Cooke Optics Announces Red Support for /i Technology

[HD Hildebrand]

Any thoughts on this:

http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/7917.html

[Joel Kaye]

Pretty cool. It notes that support will also be in RED's forthcoming lenses. Cool thing for CG - just one less thing to have to keep manually. Still need lens height recorded. You've still got camera motion to solve for too.

But it shows that RED remain forward thinking and can play well with others. The one thing I continually love about this company is they are obviously geeks out there to make tomorrow's camera today. (Unlike some other companies that dole out proprietary technology at the highest cost and smallest increments *cough*P2*cough*)

[Mike Devlin]

The full press release is on the Cooke site http://www.cookeoptics.com/cooke.nsf/press/red07

It is also nice that Avid is supporting this, since we are an Avid shop.

Now what is a "Red lumina" lens?

[Charles Perkins]

good to hear that the RED prime rumor has been (kind of) confirmed. i wonder how many there will be and how good they will be!

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Excellent!

Any confirmation that RED will be supporting /i with the camera and/or their lenses? I suppose we'll find out at NAB. As joelnet already said, this will be cool for CG. Having actual metadata with lens info could be helpful matching up CG elements later when I don't remember all the details for a particular shot... Not to mention all the other cool uses like shot duplication and whatnot.

[Martin Ludwig]

this is indeed a very good information. Not many people will need it, but it is a very important argument.

[Priyesh P.]

In the cooke press release they´re talking of Red´s lumina and prime lenses which will support the /i technology - sounds to me like a hint that Red - lenses will be outfitted with sensor technolgy - maybe this is part of the mysterious "magic focus assist", the other hint is that there will be two families of lenses.

[Anders Holck]

Whoops.
Btv. Lumina is the plural form of lumen...

[Andrew M.]

Whoops.
Btv. Lumina is the plural form of lumen...

Anders, do you know how to find manufacture webs site for SPF ZMG-6
you mentioned before?

[chuck colburn]

The S4s do not employ traditional, multiple-thread focusing, but rather use a cam system (like that found in Cooke zoom lenses) that moves the optical unit back and forth in the lens casing. (The optical unit is sealed inside the housing and does not rotate or pump.) "The cam system allows for nearly linear focusing; it evens out the disparity of the long distances between focusing points at the close-focus positions and the much smaller distances at the middle-to-infinity end," Zellan notes. "The self-contained optical unit also helps to keep dirt and moisture out of the glass." He attributes much of the series' success to Cooke's chief optical designer, Mark Gerchman, and the expert team of craftsmen who assemble the lenses.

YUM!

[Anders Holck]

Anders, do you know how to find manufacture webs site for SPF ZMG-6
you mentioned before?

Let's not go OT:
I added some info here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1314&page=2

[Holosynthetic]

maybe this is part of the mysterious "magic focus assist", the other hint is that there will be two families of lenses.

If I had to bet I would put my money on the Magic focus assist being Lens independent, so it works with all lenses, and working with the sharpness of contrast levels in the pixels, so if an object has a very sharp falloff in colour then the camera knows its in focus...or thats my guess.

[Joel Kaye]

If I had to bet I would put my money on the Magic focus assist being Lens independent, so it works with all lenses, and working with the sharpness of contrast levels in the pixels, so if an object has a very sharp falloff in colour then the camera knows its in focus...or thats my guess.

Yeah - that's what I've been thinking. When you're grabbing 4K you've got alot of pixels and you should be able to detect the sharpest edges. Now how you indicate that sharpness on a lower rez viewfinder will be very interesting to see. :-) Can't wait for that... gotta see it at NAB.

[donatello b]

Red lumina ??

any connection to elite Illumina or optar Illumina lenses?

[chuck colburn]

Red lumina ??

any connection to elite Illumina or optar Illumina lenses?

You wouldn't think so as they are a 16mm format lens set.
Could be some new group of lenses designed by the same folks though.

[Scott Webster]

Isn't the big news here that Cooke has announced the Red Primes and a brand (Lumen/Lumina) name?

Red Digital Cinema recently added /i Technology to the specification for forthcoming releases of its Red One 4k digital camera and Red lumina and prime lenses.

[donatello b]

" wouldn't think so as they are a 16mm format lens set"

elite makes 35mm, 16mm, HD and a set of digital primes ( single sensor)

optars i believe are only available for 16mm

http://www.slowmotioninc.com/sales/35_lenses.htm

[chuck colburn]

That's true. I thought the Illuminas were only the 16mm series.
My bad.

[Greg M]

This is great news!!!!!!!!!

I assume the Arri LDS Ultra primes work with this too.

[Bruce Allen]

Exciting stuff. I'm looking forward to the NAB announcements even more now - hopefully the "red lumina and prime lenses" statement will become clearer then?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Alexander Nikishin]

Fan*******tastic!

[Ace]

Somone at Cooke might slipped up with that press release! Red primes are fantastic news.

[Corrado Silveri]

Does Anyone have seen (during the past days) the Jim's plane at the Leicester Airport?

[Thom Steinhoff]

Article quotes "Red lumina and prime lenses"

To me that says a "Lumina" (whatever that is, perhaps Red Branding) is not a prime lens, so could change "Zoom" for lumina, and get "Red Zoom and prime lenses."

I don't want to get my hopes up--it could just be describing the Red Zoom + the Red 300mm prime and ending that with a plural essentially saying "on both the Red Zoom and Red 300 prime lenses..."

They may not have slipped anything but the technology of using the lens recoding technology which, in and of itself, is good news.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

To me that says a "Lumina" (whatever that is, perhaps Red Branding) is not a prime lens, so could change "Zoom" for lumina, and get "Red Zoom and prime lenses."

I wonder if RED is going to go to similar product naming conventions to what Oakley has. Hehe... Right now it's all made out of unobtainium though. :matrix:


I don't want to get my hopes up--it could just be describing the Red Zoom + the Red 300mm prime and ending that with a plural essentially saying "on both the Red Zoom and Red 300 prime lenses..."

That's kinda how I took it. But then again, it's a pretty sure bet that we will be seeing more lens options from RED. It's really just a question of when.

[Damien Molineaux]

Who makes the Red lenses ? We know it's not Oakley, and I would think the 14 full time Red employees have their hands full with other stuff. So we can assume the lenses are being sub contracted, and we know Red likes Cooke...

Food for thought,
Damien

[Mark Mannschreck]

...and still no correction on the Cooke Wikipedia page after more than two months

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooke_Optics

[david farland]

... Right now it's all made out of unobtainium though.....

Very funny!

DF

[Mark L. Pederson]

Is there any official word from RED on which RED lenses will support Cooke i Technology? Is it only the primes?