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Anyone plan on renting/purchasing?
04-11-2007, 01:55 PM
I don't see the benefit
Why lug around a raid array that is going to do Max 2K over dual link
When I can shoot close to 3hrs 4k Redcode Raw on camera on 1 Red Drive.
And based on Jims insistence that we wait to see the latest version of Redcode Raw before buying the optical port attachment,
I'm willing to bet that for 90% of us Red code Raw will be the way to go.
To further elaborate, people seemed very worried about workflow options, third party support etc, but deadkrash sums it up "3hrs of 4k Redcode Raw on camera on 1 red drive."
With a release like this, this system may be great for big studio set ups where they can afford to shoot on Viper and get 4:4:4 uncompressed. But for REDinvestors, all your basis seem to be covered, redflash, red drives, raw port etc.
I did read however that you can hook a monitor up to the system when you're done shooting and use it as a HD editing suite.
"The 1 Beyond HD D2D-Max system enables a genuine instant camera to edit workflow, allowing users to instantaneously switch from capture to edit mode, thereby totally by-passing the time consuming process of file transfers or video ingest – a particularly useful tool for example to cut and project dailies. Back in the truck or hotel, users can simply plug in a larger computer monitor and the capture system instantly becomes a full HD editing system. 1 Beyond offers a complete complementary workflow product line including the 1 Beyond HD OctoFlex 8 processor system (rack, tower or portable) and the IntelliRaid mini-drive that will connect directly to any MAC or PC NLE via a standard SCSI connection, All of these products have interchangeable compatible disk bays."
04-12-2007, 11:42 PM
I still want to see RED develop and expand their Redcode line of products. I remember when RED first came out they didn't announce redcode for several months and all I could say was. "Sure everybody they're making a 4k camera, but without a means of storing and playing it back, it's going to be useless!" Well luckily for their sake their brains were in gear and they had that covered as well.
I would love to see further REDCode products. There is no reason a Dual-Link HD-SDI REDCode standalone recorder couldn't be developed and attached to every camera out there. Priced competitive with DVC-Pro recorders and file-based data stands a chance.
Truth be told there are almost no good "middle-ground" compression algorithms in wide use today. You either have to sacrifice extreme quality (H.264, 4:2:2, etc), flexibility (DNxHD) or size (uncompressed). With REDCode or Cineform you can have uncompressed quality at a reasonable size. Reasonable is all I really want.
I was facing this dilema this afternoon when trying to convert a composite for the web. Either it was 10MB or it was 100MB, I couldn't dial it in to about 30 where I wanted it, even at "best" quality.
I agree with you Gavin and I find REDcode to be one of the most exciting features of the RED line up.
What caught my eye about the raid solution was not the product itself, but the popularity increase and attention these types of solutions are getting now. RED is very much ahead of the game so to speak, which is why you get both fans and critics.
A little off T here but since you talked about web compression, I was reading up about www.broadramp.com and saw some of their stuff. They offer playback streamig video services and claim to have some secret algorithm that makes their codec the most efficient in its class and blows all other web compression out of the water.