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Justin
01-07-2007, 10:55 PM
The new Mark Burnett / Steven Spielberg television project "On The Lot" looks like it could be a great/fun opportunity for Red to squeek in on for promotional reasons somehow, if at all possible. It just seems like it could be a nice "reveal" to Hollywood and the rest of the world that Red is furrreal. Im sure that there will be a lot of people watching to see what Spielberg does with this show, not to mention that it looks like the show will be airing around the same time that the cameras might start shipping...Who knows. Just something to chew I guess...

http://www.thelot.com/about/

(The cool thing about all of this is that Red will be fully realized in one way or another because thats just whats gonna happen, haha)

REDHKSC
01-08-2007, 12:51 AM
[QUOTE=Justin;3207]The new Mark Burnett / Steven Spielberg television project "On The Lot" looks like it could be a great/fun opportunity for Red to squeek in on for promotional reasons somehow,

Will Mr. Spielberg aware that of 1000+ RED Indies / filmmakers from around the world the chance to earn a $1-million development deal at DreamWorks.

" A chance is gonna come " - it's a CRM of Filmmakers to use less Films for the 4K D-Cinemas.

Stewart

Chris Gearhart
01-08-2007, 07:18 AM
That looks like a "reality" series I might actually watch.

Zakaree Sandberg
01-08-2007, 10:30 AM
so i registered an idea called "the director" which is a reality show about 16 film makers whom every week are given a small budget and asked to produce a film. at the end of each episode a "director" is cut and asked to leave. at the end a prize of a large budget and chance to make a feature film is given to the young film makers.. very similar to what spielburg and this burnett guy are doing.. now the thing is ... i registered this a long time ago.. and have planned on working with a producer to get it off the ground.. and then i heard about "on the lot" in november... what do i do?
i am registerd through wga but i have no idea on whom to contact or how to look up info on when "on the lot" became registered

Clint Johnson
01-08-2007, 11:45 AM
so i registered an idea called "the director" which is a reality show about 16 film makers whom every week are given a small budget and asked to produce a film. at the end of each episode a "director" is cut and asked to leave. at the end a prize of a large budget and chance to make a feature film is given to the young film makers.. very similar to what spielburg and this burnett guy are doing.. now the thing is ... i registered this a long time ago.. and have planned on working with a producer to get it off the ground.. and then i heard about "on the lot" in november... what do i do?
i am registerd through wga but i have no idea on whom to contact or how to look up info on when "on the lot" became registered

It is far too generic to be actionable. This is simply the typical "insert profession here" reality show where they give contestants a chance to try to do the job and then eliminate them based on celebrity judges and/or viewer votes. The only thing that sets these apart is the name recognition of the producers, talent and figureheads.

All you can have claim to would be the exact expression of the idea; the shows name, any catchphrases, scripted dialog etcetera. Other than that it is simply time for you to move on to another project.

Hoffmann Films
01-08-2007, 12:18 PM
thats sucks, but it happens everyday. Remember when NBC made a boxing reality show (contendor), FOx got wind and made there own boxing show(the next great champ?) and aired it before the NBC show. I guess the key here is when you get that great idea, don't wait pitch it before someone else does it.

PaulClements
01-08-2007, 02:03 PM
Not entirely true, Simon Cowell was taken to court by Simon Fuller over a programme called Xfactor in the UK because it infringed on Pop Idol (Known as American Idol in the US of course, and which fuller owns the rights to (at least pop idol in the UK anyway)). As such Cowell settled out of court and paid him off.

The biggest problem might be that your idea has not been fulfilled and therefore techinically doesn't exist, whereas Pop Idol had aired previous to Xfactor as for the laws I have no idea, but the two shows in question here were not of the exact same style and had more differences between each of them than your idea and the idea that is being produced.

Mark Thorpe
01-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Long story shortened. I pitched an idea to a Spanish TV company to do a series of travelogue programs promoting marine diversity and dive destinations some 7 years ago. Guess my dismay when I saw that TVE (the channel I pitched) were embarking on that very same or similar project with a complete Spanish crew with a budget of seven figures over 2 years and 13 destinations. Bummer. Now I keep my gob shut about most things until the deals are signed, sealed and delivered.

Cheers,
Mark.

Nick Shaw
01-08-2007, 03:45 PM
Sad fact of the industry. It happens all the time, and it's very hard to prove they didn't "already have a very similar idea in development".

Emanuel A.
01-08-2007, 08:07 PM
so i registered an idea called "the director" which is a reality show about 16 film makers whom every week are given a small budget and asked to produce a film. at the end of each episode a "director" is cut and asked to leave. at the end a prize of a large budget and chance to make a feature film is given to the young film makers.. very similar to what spielburg and this burnett guy are doing.. now the thing is ... i registered this a long time ago.. and have planned on working with a producer to get it off the ground.. and then i heard about "on the lot" in november... what do i do?
i am registerd through wga but i have no idea on whom to contact or how to look up info on when "on the lot" became registeredMaybe you should contact a lawyer with knowledge in copyright law and regarding your content documentation who knows if you'll hire him/her/them afterwards?

Zakaree Sandberg
01-09-2007, 07:51 AM
i did contact a lawyer.. and its not too generic.. i had specific situations that " on the lot" is going to be doing as well.

i learned my lesson the first time i had an idea...
i created a reality show called "FIREHOUSE" and the first season was going to be the newport beach, ca dept and therefore "FIREHOUSE: NEWPORT BEACH"
this was a show that would give a view a chance to see what it is like to be a firefighter (outside of saving cats and burning buildings).. basically the everyday life of living in the firehouse.. think real world meets cops. ... so im an idiot.. was super excited yet hadent registered it before i told a few people (biggest mistake ever).. i finally registered it quite a while later and to my dismay, i had seen a preview on discovery for
"FIREHOUSE: BOSTON" it flopped, but it was my idea!

Steve Gibby
01-09-2007, 08:09 AM
As a self syndicator and independent producer, I've packaged or pre-produced series and one-off programs for multiple broadcast, cable, and satellite networks over the years. In order to pitch them for a potential programming production, part of the boilerplate for their release forms always includes Hold Harmless clauses where you have to acknowledge that they may have thought of or been pitched for an idea that is similar to the one you want to pitch to them. It releases them from liability in case they produce or air something similar to your proposal. If you don't sign it, you don't get to pitch them, plain and simple. It's a risk you need to take if you want to have a production deal with them. If you have already produced the series or one-off program, and simply want to air it, then you have the ability to demonstrate that you produced the concept first. NDAs and Hold Harmless clauses are part and parcel of the television programming business. You learn to be careful who you pitch your projects to, but if you're too careful and won't sign their agreement, you won't get anything on the air.

Zakaree Sandberg
01-09-2007, 09:23 AM
yah but if your work is registered.. and your date of registration is before someone elses.. your entitled..
thats what copywrite does:)

Billy Summers
01-09-2007, 01:05 PM
yeah, but do you have enough money for lawyers to do battle with a network or TV station, by yourself?

Zakaree Sandberg
01-09-2007, 01:54 PM
nope.. so im gunna take it like a bitch and sit my ass down.... although i wasnt planing on getting money.. this is spielberg were talkin.. i dont wanna burn my bridges.. i would simly request a job at dreamworks:)
and a set of superspeeds

Billy Summers
01-09-2007, 02:08 PM
Maybe you could become a Director for "On the Lot". Make a short film, on the show, about how you got ripped off by the show, during the show, from the show? Then freak out during "Director interviews" about how they screwed you and eventually ....become the reality villain you've always wanted to be.

I don't know....maybe not...

Zakaree Sandberg
01-11-2007, 10:31 AM
giddy-up
ill make a documentary about it. and ill break the 4th dimension.

but one problem.. i can direct... i just dont want too.. thats why i became a cinematographer.. i like to light things.. and do the photography and tell the story with camera movements and lighting.. so im out of luck