Red iPhone apps?

[Erik Greensmith]

It might be cool to see some firmware 1.2.0 iPhone apps for working on-set with the Red. Digital camera reports would be cool.

[Noah Kadner]

Pad and paper has much longer battery life... not too mention more consistent 3G coverage...

Noah

[mikeburton]

Pad and paper has much longer battery life... not too mention more consistent 3G coverage...

Noah

I can use my iPhone to control iTunes as a remote. Possible as a remote start/stop over wifi on the Scarlet or Epic?

[Warren Kommers]

Couldn't a possible USB bluetooth or WiFi adapter be made for the RED ONE for remote trigger. Those damn ports seem to have so much potential besides just lights and my mini fridge.

http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0651

[Warren Kommers]

here it is....

http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0596

although I'm sure it takes something in the camera for this to work as well. not to mention a router. maybe bluetooth is better but limited range of course.

[Jeff Coatney]

Handy Reference guide, for Build #/ Frame Rate / Resolution, etc.

[Shawn Booth]

There is this:
http://red.glanzunion.de/

[Erik Greensmith]

There is this:
http://red.glanzunion.de/

I think a port is in order.

[Ed Watkins]

Wow, that's really freaky... I downloaded the SDK for the iPhone yesterday, with the intention of porting something similar to that, and also http://www.dofmaster.com/iphone.html into an app.

However, I'll see if I actually get the time to do it though.

I was also wondering whether it would be possible to get an accurate distance reading to a subject by comparing two photos from the iPhone, but the coding for that is way beyond my abilities.

[percy fung]

Wow, that's really freaky... I downloaded the SDK for the iPhone yesterday, with the intention of porting something similar to that, and also http://www.dofmaster.com/iphone.html into an app.

However, I'll see if I actually get the time to do it though.

I was also wondering whether it would be possible to get an accurate distance reading to a subject by comparing two photos from the iPhone, but the coding for that is way beyond my abilities.

Great work...
Thanks:bleh:

[Jeffrey Holland]

An app controlling Scarlet via wifi from the iPhone would be amazing. Start/Stop....Remaining space.....small video window.

[cinemano]

wow so many people followed the iphone crowd.. mêêêêê (sheep sound)
something without a memory card slot is just a rip off for me. I dont wana keep changing device when i need extra memory. hehe :P

[Manolo S. Navazo]

Wow, that's really freaky... I downloaded the SDK for the iPhone yesterday, with the intention of porting something similar to that, and also http://www.dofmaster.com/iphone.html into an app.

However, I'll see if I actually get the time to do it though.


david eubank http://www.davideubank.com/ got some very helpfull tools... pcam and pcine. thesere are palm based programms, perhaps somebody knows about an emulator for iphone.
you can find palm emulation programms for your pc to see how it works. would be nice to see something similar on a iphone with touch modification.

[Manuel Wenger]

David is working on a Iphone port for pcam and pcine

[Manolo S. Navazo]

David is working on a Iphone port for pcam and pcine

don't know if i am remembering well, but i think this information on his webpage is still some time old.

in a country of competition i am a little bit impatient :clown2:

[Ed Watkins]

David is working on a Iphone port for pcam and pcine

Cool, that saves me a bunch of work, he's far more on the ball on this than I am.

[Zaphod]

I don't have an iPhone, but I believe it can read Excell files?

If so, you might be able to run the Panavision Cine Tools Calculator:

Panavision cine tools Calculator (http://www.panavision.com.au/Downloads/DownloadsCineTools.htm)

[Paul Harrill]

I've not compiled a list of iphone apps, but here are the best iphone WEB apps for filmmakers I've found:

http://www.selfreliantfilm.com/?p=339

[Warren Kommers]

wow so many people followed the iphone crowd.. mêêêêê (sheep sound)
something without a memory card slot is just a rip off for me. I dont wana keep changing device when i need extra memory. hehe :P

What memory card phone of yours holds 16GB's?

[Ed Watkins]

I just finished building a storage calculator and DoF calc as a native app for the iphone called iSeeRed...
... but then I went to upload it (with the intention of distributing it for free, and found out Apple want $99 from me to give it away for free on their store (the only way to download apps to the iPhone).

Seems like I wasted my time.

Here's some screen shots though.
http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/icon.jpg

http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/RedEye.jpg http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/4Kstore.jpg

[Tim Sutherland]

I bet some people would buy it/send you paypal money to get it posted on the store. looks sweet, if I had the phone then I'd be all over it.

[Shawn Booth]

Ed -

What does it cost to sell it at the AppStore? Your app looks great and I would certainly purchase it from iTunes. $9.99 without thinking twice.

Is getting it through iTunes the only way to install it to the phone?

I want this.

[Jeff Brown]

Ditto - so that $18.98.

Are there eight more people out there to at leat make it a breakeven?


Cheers

Jeff Brown
RED708

[Leo Ticheli]

Hi Ed,
By all means please put your app on the Apple Store! We'll all be happy for you to be rewarded for your work.

Looks great!

Best regards,

Leo

[Alexander Christ]

...one more here. Ed, put it on the store!

[Steven D.]

I would paypal to see it on the store. PM me if you decide to put it up.

Thanks

[Steve Freebairn]

You'll sell way more than 99 dollars if you put it up. There is no question about it.

[Thom Steinhoff]

A lot of people have been turned down from the app store so it is not just a matter of paying the $100. In fact more were turned away than accepted.

Looks like a cool app. Make it useful to a wider audience and with some luck you could get it in the store and make a bundle.

[Harmonica]

I'm in! By the way, what is the "trailblazer" tab for?

[Harmonica]

A lot of people have been turned down from the app store so it is not just a matter of paying the $100. In fact more were turned away than accepted.

Looks like a cool app. Make it useful to a wider audience and with some luck you could get it in the store and make a bundle.

Jannard has connections, doesn't he? :clown2:

[Colin Hubick]

I'm in too!

[Ed Watkins]

Hi all, thanks for the support.

I realize apple will have to view the code and then sign off on it, if it is to be accepted. That is standard distribution practice. So there is no guaranty that they will accept it. Still, I'll give it a shot. I still think they are taking the Mickey with their fees though.

The 'TrailBlazer' tab was going to be for showing menu guides, which could be zoomed using the touch interface, but the sdk is so woefully short of example code I think that'll have to wait a while.

Instead I have added a spunky little app that tells you what the max frame rates and timebases are for your set up.

http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/RedSetGo.jpg

[Harmonica]

That's pretty slick, Ed. Good luck to you (and to us)!

[Tobias Straka]

If that app makes it into the store, I guess I ll have to get myself an iPhone...

[Curran Giddens]

I went to buy an iPhone at the Apple store in NYC the other day, but they had just sold out of the black 16GB one that I wanted. They made the announcement just when I was about to get in line. At least I didn't have to wait in line for hours before I found out....

Ed, count me in as another customer for your app.

[Tim Fassnacht]

Ed,

Two more customers here in LA for sure.

Tim Fassnacht
Geist 11 LLC

[Jason Wingrove]

how bout a REDone menu simulator? so you can teach or show others how to change settings etc?

[Simon Blackledge]

Thats a great idea Jason! :)

s

[Allan Stallard]

Everyone with an iPhone and who works in proximity of a Red will buy/download this and other apps and be glad to pay for them!

I can't wait!

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Hi all, thanks for the support.

I realize apple will have to view the code and then sign off on it, if it is to be accepted. That is standard distribution practice. So there is no guaranty that they will accept it. Still, I'll give it a shot. I still think they are taking the Mickey with their fees though.

The 'TrailBlazer' tab was going to be for showing menu guides, which could be zoomed using the touch interface, but the sdk is so woefully short of example code I think that'll have to wait a while.

Instead I have added a spunky little app that tells you what the max frame rates and timebases are for your set up.

http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/RedSetGo.jpg

this is nice....

[Ido Karilla]

Would it be possible to control all the meneus with an iphone comftorbale interface.
Maybe even control the ramping fps with your finger on the touch screen?

[Brook Willard]

I'd buy it.

You oughta put a field of view & equivalent focal length calculator in there as well. PCam and PCine are on their way for iPhone as well.

[Brent J. Craig]

... Apple want $99 from me to give it away for free on their store (the only way to download apps to the iPhone).

Seems like I wasted my time.

I think you will find that a very large number of iPhone/iTouch users have 'jailbroken' phones. These come with an app called Installer that let anyone distribute iPhone software without Apple's restrictive policies. Developers using this method usually have a Paypal donation link built in.

Check out this page (http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/installer-support/188351-adding-applications-installer-your-repository-free-appstore.html)for info how to do it.

[Vigen Vartanov]

Yes i like way of Installer :) because 50 % of iphone is Jalibroken :)

[Ed Watkins]

I'd buy it.

You oughta put a field of view & equivalent focal length calculator in there as well. PCam and PCine are on their way for iPhone as well.

Here ya go. I think that's all the features I'm adding for the moment.
I have put a custom sensor size, and LMF (Lens Magnification Factor) on these two so people can use them to convert between different lens types (Nikon, Cannon, 16mm, 35mm) as well as sensor/ film sizes. Primarily this App is for RED, so don't expect me to add presets for every other format.

http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/newscreens.jpg

[Tim Fassnacht]

Ed,

Kudos man, This looks fantastic.

Any word from Apple on including it in the store?

Is there a work around to install the App without getting it through iTunes?

[Mark Phelan]

So exactly how are we going to be able to purchase it? And when do you think it will be available?

[Simon Blackledge]

at $10 he only needs 10 buyers to break even...

its $99 to put it on the store.

s

[Warren Kommers]

put it in itunes ED. you will get your investment back fo sho.

[Vincent S]

great stuff, I'll buy it also.

\v

[ATF]

Heya,

Totally in for a copy.

It looks like they are opening up to more developers now that they have 4-5 copies of the flashlight application up there. Nyuk!

Users downloaded 10 million apps on the first day.

I know I picked up a bunch of the free ones and a few in the $5 - $10 range. You would definitely make your investment back and probably a nice profit from it as well. RED owners won't be the only ones downloading it.

Nice going on the app!

ATF

[Bing Bailey]

I'm good for a copy too

[mikeburton]

I'm in, get that app in the store!!!

[Mike Prevette]

I'm totally in. Get it up!

[Shawn Booth]

No wonder your camera is called Einstein.

Seriously though, hope you're trying to get it published to iTunes. Send them the link to this thread B-)

[Craig Meadows]

Ed - great app. I'd buy in a heart beat. It's almost as cool as the iPhone light saber. jk

[Ed Watkins]

It's currently awaiting iTunes approval.
If that fails, i'll see if I can make it into a Jailbreak app (not as easy as it sound with the new firmware), then at least some people can use it.

[Simon Blackledge]

fingers crossed :)

[Joe D'Arcy]

I'll pay for a copy as well.

[Michael Hastings]

It's currently awaiting iTunes approval.
If that fails, i'll see if I can make it into a Jailbreak app (not as easy as it sound with the new firmware), then at least some people can use it.

Ed; is there anyway we can influence itunes? - i.e. email someone at itunes saying we are interested in your app.

[ATF]

Hello,

Unfortunately, there isn't. Read this article about it.

http://gizmodo.com/5027790/why-we-still-need-the-iphone-app-black-market

or

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/18/longtime-mobile-developer-feels-no-love-from-apple/

Let's hope we see it soon, though!

Nice job again!

ATF

[Martin Weiss]

Here´s a nice list of iPhone apps for film makers:

http://www.selfreliantfilm.com/?p=339

[Ed Watkins]

Hi all,

While I wait in Apple app review purgatory. Those with JailBroken phones running Cydia might want to test it out/ play with it.

I haven't got a Jailbroken phone so I can't test if this install method works, but I have been told if you ssh the app to your iPhone and then use 'ldid' (from Cydia) on the code file on your iPhone using the following commands it should work (replacing the xyz for the app name obviously).

ldid -S /Applications/xyz.app/xyz
chmod +x /Applications/xyz.app/xyz

PM if you want the app for free.

[Jim Hoffman]

Looks great - I'd pony up.

[mralmostpopular]

Sorry to join the discussion late here. I have a question. How did you manage to download the SDK pack without first signing up as a developer, which is when you pay the $99? You gotta be really careful man, cuz Apple has been very strict with their developers program and their SDKs.

[ATF]

Hello,

You can download the SDK just fine without paying anything and it's perfectly legal. If you want to submit your app to the store for distribution, then you need to pay $99.

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/

Best,

ATF

[Shawn Booth]

Someday soon I (we) hope....

[Alexander Mitchell]

Any updates Ed?

Another customer with a dozen others I know for sure to follow. App looks great, can't wait to see it in the store!

[jimhare]

Hello,

You can download the SDK just fine without paying anything and it's perfectly legal. If you want to submit your app to the store for distribution, then you need to pay $99.

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/

Best,

ATF

Exactly. I think the $99 developer version allows you to connect to the iPhone directly for testing where the free one just emulates. Something like that anyway.

[Stephen Gentle]

Is it possible to compile your app into an IPA file? Because you can drag them into iTunes and install it - so maybe you could distribute that.

[Ed Watkins]

Hi all,

Just to let you know my app was approved to go into the App store.
I am currently waiting on Apple to sign the contract and then it should go live in the next week priced at an affordable (I hope) $8.99.

I also gave the app a little face lift, fixed a couple of bugs, and changed the name (on August 4th, prior to Jim's announcement today) to iSee4K as I didn't want any trademark issues.

I'll keep you all posted.

[Shawn Booth]

YES!
Can't wait to purchase...

[ATF]

SWEET!

I was just over there looking around for your app and came over to see what was going on.

Can't wait!

Best,

ATF

[Evin Grant]

What does this app do?

[dekekincaid]

If you decide to make another app or add to this one, a timecode calculator and a drive space estimator for different codecs besides redcode would be nice.

[Ed Watkins]

If you decide to make another app or add to this one, a timecode calculator and a drive space estimator for different codecs besides redcode would be nice.

I may, or may not, add more features to the app in the future. However, I will definitely update it (with the red builds) and patch any bugs/errors that crop up.

I only really built the app to fulfill a specific short term need I had. Namely to quickly reference RED frame settings, calculate RED storage, establish DoF/FoV, and work out equivalent lenses.

Other programs like Pcalc and Pcine are far more advanced, and already do most of what you were asking, I definitely don't want to start competing against them.

That said, space estimation for codecs like ProRes (HQ), DPX and 1080pHD would probably be very useful. I'll give it some thought.

[Ian Laurie]

Wow. i don't even have my camera yet (4236) and yet i am excited about using your app. even looked over the itunes store already just to see if it was up. so add another customer. plus a few others as i show it off to some peers before my camera gets here

[Ed Watkins]

Hey all,

Some good news!
iSee4K is now live on the app store.
Apple were taking such along time getting the paid contracts sorted that I have decided to make the app free.

BUT I would really appreciate a small donation ($7.50) if you use and like it.
I'd like to cover the $99 apple developer fee, once that's reached I'll take down the button.

You can make a donation by clicking on the button at:
http://abbeygateway.co.uk/iSee4k.php

You can get version 1.0 of the app at:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=287324658&mt=8

Version 1.1 is currently pending approval, so should be released soon, the update includes build 16 storage estimates.

[Alexander Mitchell]

Just downloaded the App from the store- great little program! Thanks Ed for taking the time to create it.

One thing, I was ready to pay the $8.99 fee, but for some reason it's listed as free? That a mix-up on Apple's part?

FYI

[Shawn Booth]

You can donate $7.50 through PayPal.

You can make a donation by clicking on the button at:
http://abbeygateway.co.uk/iSee4k.php

THANKS ED!

[jimhare]

Donation sent. Don't feel obligated to remove the donation button once you've recovered the developer fee.

You have gone to a lot of effort to get this on iTunes and you should let us at least buy you dinner!

Jim from Sydney

[Obin Olson]

i would pay for it

[michael zaletel]

I think Mr. Jannard should approach Mr. Jobs about a RED branded "super-mini-camera" for the iPhone 3G Video when it finally comes out. It is only a matter of time before the iPhone offers full video and video conferencing. What a great way for RED to get their name out there.

I know, I know, RED is all about 2k, 4k, 5k, 37k etc. but considering how efficient the RED Codec is and the R3D file format and considering what RED knows about efficient digital imagery, they could design and build an amazing mini-camera that would shoot maybe 720 x 480 Raw and the files would be teeny-tiny. In exchange for a lowered price, there would be a RED Digital Cinema logo on the back of every Video iPhone. Considering Apple will eventually be selling hundreds of millions of these around the world, this would serve for incredible branding and could actually generate a sizable profit. Not to mention what a great little "field" tool the iPhone Video with RED Raw would be in the overall RED workflow.

Thoughts?

-shooter

[Stacey Spears]

Ed, great app!

Any chance you can convert some of the edit boxes into combo boxes? e.g. The frame rate box. :)

Another nice feature would be to persist feet vs. meter preference.

[Ed Watkins]

Any chance you can convert some of the edit boxes into combo boxes? e.g. The frame rate box. :)

Another nice feature would be to persist feet vs. meter preference.

Framerate combo box.
Already done for storage calc in version 1.1.

Persistent preferences.
Still trying to work out how to keep settings saved between usages, but the damn apple NDA means that developers can't actually talk about how to do things. I'll probably do it with a database driven solution.

Donations greatly appreciated: http://abbeygateway.co.uk/iSee4k.php

[Nick Shaw]

Nice app. Can I ask what CoC you used for Red.

[Ed Watkins]

Sure, CoC is often a matter of personal preference (as it relies on intended display size, actual sensor size, and sensor/film resolution)
I went with a CoC of 0.02 as I believe it represents a good compromise, but if there is a compelling need for a different CoC I'd be willing to change it.
(I added the custom CoC overide for that very reason)

Donations greatly appreciated: http://abbeygateway.co.uk/iSee4k.php

The others are set at my usual settings of:
35mm CoC 0.029
16mm CoC 0.0125

[afcdmc]

Hi Ed!! Can you do a version for the jailbroken phones? I have my iPhone jailborken and I don't want to upgrade to the 2.1 firmware!! Thanks for the great App!!

[Brent J. Craig]

I have installed and paid. Thanks!

I'm finding the grey on black text very hard to read. And why would your T-stop change when converting between formats?!? 5.6 is 5.6 on any sized sensor.

[Michael Thornton]

Sound like a great app.

I have not try it yet, but a donation has been made.

Please keep it up.

Thanks

Tek

[Ed Watkins]

I have installed and paid. Thanks!

I'm finding the grey on black text very hard to read. And why would your T-stop change when converting between formats?!? 5.6 is 5.6 on any sized sensor.

Which part of the app are you referring to? I'm guessing Lens2Lens?

The point of lens2lens is to try and replicate the look of a lens (the DoF and FoV) on one sensor (camera 1), to a different sized sensor (camera 2) by suggesting a lens and t-stop to use on camera 2.

Why does the t-stop change?
f/5 on a 50mm will not have the same DoF as f/5 on a 25mm.

Hence, the T-stop, and lens focal length lens2lens suggests for camera 2 is trying to match the DoF (specifically hyper focal length), and FoV of the lens on camera 1 accounting for the difference in sensor size.

i.e a 50mm f/8 lens on a 4K sensor, will have a similar DoF and FoV to a 25mm f/4 lens on a 2K sensor.

It's not 100% accurate, but it will put you in the ball park.

[Christopher Adams]

Any chance of a quick and dirty screencapture with labels for everyting?
Im still sorting though the icons int he DOF portion of the app.
Or maybe a mini write up?
CJ
BTW already bought and donated!

[Ed Watkins]

Any chance of a quick and dirty screencapture with labels for everyting?
Im still sorting though the icons int he DOF portion of the app.
Or maybe a mini write up?
CJ
BTW already bought and donated!

Sure, I wasn't aware the descriptions were so hard to read.
I must have my contrast turned up higher than everyone else. :nerd:
I'll change the text color to white in version 1.2, and put a quick run through on my site.

[Christopher Adams]

Sweet!!!

[Brent J. Craig]

The point of lens2lens is to try and replicate the look of a lens (the DoF and FoV) on one sensor (camera 1), to a different sized sensor (camera 2)

Of course. I wasn't making the connection that you were also talking about DOF, not just equivalent focal lengths. Makes sense now.

[Ed Watkins]

Support site is now up.

http://www.iSee4k.com

Click the icons at the top view details and layout guides for the specific mini apps.

[Ian Laurie]

boy was i suprised when a random search of the app store turned up isee4k just one day after i read about it on here. gladly donated to your cause.

[Ed Watkins]

iSee4k v1.1 is now available for download on iTunes (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=287324658&mt=8).

It includes the updated build 16 data rate storage calculator.

Support site here (http://www.isee4k.com)

Any requests for build 1.2?
(bear in mind it takes Apple 1-2 weeks to approve each new update, which is just plain silly)

[Tim Fassnacht]

hey ed,

your paypal link is down...

[Brent J. Craig]

Support site is now up.

http://www.iSee4k.com

Boy, you really like dark grey text on a black background, don't you? The brightness and contrast must be turned way up on all the screens you use. :-)

[Ed Watkins]

Boy, you really like dark grey text on a black background, don't you? The brightness and contrast must be turned way up on all the screens you use. :-)

What can I say? I don't like my pages white.
I'm changing the text color to white on the app in v1.2, do I take it you'd like the same for the site? :tongue:

[Ed Watkins]

O.k, any requests for version 1.2?

Current updates planned:
White text
Saved states
User definable custom presets

Oh and just to let you know the app has been downloaded by more than 10,000 people since I released it.

Guess how many donated.. :waaa:

But, a big thanks to those who did!

[Hugh]

Just grabbed it.... I'm not an owner myself, but I've been on a shoot for the odd day here and there over the past couple of weeks with a crew who are using one. Hopefully more so in the future....

I do like the app - it's very straightforward and simple. Very nice.

[Shawn Booth]

Ed 10K, that's great - Why'd you give it away?! I'm sure you've done your own math... damn.

Can't believe those who needed it can't afford $7.50. Losers. Bastards.
The economy isn't that bad and the RED isn't that expensive when all is said and done.

Maybe you could post a list of those who have donated..... Only works if you post the list of those who downloaded, nevermind.

My apologies, having a bad day - clients are completely out of their minds....

Request - Built in RED problem solver. Can solve any issues, anytime, anywhere.
And for free. Not gonna pay for what should have been there in the first place.

(Yes, joking)

[Hugh]

I like it - a lot. Not used it in anger too much (although I did show the 2nd AC and DIT guys on a film I was on on friday night - they were both quite impressed by it, but neither of them have iPhones...)

A few thoughts/suggestions on it:

It would be nice to be able to customise the 4 camera settings, so you can have the ones that you want there when you need them. And to have the same 4 be there on the first 3 pages. (I know, it doesn't make so much sense to have the RED 2k, 3k and 4k all on the RedEye page, but if

For example, I'd want to have RED 4k, 35mm film, 16mm film and 35mm stills as my 4. And if I was shooting RED 2k or 3k, I could always just flip out the RED 4k for 2k settings.

Most of the pages have two buttons for changing the settings... This feels a little unnecessary.

It would be nice if the "calculate" button was unneeded. If changing any of the values or settings would automatically get the results re-calculated too.

That's all my thoughts for now - I do like it!

[Brent J. Craig]

It would be nice if the "calculate" button was unneeded. If changing any of the values or settings would automatically get the results re-calculated too.

I was going to request the same thing! The iPhone is quite powerful, I'm sure it could handle recalculating any time anything is changed.

I donated.

[Ed Watkins]

A few thoughts/suggestions on it:

It would be nice to be able to customise the 4 camera settings, so you can have the ones that you want there when you need them. And to have the same 4 be there on the first 3 pages.

It would be nice if the "calculate" button was unneeded. If changing any of the values or settings would automatically get the results re-calculated too.


That's pretty much what I'm planning for the next build. But It'll take me a while to get round to coding it. The eventual idea is to allow the user to set any camera they desire to the preset buttons.

I hear you on the calculate button, but for me it is a UI design preference.
I like the finality of pressing "calculate" to realize a result. It is also acts to ensure that the user sees all the settings are correct before reading the result, which on a hectic set I find useful.

Maybe I'll add a preference option for auto calc... we'll see.

[Hugh]

Sounds cool.

I'd definitely be interested in seeing an 'auto calc' option....

It be interesting to see how, for example, the storage needed changes as you change the camera settings.... Or the DoF as the aperture changes

[Kyle Mallory]

Ed,

Just downloaded and donated. Unfortunate that only a handful have donated, given the number of downloads from the App Store.

You might consider a $1 or $2 purchase on the App Store. I'm a cheap bastard, but so are most people. I like the app, and I'm sure I'll find it extremely useful in the days, weeks, months to come, but I have a hard time paying more than 4$ for an iphone app. And at 4$, is better wipe my ass for me.

I think if you had a price in the 1$/2$, you'd probably only get a few hundred purchases instead of 10k downloads, but you'd have still made a little more than what's been donated so far.

My suggestions, expand the application, using the same apps to support a variety of formats/cameras/sensors/etc. I can think of a lot of people who would find the same application valuable (at 2$ maybe even 3$) for HDV, MiniDV, P2, etc, 1/4", 1/3", 1/2" 16mm sensor sizes, etc.

[Kyle Mallory]

I hear you on the calculate button, but for me it is a UI design preference.
I like the finality of pressing "calculate" to realize a result. It is also acts to ensure that the user sees all the settings are correct before reading the result, which on a hectic set I find useful.

Maybe I'll add a preference option for auto calc... we'll see.

I can see the method to your madness. Might I suggest having the calculate button highlighted (bright red or something) when any values have changed, but the calculate button HASN'T been pressed? An option to auto-calc would be a nice touch.

[Ed Watkins]

Ed,

I think if you had a price in the 1$/2$, you'd probably only get a few hundred purchases instead of 10k downloads, but you'd have still made a little more than what's been donated so far.

My suggestions, expand the application, using the same apps to support a variety of formats/cameras/sensors/etc. I can think of a lot of people who would find the same application valuable (at 2$ maybe even 3$) for HDV, MiniDV, P2, etc, 1/4", 1/3", 1/2" 16mm sensor sizes, etc.

Thanks for the donation Kyle (and every one else!),

I'm not really out to make a profit on the App, I made it for my own use primarily, but people seemed interested enough to want me to put it on the app store.

The donation button was only online to cover the cost to get it on the store.
And with your last donation :greedy: ...I just reached that total. Yay!

I think I keep the RED version free, but I'm toying with the idea of making a $1 version with all the other camera formats in it.

[Corrado Silveri]

Thanks!

Just to say that iSee4k it's great...

E-motion, Genoa, Italy. :usd:

[Kyle Mallory]

I made it for my own use primarily, but people seemed interested enough...

That sounds eerily similar to a statement made by some guy named Jim Jannard, about some hack/scam of a 4k camera. You may have heard about it, I dunno... :innocent:

[Shamol Majumder]

I didn't read this thread very thoroughly, so I (unintentionally) overlooked the donation part, until now...


Guess how many donated.. :waaa:
One more :biggrin:

[Barry Gregg]

Ed;
I randomly found iSee4K at the iPhone apps store. Fantastic little app, THANKS! and I made a donation via http://www.isee4k.com/

I can't wait to see what else can be written to drive the camera with the iPhone. It would be amazing to have the menus avail through the iPhone.

Thanks again, Barry

[Paul Leeming]

Just donated, thanks Ed :)

[Dwain Barrick]

Thanks Ed. Great App!

[Mikael Lubtchansky]

Hello, just wanted to mention a small and cheap app I've just bought for the iPhone :

http://www.gravitropic.com/

it is promising and might not be 100% ready yet for pro users (only displays the time and not a customizable timecode, displays decimal fractions of secs instead of framerate, no speakable sound for scene / take number etc) but could be handy to sync 2 cams with no TC cable or audio when jam sync is not available...

(btw, I am not affiliatted with this app in any way, just thought you may like to know about it)

[Paul Leeming]

Thanks for that Mikael, I bought it and it works as advertised! I'll post a review on the app store requesting customisable framerate but it's pretty obvious when it "claps" :)

http://www.visceralpsyche.com/misc/web_images/slate1.png

http://www.visceralpsyche.com/misc/web_images/slate2.png

Too funny!! :)

Cheers,

Paul

[Gregory Karydis]

I was thinking of making something along the lines of isee4k when I stumbled upon it on another thread.
Very handy app indeed!
And since I will be renting out my RED One in a few days, I thought I'd add an iPod Touch with this app (and in the future the controller for the Canon EF mount by alesniak) to the package.
So I donated twice since I will be using the app on two devices :)
Thanks Ed!

[Ed Watkins]

Hey all,

Just thought I'd keep you in the loop with my iPhone app. I just passed my MFA degree yesterday (about time...), so I finally had time to re-work iSee4K for version 1.2.

It should be available in 1-2 weeks (whenever Apple approve the new release.)

New features:
* re-designed look (slicker, more RED like)
* all inputs are saved, so no more re-entering values every time you close it.
* no more small grey text
* new reverse storage calculator
* extra awesomeness.

It is still free.

http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/DoF.jpg
http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/space.jpg http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/time.jpg

[Paul Leeming]

For those interested in filmmaker tools on your iPhone, there's a new site called Handheld Hollywood you may wish to read:

http://www.handheldhollywood.com

They've just posted a comparison of the various timecode slate apps that may be useful to a lot of you.

HTH

Paul

[Aaron McAdam]

Hey, Mr. Watkins,

Can you make it for Android? :blush:

[Mitch Gross]

Hey guys, I so happened to have posted a second compilation of useful iPhone apps for Cinematography on our blog, CineTechnica. Check it out here:

http://blog.abelcine.com/2009/10/06/iphone-apps-for-the-modern-cinematographer-pt-ii/

[Sam Winzar]

Hey, Mr. Watkins,

Can you make it for Android? :blush:

I too would love to see iSee4k or something similar on Android.

[JosephArthur]

Is it still around?


I just finished building a storage calculator and DoF calc as a native app for the iphone called iSeeRed...
... but then I went to upload it (with the intention of distributing it for free, and found out Apple want $99 from me to give it away for free on their store (the only way to download apps to the iPhone).

Seems like I wasted my time.

Here's some screen shots though.
http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/icon.jpg

http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/RedEye.jpg http://naturalscinema.com/iPhone/4Kstore.jpg

[Paul Leeming]

It is Joseph, it's called iSee4K in the App Store. Free with suggested donation on Ed's website.

HTH

Paul

[JosephArthur]

You can change the value of your iPhone Application as you see fit. One week have it for $ .99 cents and another week you have have it up for $ 4.99 or just have it free and gadge it from there as you have. (you'll never know unless you try).


Ed,

Just downloaded and donated. Unfortunate that only a handful have donated, given the number of downloads from the App Store.

You might consider a $1 or $2 purchase on the App Store. I'm a cheap bastard, but so are most people. I like the app, and I'm sure I'll find it extremely useful in the days, weeks, months to come, but I have a hard time paying more than 4$ for an iphone app. And at 4$, is better wipe my ass for me.

I think if you had a price in the 1$/2$, you'd probably only get a few hundred purchases instead of 10k downloads, but you'd have still made a little more than what's been donated so far.

My suggestions, expand the application, using the same apps to support a variety of formats/cameras/sensors/etc. I can think of a lot of people who would find the same application valuable (at 2$ maybe even 3$) for HDV, MiniDV, P2, etc, 1/4", 1/3", 1/2" 16mm sensor sizes, etc.

[Ramesh Jai]

Has anyone tried Artemis Director's Viewfinder? Any views? Thanks

[Michal M.]

Hi,
I've tried to get iSee4K in the App Store and it seems like this application is not there at the moment. Does anyone know why?
Thanks

[Jeff Kilgroe]

@Ramesh, Thee are several director's viewfinder type apps. Of course, they can't simulate the same optical properties of the larger sensor in HD (and cinema, especially) cameras. The app can simulate the AOV/FOV, but will not be able to account for or represent many wide FOV situations for focal lengths shorter than what is possible on the camera. It can be pretty restrictive. :(


@Michal, I believe iSee4K has been pulled since it's no longer being developed/supported.