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Scott Simmons
07-14-2008, 01:28 PM
SO I'm working with the newly released REDrushes but the Avid DNxHD codec doesn't show up in the codec dropdown menu ... the new REDCine build does show DNxHD as an option (though no option for 36, there's only one) but no in REDrushes.

Anyone actually seeing DNxHD in REDrushes or info on why the codec doesn't show even though it is installed on the system? This isn't very welcome news!
Jason Diamond
07-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Michael P said in another forum that they are diligently working to get DNxHD output to REDRushes and it is close and they are all committed to it. should be soon i suspect but i have no specific info.
Dylan Reeve
07-14-2008, 06:02 PM
I believe RED Alert has never offered DNxHD support. I believe they use hard-coded media support rather that the Quicktime's component/codec support, as the codec selection is very limited in RED Alert and REDline.
Deanan
07-14-2008, 06:22 PM
We've not enabled DNxHD because it's only been outputing noise up until now. Michael will have a new version of the codec soon that fixes this problem. The next version of RA/RL/RR should have it enabled.
Dylan Reeve
07-14-2008, 06:28 PM
Hey Deanan, I love you by the way. And Michael.
Troy Smith
07-14-2008, 06:34 PM
Does red rushes have as high quality debayering as Redcine and Red alert, or is it primarily for offline?

Thanks
Stricko
Dylan Reeve
07-14-2008, 06:41 PM
I haven't really looked at it yet, but from the description I would say it is more or less an interface for RED Alert (or it's processing features, a la REDline) so it will be the same.
Deanan
07-14-2008, 06:47 PM
REDrushes uses REDline to render and REDline uses exactly the same code as REDalert.
Scott Simmons
07-14-2008, 08:18 PM
We've not enabled DNxHD because it's only been outputing noise up until now. Michael will have a new version of the codec soon that fixes this problem. The next version of RA/RL/RR should have it enabled.

Interesting since it works in REDCine.... so do those two apps render in totally different ways?
Deanan
07-14-2008, 09:03 PM
It wasn't working in REDcine either for the same reasons. Michael posted about this elsewhere. However, you're right, they do render very differently
as one is cpu and the other is gpu.
Scott Simmons
07-15-2008, 05:32 AM
It wasn't working in REDcine either for the same reasons. Michael posted about this elsewhere. However, you're right, they do render very differently
as one is cpu and the other is gpu.

I see... just as an fyi, I updated REDCine yesterday and DNxHD was available as an output. I didn't try an export but the codec did show up.
MichaelP
07-15-2008, 06:55 AM
I am travelling this week in LA, but I need to get an update as to the QT Codec being updated on Avid.com. I will check today and report later when I hear something.

Michael
Jason Diamond
07-15-2008, 06:58 AM
thanks michael that would be amazing if it came this week :)
JonBaade
07-23-2008, 06:57 AM
Michael,

Any updates on the DNxHD issue for either RedCine or RedRushes? I'm want to push a client to abandon 35mm and switch over to Red for their next big ad campaign and right now the DNxHD issue is our only stumbling block in post workflow.

Thanks,

Jon
MichaelP
07-23-2008, 09:53 AM
I have not heard back - I know the new Avid codec was being tested by engineering. This will allow RedCine to make QT wrapped DNxHD, but only in the one flavor. The ability to choose which data rate is still not available.

Michael
MikeCurtis
07-23-2008, 12:15 PM
not being able to pick the data rate is a killer.

That said, WHICH data rate is the default? 115 or 175?
Jason Diamond
07-23-2008, 02:22 PM
well it was 115 before so that may not change.
175 would be awesome.
MichaelP
07-23-2008, 06:58 PM
According to the code, it defaults to the first one in the list which is 175x (10 bit).

Michael
T. Glen Phelps
07-23-2008, 11:30 PM
Is there currently any way to go to a DNx HD quicktime? Some kind of ProRes to DNx HD transcoding application. Compressor does not seem to have that option.
MichaelP
07-24-2008, 04:07 AM
RedCine alows for a sngle choice of DNxHD QuickTime at this time. Work is being done to allow the full selection.

Michael
JonBaade
07-24-2008, 06:54 AM
Michael,

I'm still getting noise when I compress to DNxHD out of RedCine. Am I missing an update? I thought I had all the new ones.

Jon
Jason Diamond
07-24-2008, 01:59 PM
Great news on the 175x!
MichaelP
07-24-2008, 04:24 PM
Michael,

I'm still getting noise when I compress to DNxHD out of RedCine. Am I missing an update? I thought I had all the new ones.

Jon

The updates haven't been released yet...

Michael
brandon thomas
09-25-2008, 12:07 PM
Has the update been released?
Jason Diamond
09-25-2008, 01:41 PM
ive heard it was soon..hang tight. cant say more
brandon thomas
09-25-2008, 01:49 PM
soon is never soon enough....
MichaelP
09-25-2008, 04:43 PM
The QT codecs are part of the v.3.0.5 release which I beleive is next week. The same QT codec will posted on Avid.com for systems that do not have the MC installer.

Michael
Jason Diamond
09-25-2008, 04:48 PM
see? :)
Chris Parker
09-30-2008, 08:48 AM
if i needed to get a select number of clips from .r3d into dnxhd codec, with a look applied to the clips, what is the best quality way to do this TODAY?

i am fine to use either redcine or red rushes....just looking for the best solution out there today. i need to give some clips to an avid editor so he can then work with them.....

redcine or red rushes???