View Full Version : what Broadcasters have certified RED?
IAN SUN
06-18-2008, 09:37 AM
If you have direct knowledge of broadcasters (anywhere) that have certified The RED ONE for aquisition, please list.
Alexander Christ
06-18-2008, 09:56 AM
HD suisse in Switzerland.
Rob Gardner
06-18-2008, 10:15 AM
I think as long as the HD 1080 and SD broadcast masters are broadcast legal and the originating camera is considered HD (which Red clearly is), there should be no problem from the network.
IAN SUN
06-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Thanks Alexander.
Any others?
David Birdy
06-18-2008, 10:30 AM
I have interest from many US broadcasters, but I cannot proceed without my camera, (Dam the fence sitters!).
With the release of sweet 16 (16 x 9 1080P) the broadcasters will start to line up!
Dave
Chris Kenny
06-18-2008, 10:38 AM
As a general rule, when broadcasters mention specific tech specs for cameras in their submission guidelines, it's just so they have a justification to reject material that isn't of acceptable quality. If you violate their specs but get high-quality results anyway, they're very unlikely to care. So, for instance, it's not unusual to see a requirement that material must be shot on 3-chip cameras. But this is intended to prevent submissions shot on low-quality consumer gear; they're not going to reject material because it's shot on a Red or a Genesis.
Of course, you're not going to be able to send a hard drive full of Redcode files to most broadcasters anytime soon. You're going to have to process everything down to HD with sensible grading baked in, and probably deliver on one of the popular HD tape formats.
Stephen Williams
06-18-2008, 12:28 PM
HD suisse in Switzerland.
Based on what I have seen on HD Suisse it could have been shot on a PD170 & Uprezzed.
Stephen
laguun
06-18-2008, 12:34 PM
The Red One images are easily better than any european broadcaster requirement.
For SD channels, many formats are used.
For HD channels, be aware that some broadcasters banned S16 film and HDV.
For broadcast-style however, the red workflow is not fast enough for many typical scenarios. We have seen solid use and massive interest regarding red rather from tv-movies, series and docs. However most wanted their red shots to be delivered on HDCAM, as they were not interested on changing (and slowing down) their existing workflows.
Ben Holmes
06-18-2008, 12:41 PM
If you have direct knowledge of broadcasters (anywhere) that have certified The RED ONE for aquisition, please list.
I realise this is not proof of certification - but it could be taken as such, as the BBC have performed more than one test on their own drama series recently.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2008/05/bbc1_to_use_new_red_one_digital_camera.html
This series would not be being shot for the BBC unless it was an approved acquisition format. Can't wait to see it.
Ben
puntociego
06-18-2008, 12:51 PM
Channel Four has athecnical repport where RED is very well mentioned
as their film standards.
www.channel4.com/corporate/4producers/resources/documents/FullTechnicalRequirements.pdf
pablo.basulto@pixelblue.cl
Trevor Meier
06-18-2008, 12:56 PM
I wouldn't call it certification, but our cameras are working on shows destined for SciFi network, ITV, CTV, and a few others... and recently passed a QC by the Germans - feared here for their utmost diligence in finding anything wrong with submissions to their QC process.
If the Red can pass with flying colors in our situation, on Build 15, in a TV shooting environment, it should have no problem meeting any broadcasters standards if treated well.
IAN SUN
06-19-2008, 06:42 AM
Thanks everyone. This is a question asked by producers so it is good to have a direct answer.
Michael Brennan
06-19-2008, 06:51 AM
As I posted a few weeks ago Channel 4HD in UK are the only broadcaster to my knowledge to include it in a standards document.
They have just started HD broadcasting so looked at all the latest cameras.
BBC have tested it for a drama, there is a report on this test in next edition of High Definition Magazine.
Discovery HD conduct their own in house technical evaluation.
Mike Brennan
(I edit the mag)
Noah Kadner
06-19-2008, 07:08 AM
As it's specs on paper are superior to most cameras considered broadcast quality I'd imagine it's ignorance of the camera or insufficient experience/time with footage more than anything. I'd put a 1080p downconvert of properly shot RED footage against any 1080 native acquisition any day of the week.
-Noah
ratioman
06-19-2008, 04:02 PM
I'm shooting a show called 'Sanctuary' for Sci Fi using 3 Reds.