Premiere's missing something

[Jay A. Kelley]

I gotta admit, right now I am wishing I was on FCP!! It would seem that Premiere does not have the abilty to take separate audio files and match them to video by reading thier timecode.

This is a huge issue. Has anyone managed to find a plug in or something to do this with?

Jay

[Christopher Grant Harvey]

EDIT: I see what you mean, I did a proper test and it does not read the TC.

[Hans von Sonntag]

I gotta admit, right now I am wishing I was on FCP!! It would seem that Premiere does not have the abilty to take separate audio files and match them to video by reading thier timecode.

This is a huge issue. Has anyone managed to find a plug in or something to do this with?

Jay

Thanks for bringing this up Jay,

Yes, this is the biggets downer I recently came across when testing Premiere. FCP can do this, Avid of course too but Premiere not.

Premier can sync sound to video via TC but is not able to read the TC of the WAV files recorded with a SD 744T for instance.

This issue makes Premier useless for my workflow (Red and 744T work seamlessly togehter, brilliant).

Other than this there a some points that why I would like to use Premiere (full RGB suppoert better than 8 bit, etc...).

Bummer. Back to FCP.

If anyone finds a plugin solving this I really would like to know.

BTW, there is a very unpractical workaround: Import sound to FCP, aktivate the file in the Bin window, press export and export it as a .mov.

In Premier you can read the .mov's TC without any picture file imbedded and use it as a sound file. Anfortunately there is no batch rederer which can accomplish this.

Hans

[Hans von Sonntag]

Jay it is there:

Select the clips you want to synchronize, Choose Clip > Synchronize, and then choose the following option:

Timecode Synchronizes clips to the specified timecode. If you use the hours value in source timecode as a camera designator, select the Ignore Hours option to use only minutes, seconds, and frames to synchronize clips.

Perhaps I did not fully understand what you say but:

Premiere does not read the embedded TC of imported soundfiles and shows 00:00:00:00 whereas FC and Avid actually show the recorded TC.

Hans

[Christopher Grant Harvey]

Perhaps this jay: http://www.bwfwidget.com/

Again not sure if I am helping... :biggrin:

[Jay A. Kelley]

I wrote to Cineform in the hopes they may be able to do something with their software. I dunno..

We need a solution to this big time. I own a Cantar X2 and I am screwed without this feature

Jay

[Christopher Grant Harvey]

I wrote to Cineform in the hopes they may be able to do something with their software. I dunno..

Jay

I just did the same thing... ha ha.

Did you have a look at the bwfwidget?

[Mike Harrington]

I wonder if we brought this up to the cineform guys.....

if they could put some functionality for this in HDlink, where when converting to cineform you could also specify wav files ti embed within the cineform avi....this could be done automatically....

they work this way with P2 DVCProHD....you select the video file....then it automatically links and embeds the relevant wav.

Maybe if we ask real nice....after all they would be fixing a major issue within premiere, and give another reason for people to buy there product.

[Hans von Sonntag]

We need a solution to this big time. I own a Cantar X2 and I am screwed without this feature

Jay

Envy Jay....:)

Hans

[Mike Harrington]

huh...i was too slow

funny everybody thinks the same

ASK CINEFORM

probably our best bet for a fast solution

[Greg M]

I gotta admit, right now I am wishing I was on FCP!!

Somebody took Jay's RedUser account and is posting messages. I am worried that Jay was kidnapped...he would never make such a statement!

[Andrew M.]

Did you guys try to punch in starting TC in the file properties.
I think it is what I did when I got stuck last time.
Sure, doing it for many clips is waste of time.

Also linking to Audition and doing sound in there works.

I have to check all these.

[Jay A. Kelley]

Funny Greg!!! Andrew, please do check this.. We need a solution here pretty damn bad!

:)

Jay

[Christopher Grant Harvey]

Did you guys try to punch in starting TC in the file properties.
I think it is what I did when I got stuck last time.
Sure, doing it for many clips is waste of time.

Also linking to Audition and doing sound in there works.

I have to check all these.

I tried but it refuses to acknowledge the TC... damn.

[Dave Neathery]

I gotta admit, right now I am wishing I was on FCP!! It would seem that Premiere does not have the abilty to take separate audio files and match them to video by reading thier timecode.

This is a huge issue. Has anyone managed to find a plug in or something to do this with?

Jay

I have been recording my sound in the camera, but I have the same problem. The way I have been doing it is that I extract the sound with QT and them put it on the time line lined up with the start point of the clip. One of the downsides is that I cannot trim the beginning of the clip in Redcine or I will not be able to align the clip.
The second probem is that the cameras do not stay in sync. If I record some audio on each camera, even though they are running wired to a common timecode generator, the audio drifts out of time. (They claim to have improved this in build 16), however, if those of us who are PC only upgrade to b16, we have absolutely useless cameras until there is some new software available.
Keep the faith Kelly, I would throw my cameras in the dumpster before I would get an Apple.

[Andrew M.]

It works only when I extracted sound from QT file and I type in starting TC in the file properties when I am in the AE.
Let me check if it work the same in Premiere.

[Andrew M.]

In Premiere if you put extracted audio file in the separate composition then you can enter any starting frame for this audio file.

Look upper left Starting TC 0:01:00:13
It is screen from AE