View Full Version : which monitor to use on the field?
Karim Iglesias
04-23-2007, 07:57 PM
what scheme of interfase device and monitor do you recomend?
i have a dell 24" 1920X 1080
can i use it with some adapter to get 1080 fro the HD-SDI output of the camera
Thanks
Nathan Troutman
04-23-2007, 08:23 PM
The camera has an HDMI port. I'm not sure what resolution it is sending out via the HDMI port but an HDMI to DVI cable would connect your monitor to the camera. I'm also interested to know if the on-screen information that would be displayed on the on-camera LCD or EVF will also be sent out on the HD-SDI and/or HDMI outputs?
AJSchmidt
04-23-2007, 08:24 PM
I have been using a AJA converter for field work for years on my sony f900. I use the HDP. It converts hd-sdi to dvi. They have one that dose the same thing to HDMI so you can skip the cable.
http://www.aja.com/html/products_converters_HDP.html
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Nathan Troutman
04-23-2007, 08:38 PM
Nice suggestion, but since RED has an HDMI port why convert the HD-SDI output with a converter box when an HDMI to DVI cable it so cheap and easy - if you can deal with a cable run under 50 feet?
Wade McDonald
04-23-2007, 08:48 PM
I've used a Blackmagic HDLink (HDSDI -> DVI-D) for a while now, even running with it on for several days straight... You can use it with any 23" monitor by any manufacturer, and use the USB port on it to help fine-tune color calibration. That, plus the RED's internal LUTs, should be plenty good.
At NAB I did see a very very impressive monitor by Cine-Tal that would be ideal -- down to its own LUTs, a framestore, and eithernet abilities, etc.. (imagine popping a still off of your monitor and sending it straight to the client via email during the shoot... on second thought...maybe not.) but the price tag is waay too high. For that price, I could shockmount a Mac Pro with a Kona and a 23" display and offer on-set REDCINE and FCP work.
my $.02
W
Finner
04-23-2007, 09:00 PM
Nice suggestion, but since RED has an HDMI port why convert the HD-SDI output with a converter box when an HDMI to DVI cable it so cheap and easy - if you can deal with a cable run under 50 feet?
Any links and prices on these cables? Any idea what the picture ends up looking like?
Nathan Troutman
04-23-2007, 09:18 PM
Any links and prices on these cables? Any idea what the picture ends up looking like?
Well, for the super cheap end check out Monoprice.com
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&style=
for a 22AWG 50 ft. cable it's $86.57. HDMI to DVI is a "consumer" cable not a "pro" cable like HD-SDI. I know from personal home use HDMI loves to not stay plugged in, but with RED having an HDMI output it does allow you to monitor with fairly inexpensive LCD Hi-res computer monitors (a 24" ultrasharp from dell is $680 brand new and will do 1080HD.) As far as what the image looks like, it's digital. The signal will either get there or not. How it looks will depends on the display you connect it to. Since we're shooting RAW color isn't critical since you can just change it in post when you have a quality monitor to judge it by. One of the things that get's me excited (especially coming from the low to no budget indie film area) is the ability to use RAW to make crucial color, curves, white balance, etc. decision in the controlled environment of a studio instead of during the organized chaos of a set shooting 14 hour days with limited crew.
Jim Arthurs
04-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Nice suggestion, but since RED has an HDMI port why convert the HD-SDI output with a converter box when an HDMI to DVI cable it so cheap and easy
My understanding is that the HDMI outs on the camera are limited to 720p (but can have camera info supered over for the video village).
Converting from the HD-SDI outs via an AJA or HDLink would give you full 1080p in 4:2:2 or dual link 4:4:4.
Nathan Troutman
04-23-2007, 09:44 PM
My understanding is that the HDMI outs on the camera are limited to 720p (but can have camera info supered over for the video village).
Converting from the HD-SDI outs via an AJA or HDLink would give you full 1080p in 4:2:2 or dual link 4:4:4.
I hope this is all true. If it is, you have to great video out options and having the camera info on the frame is also nice - (any chance of framing guides also sent supered over the video?)