So, is 1080p now up and running in Build 17?

[Stephen Pruitt]

I just moved to B17 and in reading the manual, it now appears as if HDMI and HD-SDI are able to kick out 1080p signals, with the HD-SDI at a true 4:4:4. I love this, but it means I need to run out and buy a new production monitor. Any thoughts on a good, low-priced 1080p HD-SDI-capable monitor for me?

Stephen

[Gunleik Groven]

No 1080p as you record. For playback it's been there since B16...

Would be great if the signal out the hdmi was a standard one....

[Stephen Pruitt]

What isn't standard about the HDMI signal???? I used HDMI from Build 15 for our video village, but I only had a 720p monitor. Do I need something special to use the HDMI at 1080p now? (I want to upgrade from 720 to 1080.)

Stephen

[Gunleik Groven]

If it worked then, it will work now.

The HDMI signal is not compatible with all HDMI devices. Seems to me that if you use a hdmi to DVI converter, DVI devices work just fine. You don't get menues and lookaround with that solution, but neither camera noe monitor crashes... :)

Haven't tried with 17 yet, but AFAIK this was not on the remedy list. I think the res on the HDMI output is the same as on the EVF... (???)

[Stephen Pruitt]

Okay. . . my confusion. . . this jump to 1080p is ONLY on playback, and not on monitoring while shooting. Bummer.

Stephen

[mikeburton]

If it worked then, it will work now.

The HDMI signal is not compatible with all HDMI devices. Seems to me that if you use a hdmi to DVI converter, DVI devices work just fine. You don't get menues and lookaround with that solution, but neither camera noe monitor crashes... :)

Haven't tried with 17 yet, but AFAIK this was not on the remedy list. I think the res on the HDMI output is the same as on the EVF... (???)

I have menus and lookaround from HDMI - DVI to my Dell 20' monitor in 720p. I know people are having issues with HDMI to HDMI 1080p televisions. Some are compatible and some aren't. I'm on build 16.2.5

[Stuart English]

There are some issues being reported with 1080p HDMI to 1080 HDTV's. We are investigating the cause of that.

As a general statement the 1280 x 720p and 1280 x 848 outputs work fine, although there may be some exceptions to that.

And you will get menus if you select DVI (menus) and feed the HDMI output to a DVI equipped computer monitor.

[Gunleik Groven]

Ah... My bad. Thanks Stuart!

[mikeburton]

There are some issues being reported with 1080p HDMI to 1080 HDTV's. We are investigating the cause of that.

As a general statement the 1280 x 720p and 1280 x 848 outputs work fine, although there may be some exceptions to that.

And you will get menus if you select DVI (menus) and feed the HDMI output to a DVI equipped computer monitor.

That's exactly what I do to veiw the lookaround and menus on my 20' Dell for preveiw monitor.

[Uli Plank]

Same here with computer monitors.
But some professional video monitors don't seem to like a true progressive signal, they probably expect PSF. Maybe some converters too?

[Steven-Marc C.]

That's exactly what I do to veiw the lookaround and menus on my 20' Dell for preveiw monitor.

Mike, which 20" model do you use? Do you get 1:1 pixel mapping or does the image get distorted?

[david farland]

Stuart,

Can we expect 1080p live monitoring in the near future?

Is Red still planning on delivering 1080p live monitoring only when/if they release a dedicated 1080p RGB build?

Dave,

[Stuart English]

Is Red still planning on delivering 1080p live monitoring only when/if they release a dedicated 1080p RGB build?

Given the caveat that we constantly look for new ways to do things, providing 1080p live outputs during record requires that that camera is recording RGB.

[RivaiC]

There are some issues being reported with 1080p HDMI to 1080 HDTV's. We are investigating the cause of that.

As a general statement the 1280 x 720p and 1280 x 848 outputs work fine, although there may be some exceptions to that.

And you will get menus if you select DVI (menus) and feed the HDMI output to a DVI equipped computer monitor.

But you lost HD-SDI output when u switch do DVI menus. Is it improve on build 17 ?

[Dave Neathery]

If this will help: I bought a 46' Sony Bravia (KDL-46V3000) for use with my Reds. I have connected it to 4 different Reds spanning many builds. One thing is constant: It immediately locks up the camera and you can do nothing but power off and restart. (It does make a good monitor for my editor though.)
I also have tried a number of widescreen computer monitors, using HDMI to DVI converters. One did not work at all, (the first one I tried), one worked partly, (startup problems with the monitor) and the Acer P241WA works perfectly, so I keep one connected to each of my Reds.

Dave

[mikeburton]

Mike, which 20" model do you use? Do you get 1:1 pixel mapping or does the image get distorted?

This is the Dell Monitor I use http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5123

I bought it cause its really inexpensive at $219.00 and I use it for an on set monitor mostly when I am doing DMT on set. I hooked it up the other day to my RED and it works great in DVI (Camera Menu Option) mode through an HDMI to DVI cable. No distortion at all. Not the best monitor for post cause I must say the viewing angle on these is not that great but for set work it is light and fairly compact and does the trick. Although, I cannot do 1080p playback from the camera to this monitor. Haven't tried my new Samsung 46' 1080p TV although from what i've heard I'll be expecting a lockup possibly.

[Prem Edpuganti]

Reading all the comments, I am getting more and more concerned as the delivery of my Red is approaching. If it is of any help, the following is a quote from Red FAQ:

"Because of the varying standards of the “consumer based” HDMI protocol, not all computer monitors and televisions can accommodate the 1280 x 720 signal. Currently, the following monitors have been tested and recommended by REDUSERS as offering full screen display and menus:

* Westinghouse L2410NM
* HP w2007
* Sony KDL26S3000 26″
* Dell 2405
* Gateway FHD2400 24″ "

I have the Westinghouse L2410NM monitor but no camera to test it.

[jimhare]

Don't be concerned, it shouldn't change your decision to buy the RED. For less than $300 you know you can get a 24" DELL that definitely works, even if you find yours doesn't.

RED works great on my 42" LG LCD via HDMI in full 1080p. There are definitely working solutions.

[Joe D'Arcy]

Hi Jim. I'm having a brain dead day. I need some assistance. Can you tell me how to start a new thread?

[jimhare]

Hey Bodhi. Go to the actual area you want to post in, not THREADS FROM LAST DAY, and select NEW THREAD which you will find near the top left of screen.

For example:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=18
is the Apple workflow and you will see the NEW THREAD button.

[Joe D'Arcy]

Thanks Jim.

[Joseph Ward]

Given the caveat that we constantly look for new ways to do things, providing 1080p live outputs during record requires that that camera is recording RGB.

Is that a No?
I hope this doesn't become a Clue joke. lol :)

[Sven Seynaeve]

I hope the output will be enabled while shooting in full 1080, otherwise I have to go another route for what i'm intending to do...

[sander kamp]

If this will help: I bought a 46' Sony Bravia (KDL-46V3000) for use with my Reds. I have connected it to 4 different Reds spanning many builds. One thing is constant: It immediately locks up the camera and you can do nothing but power off and restart. (It does make a good monitor for my editor though.)

Same thing here with a 46" 1080p Samsung tv. Camera locks up and no button is responding anymore. Have to power off by unplugging the power cable.

[Esteban Sosnitsky]

Yesterday we tried with my friend Fauna from this forum a bunch of monitors on a store. We hooked up a 15ft HDMI to HDMI cable with a HDMI to DVI converter. We tried both 720P and MENU DVI outputs on preview mode. The 720P worked on most monitors, we got a live preview of the camera with a sort of information on the lower part of the screen showing the title of the menu. On the MENU DVI side, we got absolutely nothing... We tried Viewsonic, LG and Samsung,(1440x900 and 1680x1050) And no luck at all, not only we didnt see the ASA or frame rate, the monitor stated "No signal detected". I heard some had luck with an LG or DELL, and as I looked for their specs I found no big difference between those and the ones I tried here locally. What could be going on? Any help? Thanks.

[Stuart English]

Yesterday we tried with my friend Fauna from this forum a bunch of monitors on a store. We hooked up a 15ft HDMI to HDMI cable with a HDMI to DVI converter. We tried both 720P and MENU DVI outputs on preview mode. The 720P worked on most monitors, we got a live preview of the camera with a sort of information on the lower part of the screen showing the title of the menu. On the MENU DVI side, we got absolutely nothing... We tried Viewsonic, LG and Samsung,(1440x900 and 1680x1050) And no luck at all, not only we didnt see the ASA or frame rate, the monitor stated "No signal detected". I heard some had luck with an LG or DELL, and as I looked for their specs I found no big difference between those and the ones I tried here locally. What could be going on? Any help? Thanks.

A consumer HDTV is not going to accept a 1280 x 848 pixel display, so you will need to connect to a P.C monitor via a HDMI to DVI cable.

LG brand computer monitors seem to work very well in my experience, just have the MONITOR output HD-SDI setting at 59.94 not 50.00

[Mitch Martinez]

I just picked up an HP w2007 computer monitor per the approved monitors list and have a weird "jitter" for everything on the monitor when the camera is set to MONITOR/menus (DVI)/HD-SDI 59.94 while outputting HDMI to DVI-D. Everything on the screen is shaking (image, text, center cursor, etc.); the image is stable when set to Video (720p). Checked my connections, re-read through the operations guide, and did a handful of searches on RedUser but didn't find any info about that sort of issue.

Anybody have this issue? Thoughts? Suggestions? Some settings that I missed?

[Dennis Guskov]

Where did you guys find the approved monitors list?!
I can't find it!

[Mitch Martinez]

Where did you guys find the approved monitors list?!
I can't find it!

http://www.red.com/faq/will-any-hdmi-monitor-or-tv-work-for-monitoring-output/

[Esteban Sosnitsky]

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20144