Che on RedRay!!

[Giancarlo Bianchi]

Just saw che the other day, and I was thinking that when it was realeased I`ll buy the DVD or Blueray. But they I tought, Why not on Red Ray?
As long as I know, there are more than 5,000 reds out there, and noone knows how many scarletes will there be, so I guess that`s almost a Red Ray device for camera.

So, as I hope I`ll have one when it is released, It would be nice to acquire RED projects, maybe from the RED store, or a sub-redstore.

I think it would be a good idea to distribute RED project on Red ray, So the market of the Red Ray Units could also expand to the "home teathers", and not just media related.

Anyway, All I know is if Che, The argentine, is released on RedRay, I`ll be gladly getting it for the pleasure of my sight. Does Anyone agree?

Jim, if you havent tought about it, please do! You already have that bomb on your hands so use it at full capacity. Just my 2c

[Noah Kadner]

I think we're a ways off from that when Blu-Ray itself is still barely 10% market share and that's with support of all major studios and hardware manufacturers.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Bluray_market_share_creeps_up_or_down_to_8_percent/1222372337

-Noah

[Brandon Fraley]

While it's certainly possible, I think RED Ray is intended as a production and exhibition device, rather than a mainstream consumer player.

Could happen, but i think it will be a long time before movies are "released" on RED RAY.

[Giancarlo Bianchi]

Well, yes I have heard the news, I know that on paper BlueRay is exciting, but for the things I have seen its not wort the price of the player, neither the BRdisc. I`ve seen on stores the same DVD motion compression on BlueRay discs, so I`m still skeptic of this technology. Either way, as I can recall RedRay is 4k, maybe going to 5k for epic footage (or you might get a RedRay pro for that).

Anyway, the RedRay store, could be another "income" for Red, so if it is only the 1% of a market that makes over $152.2 million (http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=Gsmr2XHMIc9g6ZCkY8Bb6QXSinq o6YIL4rrhsE%2Fjz78rQfgXgp6RrFFYt0cSSjMW46k%2FxGMPl XiG%0AD86pwcbJdbYnHAeAWd2COVjO6vAXLmuy8WsxJUWUP5Kt hLqagDIzA87YN4DJhrTTqQBcshQKgPa3%0AXbhmIuJIGYXvR3O Uk%2BvFJqZML5LgZvKKQdudiOlftZW5RJ0q44y%2Ft%2BQFJMo dlcXEh0Wz6w3Fv6eP%0As7RaPjcSNGmogZUa8ZL8OugGZXd0DF lAjuS9xm3%2BltPRCbNQGKaA%2FrngqQrpct%2BYa7eeELNDmP Ii%0ASsCW%2FE0gQ2J5B8sNhg%2FOqcHGyXW2JxwHgFndgjlYz urwFy5rIDhGr6LPayk%3D) a year, I think is wort the try.

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

I suggest that RED scratch all optical media from REDRAY's specs and go with solid state options all the way. :)

And it will become smaller this way.

[Giancarlo Bianchi]

While it's certainly possible, I think RED Ray is intended as a production and exhibition device, rather than a mainstream consumer player.

Could happen, but i think it will be a long time before movies are "released" on RED RAY.

Well, It was also supossed that you could only get a camera like Red from a rental house, and now its owned by quite some private users, users that may also be Red Ray owners, that as cinematographers and movie-addicts like to watch Movies at the best quality you can get. Heck, I even have a couple of friends (not in the industry) that are cinephiles, that wouldnt mind paying around $2,000 for a high quality player and around $30 per movie.

Anyway, if the possibility exhists, It could be a good income for Red, and even Indie filmakers, by selling their projects "supported" by the red store.

It may be something like this "red.com/store/redrayflicks. There, you could download a trailer or a link to vimeo (or sort of page), and if you like what you see, order the movie.

Anyway, the RedRay price could drop down really bad if it can reach a wider market, then for production and exhibition, we will always have RedRay Pro (now playing 20k coming on NAB 2012). :biggrin:

[Noah Kadner]

Well, yes I have heard the news, I know that on paper BlueRay is exciting, but for the things I have seen its not wort the price of the player, neither the BRdisc. I`ve seen on stores the same DVD motion compression on BlueRay discs, so I`m still skeptic of this technology. .

I'm watching Blu-Rays at home on a 720p Panasonic projector-
http://www.projectorcentral.com/panasonic_ax100.htm

and they look better than most theatrical 35mm film presentations I've watched recently. :)

Not saying RedRay can't make it as a distribution method just saying it would take a lot to make it happen. More than anything I think all physical media will disappear in favor of downloadables ultimately. That's kinda happened already if you are a fan of the iTunes movie store and the like.

Noah

[Giancarlo Bianchi]

I'm watching Blu-Rays at home on a 720p Panasonic projector
and they look better than most theatrical 35mm film presentations I've watched recently. :)

Gotta give it a try then, the things I have seen on Stores TVs look very DVDish....


Not saying RedRay can't make it as a distribution method just saying it would take a lot to make it happen. More than anything I think all physical media will disappear in favor of downloadables ultimately. That's kinda happened already if you are a fan of the iTunes movie store and the like.

Noah

Call me old fashion, but I`m also what you may call a collectionist, I like owning the media with a printed cover, I know its somehow silly, but I like stacking by Dvds, BR, RR... or wathever on the shelf. Downloadable is good, but if that`s the future, I`ll surely miss physical media.

Anyway, as someone working on the media, downloadable also means "shareable". Yeah, you could also rip a DVD or BlueRay, or whatever that comes next, but if in the future downloading is the only distribution, paying and sharing would be just a matter of end user ethics.

[Noah Kadner]

Anyway, as someone working on the media, downloadable also means "shareable". Yeah, you could also rip a DVD or BlueRay, or whatever that comes next, but if in the future downloading is the only distribution, paying and sharing would be just a matter of end user ethics.

And therein lies the rub or DRM if you will.

Noah

[Brandon Fraley]

I'm watching Blu-Rays at home on a 720p Panasonic projector-
http://www.projectorcentral.com/panasonic_ax100.htm

and they look better than most theatrical 35mm film presentations I've watched recently. :)


Noah, how large are you projecting? I watch dvd on an InFocus 4805 at about 110" but you can tell it's not meant to to display that large. Stuff falls on into black quicker and there's a general desaturation. It still looks good, but if you push it in closer you can see that there's more detail in the blacks and more vibrant colors.

I've been looking at new projectors since I got my RED, but your projector is a couple years old so I figure i can get it cheaper if I have your recommendation :)

[Noah Kadner]

Noah, how large are you projecting? I watch dvd on an InFocus 4805 at about 110" but you can tell it's not meant to to display that large. Stuff falls on into black quicker and there's a general desaturation. It still looks good, but if you push it in closer you can see that there's more detail in the blacks and more vibrant colors.

I've been looking at new projectors since I got my RED, but your projector is a couple years old so I figure i can get it cheaper if I have your recommendation :)

Hi Brandon-

I use a 120" Panoview Grey Wolf screen that I got at Best Buy. This is absolutely key. I had a 480p Infocus X1 several years ago that I used to project just on a white wall. This is a night and day difference in image sharpness, contrast etc- of course SD to HD but also the screen really sharpens it up and keeps the image on the screen rather than mushy light all over the room.

Like I mentioned it looks better than most theatrical projections I've been to- no gate wave, no edge softness or dimming, scratches, pumping, etc. It really shines at Blu-Ray from my Sony BDP-S300 player (http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2007/06/review-sony-bdp-s300-blu-ray-player/). We also play HD from the iTunes Store via a DVI-HDMI cable that let's us project 1920x1080 at 60hz from a MacBook Pro. RED 1080p ProRes and H.264 clips also look sweet going that route. It's also very quiet- we sit right behind the projector mounted flat on a stand and you rarely notice the fan on during even the quietest scenes. My old Infocus was like a small wind tunnel by comparison.

The S300 also upconverts SD DVDs and as long as they're 16:9 some look almost as good as some Blu-Rays. It's really like having a home movie theater.

It looks best especially when the room is close to dark though it's bright enough(just barely) to use in daytime as well. The 1000 is great but it's two generations behind these days. If I had to buy today and had the extra scratch I might go for the full 1080p AE2000:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Panasonic_Home-PT-AE2000U.htm

or the just announced 3000:

http://www.i4u.com/article20129.html

-Noah