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Tom Lowe
10-06-2008, 09:09 PM
If the camera comes in only weighing a pound or two, near the size of a full-frame DSLR, what would be a really great (hopefully affordable) option for flying it?

Steven M. Bailey
10-06-2008, 10:15 PM
Has any one used the u-flycam. Its a cheap Indian knockoff but it could be useful for a light weight camera.

Peter Majtan
10-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Hey Tom, on a more serious note the Glidecam X-10 would be perfect for both DSMC & Scarlet (maybe even a light-weight Epic config):

http://www.glidecam.com/product-x-10.php

http://www.glidecam.com/img/prd/md/x-10.jpg

At $2400,- it is not too expensive... :)

Steven M. Bailey
10-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Does it come with the operator?:whistling: :watsup: :shifty:

The one I was asking about is like $109.00 on ebay. Most truly cheap things are crap. but I'm curious. :gun:

Tom Lowe
10-06-2008, 11:26 PM
Is there anything along the lines of the Glidecam X-10 but smaller? Maybe something a little lighter, that I could hike up a hill with or whatever.

Has anyone ever tried putting a little Kenyan Labs gyro onto a handheld thingy like blownapartstudios posted?

Priyesh P.
10-06-2008, 11:34 PM
since we don`t know anything about form factor, weight or anything else about the DSMC I`d definately suggest this : http://www.tiffen.com/userimages/SteadicamUltra2_0407.pdf

:-)

Peter Majtan
10-07-2008, 09:42 AM
Is there anything along the lines of the Glidecam X-10 but smaller? Maybe something a little lighter, that I could hike up a hill with or whatever.

Has anyone ever tried putting a little Kenyan Labs gyro onto a handheld thingy like blownapartstudios posted?

I have modified the Smooth Shooter (The smallest one with $1.5K pricetag http://www.glidecam.com/product-smooth-shooter.php) with Kenyon's for light-weight heli shooting:

http://www.glidecam.com/img/prd/md/smooth_shooter_2000_pro.jpg

http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/DERYL/Theatre%20Coatzacoalcos%20www/SSgyroA_7376.jpg

http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/DERYL/Theatre%20Coatzacoalcos%20www/SSgyroB_7389.jpg

http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/DERYL/Theatre%20Coatzacoalcos%20www/SSgyroC_7398.jpg

The rig is super light-weight - even if it looks heavy. The only heavy part are the gyro's and their batteries (which I wear on my belt, or in the case of heli shoot - I put them on the floor of the heli). I have mounted small LCD monitor directly on the west - this seems to work the best. The main advantage for such a rig is that it doesn't require FAA approval as nothing is physically attached to the helicopter. Another benefit is that I can use any light-weight heli, such as the above Robinson R-44, which are a lot cheaper and therefore I can offer my client affordable package. It might all look ridiculous, and some may laugh a little, but what matters is the end result:

http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/DERYL/Theatre%20Coatzacoalcos%20www/Theatre%20Coatzacoalcos%20www-desktop.m4v

When I showed the final footage some even believed I have used Tyler mount...

Right now I am building a body-mounted rig for Red One (and other RED cameras) that is a lot stronger to support up to 10kg. You will need to be fit to handle it, but same goes for Steadicam. Again - the idea is to rent any available helicopter without the need for FAA approval...

We will be exhibiting our new range of accessories at NAB next year. See You there...

Tom Lowe
10-07-2008, 09:56 AM
That is awesome, Peter. That's what I'm talking about.

What is the max weight for a camera on that particular rig in the photos?

Also, are you going to have all this equipment with you at your place in Vegas? :)

Peter Majtan
10-07-2008, 11:16 AM
It can handle up to 5 lbs. If You mount the gyros as counter-weight, You can handle up to 10 lbs... I don't think I will be bringing it to the USA, as it was a nightmare to get it to Mexico. I have to fly up in person to USA, and bring it through the customs (declared). Plus my guys here (in Mexico) will continue to use it. As I've said however, I'll be building new, more advanced rig in Las Vegas. There will be a super-light-weight version for Scarlet and one more robust for Red One & Epic. So far I have no clue how heavy the DSMC is going to be, maybe it will fit on the Scarlet rig. The same rigs can be used when shooting from other moving platforms, such as cars, boats, etc...

The good news for You Tom is that I will be finalizing my "Baraka" timelapse/moco rig in Las Vegas. I could have it ready for the November trip... :)

Tom Lowe
10-07-2008, 11:45 AM
Yes! Will it have shutter sync "shoot-move-shoot" with a 2.5mm stereo minijack so I can throw my DSLR on it!? :)

Peter Majtan
10-07-2008, 12:42 PM
Long exposures might be an issue, but we can work on that... :)
Let's see what DSMC has in store for us...