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Sean
10-02-2008, 01:16 PM
Interesting to speak to a very experienced producer today who reacted with some concern over the prospect of shooting Red. You know, the usual myths and rumours about no workflow and camera glitches. (We've been happily shooting with Red on several projects without any of the aforementioned problems.)

Then, this very same day I read this:

We've recently completed a short that suffered a scratch to the negative. Unfortunately re-shooting is not an option. We are looking for someone to paint out the scratch in about 10 shots.

I just thought it was an interesting point of contrast. You know, how this "new Red technology" is supposedly risky, while people forget that the old technology is not foolproof by any stretch. I mean, who hasn't heard about the 35mm shoot where someone screws up and the whole film was shot underexposed. Interesting to see how the mythology evolves.

Tico Llaurador
10-02-2008, 01:56 PM
I guess this deserves a replay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvZZNwDnJuk

:clown2:

Stephen Williams
10-02-2008, 02:03 PM
We've recently completed a short that suffered a scratch to the negative. Unfortunately re-shooting is not an option. We are looking for someone to paint out the scratch in about 10 shots.
.

Hi,

Using the Cintel scanner quite severe scratches vanish in real time. There is always FUD, I have never had fogging, scratched negative or any issues shoting on 35mm in the last 25 years.

Stephen

jimhare
10-02-2008, 02:18 PM
I guess this deserves a replay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvZZNwDnJuk

:clown2:

I'll never get tired of this clip! :biggrin:

Steve Sherrick
10-02-2008, 02:34 PM
Hi,

Using the Cintel scanner quite severe scratches vanish in real time. There is always FUD, I have never had fogging, scratched negative or any issues shoting on 35mm in the last 25 years.

Stephen

You're on a pretty good streak there Stephen. I'd knock on the closest piece of wood you have around you. :)

Charles Angus
10-02-2008, 03:45 PM
If you're careful, film is as close to foolproof as it gets.

Andrew Martin
10-02-2008, 03:47 PM
If you're careful, film is as close to foolproof as it gets.

You haven't worked with the fools I have. Needless to say wont be working with them again.

Andrew.

Clint Johnson
10-02-2008, 04:10 PM
The CML-General list currently buzzing about a weird fogging of a film reel where it starts out that the the shadows and blacks are very red and then the red gradually invades the entire image to the point where it looks like it has been flashed.

It's like you're replacing the sensor every time you take a frame and you have no idea on the quality of that sensor... not until the scene has been shot and the production has moved on.

Film is just insanely uncertain and risky in my mind.:whistling: