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Mark L. Pederson
06-11-2008, 10:18 PM
WILL SET YOU FREE!
Welcome to RedSpace!
Jim has done a pretty damn good job of hyping this build - so I'll cut to the chase.
I've tested more firmware builds than I can remember. I think I am on the fourth Alpha of Build 16. But this build is really something special.
Seriously impressive.
Rich, noise free blacks "right out of the box." A MUCH easier way to nail the "perfect raw exposure".
I rented a Sony LMD 2450W from Abel and I just LOVE it. It switches seamlessly from 720 while shooting to 1080 on playback.
The 1-2 frame sync offset is gone.
And how cool is it to set one button to take you to RESOLUTION - set another button to take you directly to VARISPEED?
I will post a cool clip or two as soon as I can - need to go get some sleep now - I was on set for 14 hours today - here's a frame from a test with NO LIGHTS - two glow sticks - ISO 1000
number6
06-11-2008, 10:26 PM
Great Scot, Man! Do you know what this means! NO one is safe! NO ONE! If there is moonlight, maybe even just starlight... there's no place to hide.:waaa:
Martin Weiss
06-11-2008, 10:35 PM
And the glow sticks didn't burn out.
Amazing. Thanks for sharing. Sleep tight ;)
patrickortman
06-11-2008, 10:40 PM
That plus the flame shot posted earlier:
Wooooooooooah!
C.H.Haskell
06-11-2008, 10:46 PM
Holy glowsticks batman, this is awesome Mark...thanks for sharing.
Finner
06-11-2008, 10:56 PM
I have a feeling MR. Bloom is more pumped about the future of red and glow sticks then any of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsTasxXuX5M
Zakaree Sandberg
06-11-2008, 11:01 PM
hollllllyyy mother of GOD!!!
i mean.. sure i believed the no noise story but DAMN
martinnoweck
06-11-2008, 11:02 PM
oh, i almost forgot about that ;-)
Mark Mannschreck
06-11-2008, 11:06 PM
I have a feeling MR. Bloom is more pumped about the future of red and glow sticks then any of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsTasxXuX5M
I can't believe he was that into glow sticks back then.
Scott Webster
06-11-2008, 11:08 PM
I have a feeling MR. Bloom is more pumped about the future of red and glow sticks then any of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsTasxXuX5M
It's the link that keeps on giving.
Mike Prevette
06-11-2008, 11:10 PM
Psyched to see such an improvement though. I'm jealous. I'll be shooting a big tungsten green screen in NYC next week, it would be awesome to do some b16 tests on.
congrats red team!
RyanKunkleman
06-11-2008, 11:56 PM
great, people are going to forget how to be cinematographers.
looks promising though. is that camera noise or jpg artifacting, cant quite tell.
Häakon
06-12-2008, 12:16 AM
Really excited to hear about the customizable buttons. That's gonna make life a heck of a lot easier!!
Also super pumped about 1080 playback. That's probably the one feature I'm looking forward to the most.
Glow sticks look really nice for ISO 1000... but I certainly wouldn't call that "no noise in the blacks." Keep in mind as that it's been oversampled considerably from the original frame size (major noise reduction) and it'd be much more noticeable in the moving image. I'd like to see the .R3D or a 4K TIFF...
Jannard
06-12-2008, 12:21 AM
Really excited to hear about the customizable buttons. That's gonna make life a heck of a lot easier!!
Also super pumped about 1080 playback. That's probably the one feature I'm looking forward to the most.
Glow sticks look really nice for ISO 1000... but I certainly wouldn't call that "no noise in the blacks." Keep in mind as that it's been oversampled considerably from the original frame size (major noise reduction) and it'd be much more noticeable in the moving image. I'd like to see the .R3D or a 4K TIFF...
No R3Ds or TIFFs will be posted by the Alpha testers... part of the rules.
Of course there is noise. These are glow-sticks at ISO 1000! It is the amount and quality of noise that has us all excited around here.
Jim
Jason Ing
06-12-2008, 12:29 AM
No R3Ds or TIFFs will be posted by the Alpha testers... part of the rules.
Jim
Interesting rule. To prevent premature hypercriticism?
Exciting shot. Glow sticks only. wow.
Häakon
06-12-2008, 12:31 AM
I can respect the no .TIFF rule, that's cool. I also expect there to be noise at ISO 1000. I just wouldn't call it "rich, noise free blacks 'right out of the box,'" that's all. :-) Perhaps he meant in ISO 320 - but that's not what he showed us.
Anyway, great job with the new improvements... looking forward to the beta!
jimhare
06-12-2008, 12:33 AM
Man that's impressive. If you haven't already, bring the still into Photoshop, look at the channels and blast the levels. You have to push REALLY hard to make it suffer.
Martin Weiss
06-12-2008, 01:55 AM
"rich, noise free blacks 'right out of the box,'"
320 ISO would be right out of the box.
Michael Thornton
06-12-2008, 03:20 AM
Mr. Offhollywood
Can we get some Lens data on that picture?
Thnx
Tek
Manolo S. Navazo
06-12-2008, 04:31 AM
i like to see more, perhaps iso 4000.
iso 1000 looks great to me
Bing Bailey
06-12-2008, 06:43 AM
compared to build 15 that is noise free.
Mark L. Pederson
06-12-2008, 06:48 AM
Mr. Offhollywood
Can we get some Lens data on that picture?
Thnx
Tek
You can call me Mark.
18mm Arri prime - T1.3 wide open w/180 shutter
no additional processing or correction - just a one click export from RedAlert
as Jim said - of course there is noise - but the amount, and quality of the noise even at ISO 1000 is pretty damn impressive to me.
Greg M
06-12-2008, 06:54 AM
You can call me Mark.
I kinda like Mr. Offhollywood.
Álex Montoya
06-12-2008, 07:00 AM
Very impressing.
number6
06-12-2008, 07:04 AM
I kinda like Mr. Offhollywood.
Mr. Off'ollywood 'as a nice ring, too.
Joe Vinson
06-12-2008, 07:05 AM
No R3Ds or TIFFs will be posted by the Alpha testers... part of the rules.
Does that mean "no footage, period," or can the alpha testers post Quicktime clips?
Mark L. Pederson
06-12-2008, 08:02 AM
I kinda like Mr. Offhollywood.
Okay. Works for me.
Dan Hudgins
06-12-2008, 09:54 AM
i like to see more, perhaps iso 4000.
Timed up it still looks good, even from the JPG, here is something like about 4000 time up and about 3000 time up with sat for more red/green.
The blue noise seems lower, maybe? Hope to have TIFF soon to check...
Adjusted for viewing at gamma 2.4 only... Looks better than some film scans I did with low light on 500 Vision.
Emanuel A.
06-12-2008, 10:06 AM
Of course there is noise. These are glow-sticks at ISO 1000! It is the amount and quality of noise that has us all excited around here.
JimNo more, no less.
Emanuel A.
06-12-2008, 10:13 AM
I can respect the no .TIFF rule, that's cool. I also expect there to be noise at ISO 1000. I just wouldn't call it "rich, noise free blacks 'right out of the box,'" that's all. :-) Perhaps he meant in ISO 320 - but that's not what he showed us.
Anyway, great job with the new improvements... looking forward to the beta!No less. :-)