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Evin Grant
09-06-2008, 04:37 PM
This question is most likely for Stuart...
Can you plug in two Red LCDs? Say a 5" and the new 7". I've had a few operators ask about this, my guess is no but I'd like to find out. Thanks.
E.

Tico Llaurador
09-06-2008, 05:02 PM
I've wondered about that myself, since I didn't take well to the EVF. Thanks for asking, brother EG.

Stuart English
09-06-2008, 06:26 PM
No, because the RED-LCD requires a scaler in the camera to convert 1280 x 848 to its smaller pixel count.

Use one RED-LCD plus an HD-SDI monitor..?

Pietro Impagliazzo
09-06-2008, 09:03 PM
Impossible to use a split cable to split the signal?

Stuart English
09-06-2008, 09:05 PM
Impossible to use a split cable to split the signal?

Not possible.

Evin Grant
09-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Bummer,
As I though though. Maybe in Epic you can add a firmware feature to switch between dual LCD and EVF+LCD? Just a thought.

Luis Otero
09-06-2008, 11:46 PM
Bummer,
As I though though. Maybe in Epic you can add a firmware feature to switch between dual LCD and EVF+LCD? Just a thought.

Why to wait for Epic? This can be done for Build 17...:sarcasm:

Zakaree Sandberg
09-06-2008, 11:49 PM
Not possible.

what about an adapter.. from one lcd to another?
would be split after sending to a set of one boards and then being re-routed out of an adapter which would then have a lemo that connect to the other lcd?
maybe a slight delay, but doubt it would be a noticable delay

Luis Otero
09-07-2008, 12:36 AM
what about an adapter.. from one lcd to another?
would be split after sending to a set of one boards and then being re-routed out of an adapter which would then have a lemo that connect to the other lcd?
maybe a slight delay, but doubt it would be a noticable delay

Build 17...!!':construction:

Jarred Land
09-07-2008, 09:34 AM
not going to happen in build 17 :)

Zakaree has actually an interesting idea..

Steve Freebairn
09-07-2008, 10:03 AM
The only thing I'm guessing we'd loose with 2 lcds is the button functionality of 1 of the lcds? Is that right?

Zakaree Sandberg
09-07-2008, 11:11 AM
not going to happen in build 17 :)

Zakaree has actually an interesting idea..

im a whiz kid.

Zakaree Sandberg
09-07-2008, 11:15 AM
The only thing I'm guessing we'd loose with 2 lcds is the button functionality of 1 of the lcds? Is that right?

nah.. the first lcd would def work (as far as buttons go)
the second might also work if you were able to reprogram the boards (with a build) that would accept a combination code. So you might hit the first button ,lets call it (A)on the second lcd, but it sends off the information (A+B).

Stuart English
09-07-2008, 12:19 PM
what about an adapter.. from one lcd to another?
would be split after sending to a set of one boards and then being re-routed out of an adapter which would then have a lemo that connect to the other lcd?
maybe a slight delay, but doubt it would be a noticable delay

Nope, not possible. Think power as well as video and control signals. Sorry.

Jarred Land
09-07-2008, 12:24 PM
heh heh heh.. oh well sorry Zak.. for what its worth.. i liked it :)

Zakaree Sandberg
09-07-2008, 01:26 PM
damn:)

Pietro Impagliazzo
09-07-2008, 02:22 PM
Add that to the Epic wishlist then...

:)

Tico Llaurador
09-07-2008, 02:47 PM
The idea of being able to connect another LCD off the EVF port (which I don't use) appeals to me.

Carl-August Savgård
09-07-2008, 02:48 PM
Wouldn't it be great to have a HD-SDI input on the RED Pro monitor.
or.
is there any possibility to have a special cable that is lemo (red lcd) and HDSDI and 12V aux power in the other end?

Luis Otero
09-07-2008, 04:09 PM
not going to happen in build 17 :)

OK, I agree to postpone it for Build 18...:tongue:

Zakaree Sandberg
09-07-2008, 04:15 PM
The idea of being able to connect another LCD off the EVF port (which I don't use) appeals to me.

I Know there is a scaling issue with evf/lcd.. but isnt this just a software pathway? or am i totally wrong (more likely) and this is a hardware path.. in which case, there is nothing we can do

Luis Otero
09-07-2008, 04:23 PM
I Know there is a scaling issue with evf/lcd.. but isnt this just a software pathway? or am i totally wrong (more likely) and this is a hardware path.. in which case, there is nothing we can do

Zakaree,

Throughout the development of Red One, many petitions were initially dismissed as "not possible". Today we have most of them implemented and working in an excellent way. So, let's not stop the conversation about this... We never know!!:weight_lift:

J. Eric Camp
09-08-2008, 06:48 AM
The splitter issue, as stated, is about signal strength, control signal and power.

Scaling from the EVF signal I believe could be software but then again there might only be so many scaler engines on board.

Maybe you could split the scaled video signal (hardware) and send it to both ports?

Zakaree Sandberg
09-21-2008, 12:50 PM
The splitter issue, as stated, is about signal strength, control signal and power.

Scaling from the EVF signal I believe could be software but then again there might only be so many scaler engines on board.

Maybe you could split the scaled video signal (hardware) and send it to both ports?

yes.
i want to keep pushing this. has to be possible..
either
a.) external splitter that would attatch via lemo to the back of one of the lcd's...
or...
b.) software option to switch the evf port to send another lcd signal..
if that port is already scaling down to enable the evf resolution.. the software update would just remove any scaling and thus the evf out would send an lcd signal..

George A.
09-22-2008, 05:49 AM
I subscribe to this.

It would be really helpful to be able to use two RED LCDs at the same time. For so many reasons...

Brook Willard
09-22-2008, 09:09 AM
Unless there's some hardware limitation onboard, it seems like the 1024x600 scale could be pumped to both the EVF and the LCD ports instead of pumping the 1280x848 scale to the EVF port separately from the LCD port.

There'd be just as much scaling going on [as the HD-SDI would still need a 720p scale], just different software pathways.

Right?

Medavoym
09-22-2008, 01:44 PM
There's gotta be a fix to this...

I don't like the viewfinder but I love the LCD. I would most definitely use two LCDs at the same time if RED comes up with a solution. Nothing is impossible.

Mike Prevette
09-22-2008, 06:38 PM
A Panni SDI monitor is a really solid purchase, and will come in handy for years. I'm all for flexibility, and it would be great to use both RED monitors at once, having a SDI monitor has it's benefits.

George A.
10-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Any progress on the idea of running two RED LCDs at the same time?

Peter Majtan
10-14-2008, 08:56 PM
A simple solution: Release a PRO-LCD-mkII with the same resolution as the EVF... :) I don't think anyone will complain...

EDIT: This would make it a B-16 feature... :) :) :)