New Red Alert Batch processing?

[Peter McAuley]

Is there any provisions for batch processing clips directly in the new Red Alert?

[Graeme Nattress]

Not in RA! itself, but there's REDline, the companion command line app, and tools in RA! that help you use it.

Nice to see you posting here Peter!

Graeme

[Peter McAuley]

Is redline currently enabled in the the new Red Alert. Seems to me I saw that it wasn't yet enabled. Congrats, I heard recently that you and Wendy have a new addition to the family. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out a tapeless workflow using DPX and our inferno. We also just got Notch hooked up with a new Pablo and media engines from Quantel. It's all fun., just wish there was some documentation, I know a lot of post people feeling the pain from production whose only job is to shoot, now what.

Cheers
Peter

[Graeme Nattress]

It's being worked on now.

Graeme

[dino g]

what is the ETA?

[Sebastian Cramer]

Is there any documentation on REDline? Is is a separate tool or is it implemented in RED Alert. Sorry, if this occurs as a stupid question... But I haven't stumbled into REDline so far.

Thanks,
Sebastian

[Michael Bach]

Peter,

We use Redline (B15) for all of our transfers to Pablo and Inferno....by far the most efficient method. You can also generate H264 which is easily imported into Avid. The commands are easy to incorporate into scripts.

Have you got the Q Sam I/F? You should be able to process from redline directly to the Gene pool storage if so.

Cheers

Michael

[Michael Bach]

Included in the redline download is all that you need to learn the command structure. There is a help file. You will need to learn how to write scripts tho.

[Paul Rosckes]

Included in the redline download is all that you need to learn the command structure. There is a help file. You will need to learn how to write scripts tho.

Exactly WHERE is this help file located? I don't see one after installing REDAlert. Also, I don't see any separate "redline download" on the support site. It looks like it only comes bundled with REDAlert.

Thanks,
Paul

[Chris Parker]

is there plans to make a GUI for Redline?

[Rainer Fritz]

Exactly WHERE is this help file located? I don't see one after installing REDAlert. Also, I don't see any separate "redline download" on the support site. It looks like it only comes bundled with REDAlert.

Thanks,
Paul

open the terminal application and type redline in and hit enter....

[Dustin Cross]

Here is a link to the post I did about using Redline to batch convert all the .r3d files in a folder:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=218480&postcount=3

One thing I would change is the */*.R3D to */*001.R3D so it only looks at the first R3D file.


Just typing redline in your Terminal window will explain all the Redline settings.


Here are a couple other Redline scripts I have posted about.

Batch creating Proxy files:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=237605&postcount=3

Here is one where I show how to add the audio to your rendered files:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14226



Here is a newer version that deletes the video only files after the audio and video are combined.

for FILE in $(find . -name *_001.R3D 2>&1 | awk -F "_001.R3D" '{print $1}'); do redline -i `echo $FILE"_001.R3D"` -w 11 --resizeX 1920 --resizeY 1080 --fit 2 --QTcodec 0 --useMeta -G 1 -D 100 --NR 100 -T 1.1 -C .5 -o $FILE"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" ; echo "combining audio and video for $FILE" ; /usr/local/bin/muxmovie $FILE"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" -track "Video Track" $FILE"_P.mov" -track "Sound Track" -track "Timecode Track 1" -track "Timecode Track 2" -self-contained -o $FILE"_AV.mov" ; echo "Cleaning up" ; rm -rf $FILE"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" ; echo "Finished with $FILE" ; done

Here is the version where I was having it just make an Audio files for the Sound Guy.

for FILE in $(ls */*001.R3D | awk -F "_001.R3D" '{print $1}'); do /usr/local/bin/muxmovie $FILE"_P.mov" -track "Sound Track" -track "Timecode Track 1" -track "Timecode Track 2" -self-contained -o $FILE"_AUDIO.mov" ; echo "Finished with $FILE" ; done


Here is a new script I just wrote for some friends in Hawaii:

clear ; echo -n "Where are your R3D files located: " ; read -e R3DPATH ; echo " " ; echo -n "Where to render files: " ; read -e OUTPATH ; echo " " ; echo -n "put your Redline parameters here: " ; read -e REDLINE_PARAMETERS ; echo " " ; for FILE in $(find $R3DPATH -name *_001.R3D 2>&1) ; do NAME_PATH=`echo $FILE | awk -F "_001.R3D" '{print $1}'` ; NAME=`echo $NAME_PATH | awk -F\/ '{print $NF}' | awk -F. '{print $1}'` ; echo "rendering $NAME" ; redline -i `echo $NAME_PATH"_001.R3D"` $REDLINE_PARAMETERS -o $OUTPATH/$NAME"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" ; echo " "; echo "combining audio and video for $NAME" ; /usr/local/bin/muxmovie $OUTPATH/$NAME"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" -track "Video Track" $NAME_PATH"_P.mov" -track "Sound Track" -track "Timecode Track 1" -track "Timecode Track 2" -self-contained -o $OUTPATH/$NAME"_AV.mov" ; echo " " ; echo "Cleaning up $NAME" ; rm -rf $OUTPATH/$NAME"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" ; echo " " ; echo "Finished with $FILE" ; echo " " ; done

You don't need to edit anything in this script.

This script batch renders via redline and then uses muxmovie to combine audio from you proxy with the video from the newly renderd file. This script would need to be modified if you don't need audio. The nice thing about this script is that you don't need to edit the script like the previous ones.


When you run it, it will ask where your R3D files are located. Type (or paste) in the directory path to the files you want to render. It will look in EVERY folder below this path. So if you tell it /Volumes it will find every R3D on your computer.

Next it will ask where you want your rendered files to be. Type (or paste) the directory path of where you want the render files to go. It will put all the files here.

Next it will ask what Redline parameters you want to use. Put anything you want except -o as that is already in there. So this should look something like

-w 11 --resizeX 1920 --resizeY 1080 --fit 2 --QTcodec 0 --useMeta -G 1 -D 100 --NR 100 -T 1.1 -C .5

Now it will render all your files.

Be careful with this script. The guys in Hawaii love it, but if you do not fill in the blanks and just hit return three times it will delete most of the files in your users home director.


This should be enough to get you started with using redline and batch rendering. Redline is a major part of my workflow. As soon as new footage gets in, we batch render everything to 1080p Prorez using redline. Then we edit the Prorez. For most project this is all they need.

I have created all of these so you just copy and paste them in Terminal. You could make these actual shell scripts, but I have been too lazy.

I have not modified these script to use a couple of the new features in the new Redline, but they work just fine with the new Redline anyway.

Let me know if you have any other questions about what these scripts are doing or modifying them to meet your specific needs.


Mahalo,
Dusty

[Dustin Cross]

is there plans to make a GUI for Redline?

The GUI for redline is Red Alert. The whole reason for having Redline is so you don't need a GUI.


Mahalo,
Dusty

[Rainer Fritz]

Hi Dusty !

FCP/Crimson gives you a Redcine XML and Avid will put it out in a few weeks. So what if I wan't to make the render of that in redline? I prefer redline also. So I make with the used clips of the offline edit the onelight in Redalert, that the colorsettings should be there in the RSX files. Do you have an idea to make a script?

thx
rainer

[Dustin Cross]

Rainer,

I don't know of a way to get Redline to render Redcine color corrections. I think the best workflow is to batch render all your footage using Redline, then use Crimson to round trip your edit to Redcine and only render what you actually need in Redcine.

If Redcine starts creating .rsx files like Red Alert does, then you could tell the new Redline to use those settings.

If that happens I think Ian would modify Crimson to take advantage of it.


Mahalo,
Dusty

[Rainer Fritz]

I mean following workflow:

I edit in fcp from the offline files. Then I export a XML. I use crimson to get the Redcine XML. I do the onelight of the used R3Ds in Redalert and get then a RSX file from each. Now you need a script which works down the RedcineXML and renders it in redline with the color settings of the RSX files...

do you got me ?

thx
rainer

[Cüneyt Kaya]

I mean following workflow:

I edit in fcp from the offline files. Then I export a XML. I use crimson to get the Redcine XML. I do the onelight of the used R3Ds in Redalert and get then a RSX file from each. Now you need a script which works down the RedcineXML and renders it in redline with the color settings of the RSX files...

do you got me ?

thx
rainer

you hate redcine, dont you? :)

[Rainer Fritz]

:) I love redline, and I love Redalert, as since a few days I love Automator Actions also a lot.... can't tell you whats up if the SDK will be there....

greets to berlin...

P.S.: bin von 09. bis 13. Juli in der Stadt, mal berlin erkunden... :)

lg
rainer

[Dustin Cross]

Rainer,

The problem is Red Alert can't open the Redcine XML file Crimson creates. So you would need a future version of Redcine that creates .rsx files.


Sorry,
Dusty

[lib]

Here is a new script I just wrote for some friends in Hawaii:

clear ; echo -n "Where are your R3D files located: " ; read -e R3DPATH ; echo " " ; echo -n "Where to render files: " ; read -e OUTPATH ; echo " " ; echo -n "put your Redline parameters here: " ; read -e REDLINE_PARAMETERS ; echo " " ; for FILE in $(find $R3DPATH -name *_001.R3D 2>&1) ; do NAME_PATH=`echo $FILE | awk -F "_001.R3D" '{print $1}'` ; NAME=`echo $NAME_PATH | awk -F\/ '{print $NF}' | awk -F. '{print $1}'` ; echo "rendering $NAME" ; redline -i `echo $NAME_PATH"_001.R3D"` $REDLINE_PARAMETERS -o $OUTPATH/$NAME"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" ; echo " "; echo "combining audio and video for $NAME" ; /usr/local/bin/muxmovie $OUTPATH/$NAME"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" -track "Video Track" $NAME_PATH"_P.mov" -track "Sound Track" -track "Timecode Track 1" -track "Timecode Track 2" -self-contained -o $OUTPATH/$NAME"_AV.mov" ; echo " " ; echo "Cleaning up $NAME" ; rm -rf $OUTPATH/$NAME"_VIDEO_ONLY.mov" ; echo " " ; echo "Finished with $FILE" ; echo " " ; done

Thanks for this script, it is great, the only thing is when I render my prores files it limits all their durations to 1min 05secs. Do you have any idea why this is happening. thanks

[Mark L. Pederson]

You all should take a quick peak at REDrender in Automator - the new RA automatically installs this for you -

You will notice that you can choose a "Look source" -

And you will also notice that you can use RSX In/Out Points -

I wonder how long before some figures out that they can just ....:devil:

[Rainer Fritz]

I rendered today DPXs out with the Redrender Action. I set no In and Out points in Redalert, and the Action/Render was hanging at the 179th frame. Tried another clip, the same. Was Build 16 footage. With Redline and Redalert it was ok......

[Deanan]

It's a bug with Automator. It's currently fixed for the next release (which isn't finished yet). If you need an intermediate build, send me an email.

[Rainer Fritz]

THX Deanan that you are on it... tomorrow I go on holidays, so I don't need it this fast... but thanks for the offer....

[Dustin Cross]

Thanks for this script, it is great, the only thing is when I render my prores files it limits all their durations to 1min 05secs. Do you have any idea why this is happening. thanks

If you are writing to disks on a network share they are limited to 2GB. That is the only reason I can think of. I don't know why this is. Need to do more research.

Or if you drive is formated FAT then it will be limited to 2GB.


Mahalo,
Dusty

[Dustin Cross]

REDrender in Automator does nothing for me. I open Automator, search for Red, see REDrender and a couple other things. I can't drag REDrender to the right pane, I can't double click. It does nothing. What do I need to do to even see what this does?

Mahalo,
Dusty

[lib]

I can't get automater to work either, I see action redale and try to drag it to the right side nothing happens. Same with other actions, can it be something to do with the version of osx I am running.

With regard to the redline code I was not writing to fat32, every quicktime had same duration so it was very strange.

[Dustin Cross]

With regard to the redline code I was not writing to fat32, every quicktime had same duration so it was very strange.

What size are the files?

If you just use Redline (not the script) to render the files does everything work?

Dusty

[lib]

I will render one out again just with redline.
Do you think that the script is just looking at the first 2gb of each the .r3d files.
this would explain why every prores clip is roughly 1.3gb.

[Dustin Cross]

Lib,

The script does the entire .R3D file. I have several RAW files that are 6 or 7 .R3D clips long. The script renders them and one large Prorez file. My script just tells Redline where the files are, where to output them, and what Redline options to use. Redline does everything else.

I am not sure what is happening with your files?

Make sure Redline can properly render your files by itself.

Dusty

[Deanan]

I can't get automater to work either, I see action redale and try to drag it to the right side nothing happens. Same with other actions, can it be something to do with the version of osx I am running.

With regard to the redline code I was not writing to fat32, every quicktime had same duration so it was very strange.

What OSX versions and automator version are you using?

[Dustin Cross]

Deanan,

I am using OSX 10.4.11 and Automator 1.0.5 (88.2)

None of the RED Automator scripts work for me. Do they only work in 10.5?


Thanks,
Dusty

[Deanan]

That could be the reason. All the testing here was done on 10.5.2 and automator 2.01. Since the automator actions are comipiled on 10.5.2 it could very well be incompatible with 10.4.

Which red automator actions are you guys using the most?

[Dustin Cross]

I have never used any of the Automator scripts. I am writing my own shell scripts with Redline and it is awesome. I just wanted to see what the Automator scripts did. The only thing I am missing is for Redcine to write .RSX files so I can use them with Redline.

Thanks
Dusty