View Full Version : a few basic questions :)
Brandon Fraley
06-13-2008, 12:58 AM
1. the operating manual says to attach the RED ARM to the camera body using the shorter screw, but the longer screw is far too long to screw into the the RED LCD. is this correct?
2. does it matter which end of the monitor cable you plug into the LCD and camera?
3. can I buy an extension cable for the cradle? I'd like to place the cradle in a backpack i can wear instead of going hand held with the cradle on the body.
more questions probably coming soon ;)
THANKS
Shawn Booth
06-13-2008, 01:22 AM
1.) The long screw does go into the LCD. You rotate the screen on until it stops and then screw the round disk up to the monitor.
2.) I don't think it matters, but I find that connecting the straight end of the cable to the LCD allows more flexibility in arm movement.
3.) You can have one made I'm sure.
Try Hama Ball and Socket Tripod or Monopod Head.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230235707943&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013
On ebay and at stores. It is different from the arm Red is giving and it keeps the monitor close to where you screw it in.
Frank Martin
06-13-2008, 03:41 AM
I read a post that a 10' cable will be introduced shortly. keep your eye out for it in the store
Cüneyt Kaya
06-13-2008, 03:42 AM
its here
http://www.red.com/store/product_detail/158
its here
http://www.red.com/store/product_detail/158
No way the one in the picture is 10 feet long.
I am sure there is one but please Red, stop disrespect us, your customers, the whole Red store is a disgrace.
There is no sufficient description of the items, there is some misleading information in the picture, the Red body only picture is with the CF module, while you have to buy it separately.
I am going to stop here and net get into manufacturing and shipping issues as I already have a name of anti-red while the opposite is true. I just want that things will be done properly.
Eryc Tramonn
06-13-2008, 06:58 AM
No way the one in the picture is 10 feet long.
I am sure there is one but please Red, stop disrespect us, your customers, the whole Red store is a disgrace.
There is no sufficient description of the items, there is some misleading information in the picture, the Red body only picture is with the CF module, while you have to buy it separately.
I am going to stop here and net get into manufacturing and shipping issues as I already have a name of anti-red while the opposite is true. I just want that things will be done properly.
Hahaha. Yeah, watch what you say. :unsure:
Paolo Tinari
06-13-2008, 07:10 AM
No way the one in the picture is 10 feet long.
Bought 6" for steady and 10" for Dykortech and received them already. I assure you they are long as said, if measures are what matters you.
Bought 6" for steady and 10" for Dykortech and received them already. I assure you they are long as said, if measures are what matters you.
I am sure they are long but the picture doesn't look of the actual item. For a company that sell cameras and accessories for thousands of USD for each buyer they should put the picture of the actual item. It doesn't look 10'.
Paolo Tinari
06-13-2008, 07:32 AM
Yeah, i noticed. Putting aside that advertising can be mendaciuos (the 10" is not as sexy as the one showed in the picture...) i think they are just super busy to fix a new item that is on the shelves since a few days. But i'm sure its a matters of seconds and they will fix it.
Thanks Paolo for your calming tones. I need it. I have a full belly on the way Red are marketing their cameras and accessories.
I invested a lot in their cameras and I hate to see that attitude towards the people that fund their adventure.
M Hsu
06-13-2008, 08:01 AM
You guys are talking about the LCD cable. He wants a cable for the cradle so he can put it in his backpack. I'm assuming then that what he actually wants is a long drive cable as well as a long battery cable. The battery cable exists in the form of the battery belt clip at $290. Although with a simple turn around, you could use the 10 foot dc power cable that comes with the power pack. If someone would offer to make those. As far as I know there's not a longer drive cable. Am I wrong? Also, out of curiousity, why is the long screw for the LCD so ridiculously long. Is there a purpose for this? I thought the manual was wrong because it seems very odd when you screw it in like that. I'd been planning on building some kind of quick release.
Paolo Tinari
06-13-2008, 08:10 AM
You guys are talking about the LCD cable.
oops...
Frank Martin
06-13-2008, 08:35 AM
quit your crying and put up your deposit....jim is a little busy trying to change the world then to worry if the 10' cable has the wrong pic........please
quit your crying and put up your deposit....jim is a little busy trying to change the world then to worry if the 10' cable has the wrong pic........please
I put the deposit and paid in full. The problem is that attitude like yours and Red's.... "little busy trying to change the world" will lead us all to nowhere.
The job has to be done right from every aspects in order to get to achievements otherwise China will teach us all a lesson. Which they already do.
Frank Martin
06-13-2008, 09:39 AM
which lesson is that ....rip off american engineering, make the cheapest product to the lowest of acceptable standards.....come on give RED a break. you can be the first to buy the cheap knockoff in a few years and we can see how that works out for you.
Dave Neathery
06-13-2008, 09:52 AM
I put the deposit and paid in full. The problem is that attitude like yours and Red's.... "little busy trying to change the world" will lead us all to nowhere.
The job has to be done right from every aspects in order to get to achievements otherwise China will teach us all a lesson. Which they already do.
When you look at Jim's posts, and some ot the other staff members posts, you notice that they seem to never sleep. Since there are only so many hours in the day, and since they seem to already be using virtually all of them, and since we must all decide on priorities...
I think they have their priorities pretty well in order. They are providing an ever improving product, with continuing free upgrades, and have put significant efforts forward to provide the website. If you want to talk about respecting their customers, how many companies can you name that go as far as Jim and company to provide and care for their customers. Even though, a lot of people seem to give them constant flack. (I am not refering to anyone in particular, but in general, I think they deserve a lot more credit and a lot less flack).
Dave
Frank Martin
06-13-2008, 12:13 PM
lewey, lewey, lewey. You should be ashamed of your high and mighty self...
gayboy, stupid and Neanderthal wow!
tell you what I'll take your reservation and when I pay you we can go on a date maybe even drink out of the same bowl and when were all done I'll let you play with my cavebones
Paolo Tinari
06-13-2008, 12:26 PM
I'm out of here, there's footbal on! A much better and decent place to verbally kick ass!
:bleh:
Not the best time of your supporter life, this, hu? ...see you tuesday :-)
which lesson is that ....rip off american engineering, make the cheapest product to the lowest of acceptable standards.....come on give RED a break. you can be the first to buy the cheap knockoff in a few years and we can see how that works out for you.
Exactly... and that is why I didn't buy from China anything and I do expect a different attitude from USA companies.
AS for the Red team working hard and don't sleep, so do I, and doing so its theirs and my choice and decision. They could have pushed back the launch of the camera and come up with a more complete and "camera ready" product. Not doing so was their decision, if the revolution would have started six month later it wouldn't be a big difference.
M Hsu
06-13-2008, 12:37 PM
please someone tell me where to cheaply and easily have cables made. I don't even know where to buy lemo connectors or the appropriate guage of cables. Vendors, please show us some cheap easy prices for drive cables, battery extensions and lcd extensions.
also, FWIW in my opinion, the store could have a lot more info, like weight of each piece and why you'd want each piece so that those of us coming from other fields know how and why to spend our money. Even a price comparison to industry standard products might make us feel better about a $290 battery belt clip. I think they might move more products or at least help those of us who are buying RED stuff buy the products without having to debate ignorant people on the forum boards about trade policies or the free market economy.
Tim Sutherland
06-13-2008, 12:54 PM
I think i heard somewhere that the drive cable can't be much longer because of power/data rate issues, I could be wrong though. It's not a hard cable to make (don't know myself where to get them, but lemo connectors are deifnately not cheap) , but the question is will you have problems extending the lenght 10X?
Brandon Fraley
06-15-2008, 01:17 AM
thanks guys, a couple more:
1) Does it matter if I leave the batteries on the charger for extended periods of time (overnight or longer)? Can I take them off before they're fully charged?
2) is there a way to view shutter speeds in angles? I'm used to the fractions, but it gets confusing when doing slow motion. It be easier to know that 180 degrees is always 180 no matter how many frames ur shooting.
Thanks
oldphart
06-15-2008, 02:23 AM
I think i heard somewhere that the drive cable can't be much longer because of power/data rate issues, I could be wrong though. It's not a hard cable to make (don't know myself where to get them, but lemo connectors are deifnately not cheap) , but the question is will you have problems extending the lenght 10X?
You will definitely have problems if you try to use too long disk cables. SATA cables can be up to 1 m, eSATA can be 2m, FireWire 400 can be 4.5m, FireWire 800 can be 100m, Ultra-320 SCSI can be 12m, and Fibre Channel can be 50000m. The current CF standard is like ATA, so it is limited to 46cm.
It might be possible to get longer distances by using (very expensive) custom made cables, but it is rarely worthwhile.