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Peter Majtan
08-16-2008, 01:51 PM
Any idea what is "RED EXPRESS"?

It says in the specs that it will play "4K, 2K, 1080P, 720P AND SD FROM RED DISC AND RED EXPRESS"...

Any ideas?
Joseph Hutson
08-16-2008, 02:05 PM
Any idea what is "RED EXPRESS"?

It says in the specs that it will play "4K, 2K, 1080P, 720P AND SD FROM RED DISC AND RED EXPRESS"...

Any ideas?

Media? :bleh:
Peter Majtan
08-16-2008, 03:02 PM
D'oh! But what kind? It's not the external Red Drive, nor the CF and we can safely assume the the RED name of the optical DVD is the "Red Disc"...

So what is "Red Express"?
Dylan Reeve
08-16-2008, 03:06 PM
Putting two and two together (and speculating wildly) it would sound as if it might be RED's answer to Sony's SxS - a high-efficiency ExpressCard solidstate memory card.
Joseph Hutson
08-16-2008, 04:25 PM
D'oh! But what kind?

I knew I would get this response, so that's why I wrote it.:biggrin:

This has been posted on Red's website for quite a while though.

I first checked USPTO.GOV and couldn't find a trademark registered, so I am not sure what the deal is...wanna register a trademark and sell it? :greedy: I wouldn't either.

I am guessing that they have changed to a different name, or dropped it altogether. ???
Peter Majtan
08-16-2008, 10:40 PM
Putting two and two together (and speculating wildly) it would sound as if it might be RED's answer to Sony's SxS - a high-efficiency ExpressCard solidstate memory card.

This would actually make sense for both Epic & Scarlet as well, You might be onto something... Just pull it out of the camera and stick it to the slot in the side of Your Macbook Pro - or in the Red-Ray - and off You go watching Your footage... Hmmmmmmm..... :whistling:
Harrison Diamond
08-16-2008, 11:13 PM
Just a question, but are there any ExpressCard plugins available for desktop computers? I haven't seen anything like that yet. I know it is based on PCI Express, but i've never seen an interface for it on anything but a laptop.
Dylan Reeve
08-17-2008, 12:08 AM
There are plenty of options, but the biggest problem in a desktop computer is that they are usually implemented as a PCIexpress expansion card, which means the slot is on the back.

Like this for example: http://www.amtron.com/reader/pcie101.htm

There are also a few USB express card readers, but beware, they are not what they seem - they only implement the USB interface (ExpressCard has two interface options, USB and PCIe - either one or both can be used by a card). It will only support USB cards, and will obviously be limited to USB speeds. These are no good for SxS for example.

There are also some front-mounting PCIe Express Card interfaces - like this one: http://www.synchrotech.com/products-expc/pcie-expresscard-slot-drive_03.html

There are a variety of OS/BIOS issues with PCIe hotswap too. Some adapters will only work if there is an express card mounted when the computer boots. In other cases the OS won't recognise or support the PCIe hotswap feature required to support the swapping cards. Be very careful to check all that out before you buy.

As for the current batch of ExpressCard SSD devices - they are all (I think) crap. They implement only the USB interface - making them essentially hard-to-use USB memory sticks. SxS is different, but is a proprietary interface.
Peter Majtan
08-17-2008, 01:32 PM
Maybe Red will implement the PCIe properly with native support (at full speed) in laptops and external reader for desktops - even if it was FW800 (with future upgrade to FW3200 via firmware) - that would be enough to be practical... :)
Adam Levins
08-17-2008, 01:38 PM
Putting two and two together (and speculating wildly) it would sound as if it might be RED's answer to Sony's SxS - a high-efficiency ExpressCard solidstate memory card.

What a good bit of insight. This has to be the case. At the moment RED are pushing CF to the limit, surely with express cards (SXS) they will have more bandwidth headroom.
Harrison Diamond
08-17-2008, 09:57 PM
There are plenty of options, but the biggest problem in a desktop computer is that they are usually implemented as a PCIexpress expansion card, which means the slot is on the back.

Like this for example: http://www.amtron.com/reader/pcie101.htm

Thanks for that, it's a big help. I've sold my laptop with ExpressCard/34 but I do have one or two cards that I may as well use in my tower...cheaper to buy a $25 adapter for expresscards than another $100+ eSATA card or FireWire card.