentioning. That was an arbitrary number we picked so I'm sure there is substantial room for improvement. We'll follow up with that and make sure its dealt with in the production models. Thanks for the questions, it really helps us make sure we get everything right.

[Tom Lowe]

Interesting

Tom...or anyone else

You should most definitely meet up with us at Burning Man this year, specially if your in the neighborhood. CVB come on out to Burning Man (link (http://www.burningman.com/)) with your moco and put it to the test in Black Rock city! I wont get my RED until later this year or early next…who knows. Still hanging with the P2 workflow in the meantime.

Is Burning Man first week of Sept out in the Mojave? I will be out in that area (Utah, Moab, Zion, Arches, AZ, Nevada, Baja, etc) shooting a timelapse short from around Aug 1st through mid September. That might work out!

[CVB]

I think its out at the blackrock desert. I'd love to go if things work out right.

[C.H.Haskell]

I think its out at the blackrock desert. I'd love to go if things work out right.

Fellas, you should really look into it. Black Rock dessert is correct, home of Black rock city which is built once a year and last one week long. 2 hour drive from Reno Nevada and your there...Aug 28th on for a week. Tickets get a little steep at this point in the game but it is WELL worth it.

This is a prime dessert shooting location for both time lapse and or other experiments, not to mention you have the all the sights, sounds, and energy of Burning Man as a backdrop.

If you like building things then this is an engineers paradise in the sense that they have pure freedom to construct what ever their minds can fathom! Every year I meet geniuses from all over the world who come to build some kind of wild installations (ie. a fire breathing robotic dragons 2 stories tall walking the dessert...and much more)

Anyways, I am in pre production for a Doc to be shot out there, feel free to email or contact me for more information, I am currently working out the details of a mobile production vehicle to work out of.

Project pitch was green lighted, now I hope they green light the budget…this could make or break the whole gig but crossing my fingers.

Cheers

[Tom Lowe]

Haskell, good luck. I hope they go for it. Yeah I have lots of friends who have gone to Burning Man and I've been dreaming of going for years, so maybe this year will work out. It could be an interesting addition to my timelapse roadtrip! Actually, maybe I could donate any timelapse stuff I shoot there to your cause, since my timelapse short will strictly be landscape stuff and stars -- strictly no human elements, if I can avoid them.

[C.H.Haskell]

Dont think about it...;) Just add it to your road trip!

[Daniel Reichenbach]

Haskell, good luck. I hope they go for it. Yeah I have lots of friends who have gone to Burning Man and I've been dreaming of going for years, so maybe this year will work out. It could be an interesting addition to my timelapse roadtrip! Actually, maybe I could donate any timelapse stuff I shoot there to your cause, since my timelapse short will strictly be landscape stuff and stars -- strictly no human elements, if I can avoid them.

My plan is, to pick up my RED 222 out of Jims Hand (ok, he don't know about it :biggrin:. I hope, this is somewhere arround August. And as I have a reservation for Curts Miro, perhaps, we could do some pretest in the Mojawe Desert. And meeting Burning Man... Just a thought.

[Daniel Reichenbach]

Sorry for Miro, mean Mirus ;-)