View Full Version : RED Epic and Scarlet...
Jannard
10-13-2008, 01:57 PM
There is a lot of info coming early in November, but I thought until that time I might "leak" some info along the way.
1st piece of news is that the target startup time for both models is... drum roll, please... 2 seconds.
Owning a RED ONE will be of great importance as we move forward.
That's all for now.
Jim
number6
10-13-2008, 02:01 PM
There is a lot of info coming early in November, but I thought until that time I might "leak" some info along the way.
1st piece of news is that the target startup time for both models is... drum roll, please... 2 seconds.
Owning a RED ONE will be of great importance as we move forward.
That's all for now.
Jim
So, does that mean ouning two RED ONES will be even more important, or only marginally important. More info please.
Jay A. Kelley
10-13-2008, 02:02 PM
Jim will Epic be able to use RED One's EVF and LCD?
My goal behind the question is to get an idea how far beyond Epic's body I will have to go to get where I am currently with my RED. I want Epic, but it's going to hurt, and I don' t expect the economy to be 100% when you roll them out.
Jay
Damien Molineaux
10-13-2008, 02:06 PM
2 seconds as in TWO SECONDS !?!
Now why did I buy that Actionproducts swappack for again...
That's fast, way beyond fast. When will we be able to see that at home, or any Scarlet or Epic start up time for that matter ?
Cheers,
Damien
Steve Freebairn
10-13-2008, 02:11 PM
Great news! I think that what Jim is hinting at about the comments about owning a RED One is that they'll take orders from people with RED One's before they take them from the general public. I'm sure it will go from serial order number on the RED One, which is good because it rewards those that believed in RED before it proved itself.
Cory Schulthies
10-13-2008, 02:12 PM
fantastic, only 2 seconds is Great!
"Owning a RED ONE will be of great importance as we move forward."
Does that mean just until we trade in for the EPIC, or would it be beneficial to not trade in the RED ONE?
Simon Valderrama
10-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Owning a RED ONE will be of great importance as we move forward.
... like the taste of this one!
Brad Olsen
10-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Owning a RED ONE will be of great importance as we move forward.
More support for the early adapters is a kind move, I tip my hat to you sir!
But we'll be cool if we just have one or two Scarlets right? The "great importance" kinda scares me...
Jannard
10-13-2008, 02:15 PM
Our current EVF and LCDs will work with Epic and Scarlet.
Jim
Lewis-M Soucy
10-13-2008, 02:17 PM
Ha! :) I loves those threads... We are sooo going to be in that good old "pre-NAB 08" boiling forum anytime soon!... Oh gosh... Can't wait for Nooov-M-buuur...
Peter Majtan
10-13-2008, 02:18 PM
Speechless...
My hat is down for You YOJIMBO-san - yet once again... :)
Adam C Lubkin
10-13-2008, 02:18 PM
sweet! (on both counts)
Peter Majtan
10-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Our current EVF and LCDs will work with Epic and Scarlet.
Jim
YEEEHHAAAAAAA!!!
Please don't stop, we are all ears... :w00t:
Jay A. Kelley
10-13-2008, 02:21 PM
Our current EVF and LCDs will work with Epic and Scarlet.
Jim
Excellent, thank you. I'm very excited about the upgrade.
Truth be told, it's really pretty amazing isn't it? I am using a RED One and will be able to "sell" it for 100% of it's purchase value a year or more later.
Never in my adult life have I been given a deal like that.
Jim, is there a cut off time to this deal, or does a person who buys a RED one 3 weeks from now still get the upgrade. I would think you cannot do this trade up forever.
Jay
By the way, my RED is symbolic of a chance I took on an unknown company long long ago. It shows me that trusting someone else's dream can pay off.. No matter how good the Epic deal is, it will be very hard for me to let go of my RED
KETCH ROSSi
10-13-2008, 02:30 PM
Okay,
time to get few RED's back ... or buy new ones:)
ciao
Jannard
10-13-2008, 02:32 PM
RED ONE owners have priority...
RED ONE owners can trade their R1s in on an Epic for full $17,500 credit. (If you plan on owning an Epic, get your hands on a RED ONE... shoot it for free).
RED ONE owners can keep their R1 and upgrade the sensor for a fee (after Epics are shipping).
RED ONE owners can keep their R1 just as it is.
Lots of options. More when we announce.
Jim
Shawn Booth
10-13-2008, 02:35 PM
Just gets better and better and better....
Could you be any cooler?
Steve Freebairn
10-13-2008, 02:38 PM
Our current EVF and LCDs will work with Epic and Scarlet.
Jim
By saying current EVF and LCD are you hinting that there will also be a new EVF and LCD? Like an EVF Pro that is lighter weight and 1080p?
Jannard
10-13-2008, 02:38 PM
By saying current EVF and LCD are you hinting that there will also be a new EVF and LCD? Like an EVF Pro that is lighter weight and 1080p?
I'm not hinting anything... try not to guess. :-)
At some point, everything will get upgraded. What matters is that what you have... works.
Jim
Richard Goodwin
10-13-2008, 02:40 PM
VERY Exciting!
Will this early Nov. set of announcements include info about the DSMC you are planning?
Ken Chan
10-13-2008, 02:42 PM
What about the DSMC, will info be coming in early November too?
Mark L. Pederson
10-13-2008, 02:43 PM
There is a lot of info coming early in November, but I thought until that time I might "leak" some info along the way.
1st piece of news is that the target startup time for both models is... drum roll, please... 2 seconds.
Owning a RED ONE will be of great importance as we move forward.
That's all for now.
Jim
I like Jim.
Raul Gonzo
10-13-2008, 02:44 PM
Will Red One owners get first stab at Scarlets?
Gert-Jan
10-13-2008, 02:46 PM
Our current EVF and LCDs will work with Epic and Scarlet.
Jim
If you say that the current LCDs and EVF work with Epic Scarlet, will this mean that the $3k pricetag of Scarlet is of the roadmap (I know that was already announced, but we would be surprised :wink: ), since those items would be almost the price of one 'initial priced' Scarlet, or are there going to be cheaper LCDs and EVF specific for the Scarlet to keep it's price around the proposed $3k.
I'm not saying that you're not allowed to do what you want, but Scarlet for $3k was my only hope on replacing my Sony HDR-SR11 for an 'epic' price/performance.
So in short: The first plans for Scarlet were $3k, all in with LCD etc. Is Scarlet still going to be ready to shoot for $3k or should save more money to get started?
Shawn Bannon
10-13-2008, 02:48 PM
Awesome News. Thank You.
Jannard
10-13-2008, 02:49 PM
Will Red One owners get first stab at Scarlets?
Yes.
Jim
NormLi
10-13-2008, 02:51 PM
RED ONE owners have priority...
RED ONE owners can keep their R1 and upgrade the sensor for a fee.
Jim
Oh, question, upgrade the sensor to an "epic" sensor? What is the main difference between keeping the R1 and upgrading the R1 sensor and the brand new Epic? I know there are far more features on the Epic but just regarding the sensor...
Norm
Emery Wells
10-13-2008, 02:51 PM
RED ONE, best investment I've ever made.
-E
Jannard
10-13-2008, 02:52 PM
Both RED Epic and Scarlet have changed. I think you will be quite surprised at what we have done. I said in an earlier post that "the market had changed". I didn't mean that others have changed the market... I meant that we had with these two models. That will be much clearer early November.
Jim
Michael Ragen
10-13-2008, 02:56 PM
Great news about Scarlet and Epic being able to use the lcd and evf!
Pawel Achtel
10-13-2008, 02:56 PM
Exciting, huh! Can't wait for the announcements.
César Díez
10-13-2008, 02:56 PM
i´m waiting for epic ... but I don´t know if I will be able to afford the money... because I don´t know any estimated price....
so, now, I can go for red one for trade in for epic (this is what I want ... but this has some risk :turned: ) or ask you jim...
please, epic estimated price?
Sanjin Jukic
10-13-2008, 02:58 PM
Thanks Jim.
Great and very good news.
Jannard
10-13-2008, 02:59 PM
Oh, question, upgrade the sensor to an "epic" sensor? What is the main difference between keeping the R1 and upgrading the R1 sensor and the brand new Epic? I know there are far more features on the Epic but just regarding the sensor...
Norm
A RED ONE can have a sensor upgrade (sometime after Epic ships), but it will NOT have the specs of an Epic. The specs have everything to do with the sensor AND the boards.
Jim
Christian Berg
10-13-2008, 03:03 PM
Jim you say "target of 2 seconds", is this something you allready know or guess? So nice if you can do it!!! Great work as allways.
number6
10-13-2008, 03:04 PM
Both RED Epic and Scarlet have changed. I think you will be quite surprised at what we have done. I said in an earlier post that "the market had changed". I didn't mean that others have changed the market... I meant that we had with these two models. That will be much clearer early November.
Jim
"BOTH" RED Epic and Scarlet have changed?
Cüneyt Kaya
10-13-2008, 03:06 PM
guess i should take a look for reds under serial 500 to get asap epic...but i guess this time between red6 and red2000 will not be 9 months
Jannard
10-13-2008, 03:07 PM
"BOTH" RED Epic and Scarlet have changed?
I have previously posted both "Scarlet has Changed" and "Epic has Changed" threads...
Jim
NormLi
10-13-2008, 03:08 PM
Woohoo...serial #117 for me :)
Michael Moreno
10-13-2008, 03:11 PM
Jim, so greatful for this, and im curious, will swapping the audio board and cf module in my red one be necessary if i trade for epic and its around the time im invited to get updated red one.
just curious.
i know it might not be easy to answer with no epic eta
thank you for everything
red rewarded investor
Meryem Ersoz
10-13-2008, 03:11 PM
2 sec. startup time is outstanding...
very much looking forward to all of the innovations.
i'm getting increasingly attached to my RED ONEs, though, as soon as all the upgrade programs kick in, i may not want to trade in my babies. new battery chargers, new audio boards, new CF modules.
it's kinda like sprucing up your house before you sell, only to decide it's a pretty nice place to live after all.
naw, bring me an EPIC and a side order of SCARLET...
Lewis-M Soucy
10-13-2008, 03:12 PM
Dear Jim,
without "hinting" too much, and I know this will be huge, but a price tag on Epic would really help us call our banks ASAP and save time and stress when you start opening orders... Just a price tag? Puh-leaaase? :love:
Tom Lowe
10-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Jim, is there going to be DSMC news in November as well?
thanks!
Brian Chapman
10-13-2008, 03:16 PM
I can see that being good for people seeking to upgrade to EPIC.
But does that mean those of us indy filmmakers, who have been waiting to get involved with all things RED, will have to take a backburner to owning a SCARLET if Red One owners get first dibs to buy 2 or 4 each? (( or 12 if they're a rental house )).
I know I gripe about that point all the time. There are some of us who have been a part of the forums (even silently) since close to day one who can't afford to start off with a RED ONE and all the accessories for our first forays into directing and would hate to be sent to the back of the line on the camera that you guys are building so diligently FOR our type of filmmakers.
I do love what you guys are doing. Wish this level of tech could have happened years ago. But gratefully i'll be able to finally get into that side of filmmaking on my own for once and i'll owe it all to you guys. I've never seen this much company interaction with its clients for R&D and troubleshooting.
Just hate to be stuck at being camera order #6000 at the back of the pack while being first in line from the non-red owners. So if you are going to give RED owners a shot at it, will there be a cap on how many they can order in their first wave so the rest of us can be caught up to by 2010
-B
My 1.8 cents, and I won't rant about it again.
number6
10-13-2008, 03:17 PM
I have previously posted both "Scarlet has Changed" and "Epic has Changed" threads...
Jim
Yes, I remember now.
afterthought: Also just was wondering if the DSMC section of the forum will still be up after November?
dvpixl
10-13-2008, 03:18 PM
quick, make friends with a red owner!
Brian Chapman
10-13-2008, 03:20 PM
I apologize for re-asking about if scarlet owners would have first dibs (missed a page when you already answered it Jim).
Jerry Nichols
10-13-2008, 03:21 PM
Jim, :help: Please please make a LOT of Scarlets. I cannot afford a Red One yet :turned: but I am a believer. :biggrin: I hope to score a Red One as soon as possible but it looks like I will be a Scarlet owner before I am a Red One owner. Thank You!
Zach Nelson
10-13-2008, 03:21 PM
I love Jim & the Red team!
DaveT
10-13-2008, 03:22 PM
1st piece of news is that the target startup time for both models is... drum roll, please... 2 seconds.
Jim
Brilliant :-)
Jannard
10-13-2008, 03:22 PM
The wait for Scarlet will not be long. We plan to make MANY of them. Don't worry.
Jim
Daniel Reichenbach
10-13-2008, 03:23 PM
2 sec? The best news ever. 5K, more dynamic range, ok, i want them of course, but more important is NOT missing THE picture, because your camera is down and has to staaaaaaaaaaaaaart up veeeeeeeeeery slooooooooowly
Paul Hazlett
10-13-2008, 03:24 PM
I can see that being good for people seeking to upgrade to EPIC.
But does that mean those of us indy filmmakers, who have been waiting to get involved with all things RED, will have to take a backburner to owning a SCARLET if Red One owners get first dibs to buy 2 or 4 each? (( or 12 if they're a rental house )).
I know I gripe about that point all the time. There are some of us who have been a part of the forums (even silently) since close to day one who can't afford to start off with a RED ONE and all the accessories for our first forays into directing and would hate to be sent to the back of the line on the camera that you guys are building so diligently FOR our type of filmmakers.
I do love what you guys are doing. Wish this level of tech could have happened years ago. But gratefully i'll be able to finally get into that side of filmmaking on my own for once and i'll owe it all to you guys. I've never seen this much company interaction with its clients for R&D and troubleshooting.
Just hate to be stuck at being camera order #6000 at the back of the pack while being first in line from the non-red owners. So if you are going to give RED owners a shot at it, will there be a cap on how many they can order in their first wave so the rest of us can be caught up to by 2010
-B
My 1.8 cents, and I won't rant about it again.
I would not be too worried about this. Scarlett will not be the long Que
Red was, since the Red Team is a pretty smart group of folks and Jim has said previously that production of Scarlett will be in much greater numbers(parapharasing, of course) and I am sure initial limits to quantities purchased will be in place again as well .
dvpixl
10-13-2008, 03:25 PM
yeah, that should confirm it for a lot of us that Scarlet wont be this sudden market changing 35mm sensor of a little beast.
I will also eventually look to own a RED ONE as well. Jim is placing a lot of promise into the camera and it just seems like the right thing to do.
Raul Gonzo
10-13-2008, 03:25 PM
Jim, you just made my day =)
now, all I need to know (about Epic):
1. estimated $
2. how much time will I have to upgrade? (gotta save)
Jannard
10-13-2008, 03:26 PM
The only complaints Scarlet owners will have... "why can't we get Epic specs for 1/10th the price?". :-)
Jim
Mark L. Pederson
10-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Words can not express how excited I am for EpicS -
paradigmSHIFT
10-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Wow! Thank you for sending out this little bit of news today, Jim. You've just made my birthday that much more exciting!!!
Ken
SalaTar
10-13-2008, 03:28 PM
If all is true Jim Ill even Buy a few Scarlet's
(yes hell is cold)
Brian Chapman
10-13-2008, 03:29 PM
Same here Wood. I think the SCARLET is going to be the start on a whole new generation of filmmaking. Especially within the industry from various people who haven't been able to afford to get their feet wet before.
Imagine the SHOT ON RED list that will be in film festivals in 2010 if we get our indy hands on Scarlets.
Daniel Reichenbach
10-13-2008, 03:32 PM
Uiuiui, do we have to see all films, shot with Scarlet? ;-)
Brian Chapman
10-13-2008, 03:32 PM
I would not be too worried about this. Scarlett will not be the long Que
Red was, since the Red Team is a pretty smart group of folks and Jim has said previously that production of Scarlett will be in much greater numbers(parapharasing, of course) and I am sure initial limits to quantities purchased will be in place again as well .
Thanks for the reassurance Paul. Just looking forward to getting my paws on that camera. Working up a list of little mini-film ideas to get myself trained on the RED before I tackle my first feature film. Just get the fear i'll be so back in the list that I won't be able to shoot at the end of 2009 with it and have to push a year.
Raul Gonzo
10-13-2008, 03:32 PM
Thank you Jim. I love the hints ;)
Brad Olsen
10-13-2008, 03:33 PM
The only complaints Scarlet owners will have... "why can't we get Epic specs for 1/10th the price?". :-)
Jim
Yeah, why can't we? :-)
So is your post about orders for Scarlet being caught up by Fall 2009 still true? I could live with that!
I'm already having dreams about being at NAB and doing my best to be the first in line of a mob of people to place orders for a Scarlet.
dvpixl
10-13-2008, 03:33 PM
The wait for Scarlet will not be long. We plan to make MANY of them. Don't worry.
Jim
yayyy!
Peter Majtan
10-13-2008, 03:33 PM
The only complaints Scarlet owners will have... "why can't we get Epic specs for 1/10th the price?". :-)
Jim
Are You hinting that EPIC will drop it's price to $30K, or that Scarlet will rise up to $4K? :innocent:
Jannard
10-13-2008, 03:35 PM
Are You hinting that EPIC will drop it's price to $30K, or that Scarlet will rise up to $4K? :innocent:
You guys are killin' me... :-)
Jim
Sander de Regt
10-13-2008, 03:35 PM
So if owning a RED one helps in getting a Scarlet, I guess we'll be seeing a lot of soccer moms donning a RED one pretty soon, just to get a hold of a Scarlet when the time comes. Or are the soccer moms no longer part of the intended audience, now all attention has changed over to hockey moms.
The question of course is: how RED will the lipstick on the pig be when shooting Scarlet?
Time for bed. Clearly.
Peter Majtan
10-13-2008, 03:35 PM
You guys are killin' me... :-)
Jim
Sorry... :innocent:
Mark L. Pederson
10-13-2008, 03:36 PM
Are You hinting that EPIC will drop it's price to $30K, or that Scarlet will rise up to $4K? :innocent:
I like Peter.
Jason Diamond
10-13-2008, 03:40 PM
interested to see how this all unfolds...DSMC info as well please :)
Jannard
10-13-2008, 03:46 PM
What's a DSMC?
Jim
SalaTar
10-13-2008, 03:48 PM
"What's a DSMC?"
so the DSMC has been folded into another product?
Or has a name now?
Michael Ragen
10-13-2008, 03:49 PM
hmm...
Karl Gustav H.
10-13-2008, 03:50 PM
That is possibly the most intriguing thing Jim has ever posted.
So many pssible interpretations.
Ivan G
10-13-2008, 03:53 PM
Jim you are the MAN!!!! I can't wait for EPIC!!!
Isaac Brody
10-13-2008, 03:56 PM
What's a DSMC?
Jim
Good question.
Tico Llaurador
10-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Jim probably means to say that the camera formerly known as DSMC now has a proper name.
Perhaps? Possibly? Maybe?
Philip Lima
10-13-2008, 03:58 PM
What's a DSMC?
Jim
I've been wondering the same thing...
Amazing news about the Scarlet and Epic!
Jerrod Cordell
10-13-2008, 03:59 PM
Are You hinting that EPIC will drop it's price to $30K, or that Scarlet will rise up to $4K? :innocent:
Very well played sir! Peter, I think you should give up your life of film and become a detective.
redkeks
10-13-2008, 04:02 PM
I can't wait anymore :)
SCARLEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTT
dvpixl
10-13-2008, 04:03 PM
...wow. crazy.
everyone should just stop speculating from here on. useless.
redkeks
10-13-2008, 04:04 PM
Maybe Scarlet will be free for all :) hehehe
Tom Lowe
10-13-2008, 04:05 PM
What's a DSMC?
Jim
:help:
Jason Wingrove
10-13-2008, 04:05 PM
Are You hinting that EPIC will drop it's price to $30K, or that Scarlet will rise up to $4K? :innocent:
You guys are killin' me... :-)
Jim
you set yourself up for that one Jim :-)
Love the hints.. makes the wait all the while..
now dsmc (whatever that is) is getting us thinking too
jas
_
mikeburton
10-13-2008, 04:05 PM
Exciting! Thanks for the fun tease:)
Jason Diamond
10-13-2008, 04:07 PM
yeah nice one... :)
im sure it DSMC a name by now:
that which cannot be named, "The Wallet Devil!"
Raul Gonzo
10-13-2008, 04:16 PM
...wow. crazy.
everyone should just stop speculating from here on. useless.
Yeah, I think you are right. I was pretty excited (about a $30k EPIC) until I remembered in another thread that Jim said something about the price of Scarlet changing a little. So, who knows... (Hopefully it goes under $3k:innocent:)
Paul Hazlett
10-13-2008, 04:16 PM
c'mon you guys....DSMC....Digital Soccer Mom Camera!!!
sheesh...
Tico Llaurador
10-13-2008, 04:16 PM
Boy... something tells me these are going to be some very long three or four weeks ahead of us... man!
:ohmy:
dvpixl
10-13-2008, 04:17 PM
haha!
Jim Geduldick
10-13-2008, 04:19 PM
I think i just found a Scarlet in my cracker jack box.lol
All news sounds good . The waiting game kills.
I need one of those remotes from "CLick".
Jason Wingrove
10-13-2008, 04:21 PM
c'mon you guys....DSMC....Digital Soccer Mom Camera!!!
sheesh...
LOL
J
_
Tom Lowe
10-13-2008, 04:21 PM
c'mon you guys....DSMC....Digital Soccer Mom Camera!!!
sheesh...
HAHAHAH!!!!!!!! :)
Jannard
10-13-2008, 04:25 PM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_tease.jpg
Tico Llaurador
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Jim's 2,700th post is a sneak peek of....
Jim Geduldick
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Oh i remember this pic , it was like the first time i saw a Playboy and my friend would only lift up the corner of the centerfold to tease everyone who paid a dollar to see his dads Playboy stash.
Matthew Rogers
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
At least we know that whatever the crap this is, it's got a focal plane mark;) Excited about all the news (and especially the boot time!)
Matthew
SalaTar
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Jim's 2,700th post is a sneak peek of....
a render.....
Damn
Shawn Bannon
10-13-2008, 04:28 PM
Any possibility the REDONE start-up time will shrink to 2 seconds after the upgrade?
Brad Olsen
10-13-2008, 04:28 PM
oh oh, i've played this game before.... hmmm, what could that be a picture of?
Jim, are you just going to slowly zoom out further and further on this rendered image until the November announcment? Or give us other close-up pics that we can put together like a jig-saw puzzle?
Roberto B
10-13-2008, 04:29 PM
amazing!
the guy says nothing.. you seem kids believing in santa..
once again ala sj.. amazing!
DaveT
10-13-2008, 04:30 PM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_tease.jpg
Slices?
Paul Hazlett
10-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Oh i remember this pic , it was like the first time i saw a Playboy and my friend would only lift up the corner of the centerfold to tease everyone who paid a dollar to see his dads Playboy stash.
very funny....and true. camera porn at its finest!!!
hunterrichards
10-13-2008, 04:31 PM
That looks like a RUN DMC camera to me..
Simon Valderrama
10-13-2008, 04:32 PM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_tease.jpg
Sure this has something to do with BATMAN
Jeff Kilgroe
10-13-2008, 04:33 PM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_tease.jpg
Hmmm.... To me, that looks as if it's meant to come apart. :alien:
SalaTar
10-13-2008, 04:33 PM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_tease.jpg
Rather have hard info
Josiah Burdick
10-13-2008, 04:35 PM
or is it bigfoot?
Jerrod Cordell
10-13-2008, 04:36 PM
He posted that pic on the Scarlet User forum, meaning it's something to do with Scarlet.
Sincerely,
Captain Obvious
Jerrod Cordell
10-13-2008, 04:37 PM
Hmmm.... To me, that looks as if it's meant to come apart. :alien:
Hmmm...Modular Scarlet?! Interesting.
JIM YOU ARE A TEASE!
Roberto B
10-13-2008, 04:37 PM
http://dirtriderimports.com/sales/images/drian-bolt.gif
amazing !
amazing!
the guy says nothing.. you seem kids believing in santa..
once again ala sj.. amazing!
Tico Llaurador
10-13-2008, 04:43 PM
Swappable sensor modules!
hunterrichards
10-13-2008, 04:46 PM
Does it come with BOTH SCREWS!!!???
Jerrod Cordell
10-13-2008, 04:49 PM
Shit! Thanks Jim. Now I'm going to be late for work. lol.
Joseph Ward
10-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Hmmm.... To me, that looks as if it's meant to come apart. :alien:
Do you mean Scarlet will go onto Epic, vice-versa, or that both can be made to be one huge monstro camera? Red Camera Voltron!:biggrin:
Axel Mertes
10-13-2008, 04:56 PM
What's a DSMC?
Jim
You product line still changes pretty fast :) and it changes!
[loud thinking on]
Looking forward to that Scarlet photocamera with high speed filming modes :red_bandana: and interchangeable lense mounts. Amazing work!
Indeed, DSMC feels so intergrated = obsolete now.
[loud thinking off]
Keep going, whereever you aim to change.
Cheers,
Axel
Chris Hagan
10-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Despite there being little information announced I am still delightfully satisfied by Jim's post.
I am certainly looking forward to November...
hunterrichards
10-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Ever thought of making digital magazines for film cameras?
Simon Smith
10-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Does it come with BOTH SCREWS!!!???hahaha............
Thom Steinhoff
10-13-2008, 04:58 PM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_tease.jpg
That to me looks like a sensor line, so this would be the front of the camera, so that means...
Scarlett--now with swappable lens mount!!?!?!!!
Peter Majtan
10-13-2008, 04:59 PM
Hmmm.... To me, that looks as if it's meant to come apart. :alien:
BINGO! Modular - BTO cameras. Individual modules for each camera component... :ninja:
That should be the SENSOR MODULE!!!
Roberto B
10-13-2008, 04:59 PM
Does it come with BOTH SCREWS!!!???trademark bolts my friend..
Radoslav Karapetkov
10-13-2008, 05:05 PM
Are You hinting that EPIC will drop it's price to $30K, or that Scarlet will rise up to $4K? :innocent:
That was smart, Pete. :)
Check. :gun:
Tom Lowe
10-13-2008, 05:06 PM
Oh My God.......... :w00t:
Simon Smith
10-13-2008, 05:06 PM
That was smart, Pete. :)
Check. :gun::wink:
Simon Smith
10-13-2008, 05:07 PM
Oh My God.......... :w00t::bye2:
Jannard
10-13-2008, 05:08 PM
Try to keep your speculation here on earth... :-)
Jim
Emanuel A.
10-13-2008, 05:11 PM
Jim,
A friendly price (on both products) would be a great choice for all!
E. :-)
Raul Gonzo
10-13-2008, 05:19 PM
$30k is looking friendly!
Paul Hazlett
10-13-2008, 05:24 PM
I have a feeling Epic is going to be in the 40k range
Caesar
10-13-2008, 05:27 PM
:sad:
Radoslav Karapetkov
10-13-2008, 05:28 PM
Will EPIC have manual focus too? :clown2:
Tony Lorentzen
10-13-2008, 05:29 PM
Upgradeable sensor module, upgradeable lens mounts, upgradeable ... stackable upgrades. I like it.
Mr. Paul White
10-13-2008, 05:31 PM
But "upgradeable" has been the Red motto from day one or am I wrong?...
Karl Gustav H.
10-13-2008, 05:36 PM
Try to keep your speculation here on earth... :-)
Jim
So no Red Spy Satellites then.
Shame.
:ninja:
Richard Goodwin
10-13-2008, 05:39 PM
What's a DSMC?
Jim
Just some crazy guy in another thread claiming he was going to revolutionize the still camera by merging it with a motion camera. You know these people who just won't go with the grain. I think even even claimed somewhere he was going to start a company :) ...
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19132
...
hunterrichards
10-13-2008, 05:41 PM
Jim, can you zoom out on the photo 25% more?
Joseph Hutson
10-13-2008, 05:55 PM
I was told once before, to keep the Scarlet talk where it belongs (scarletuser.net). I guess not anymore?:red_bandana:
YAYYY for Scarlet!:help:
Don King
10-13-2008, 06:01 PM
Why not here? I will have the three models. A second Epic if the camera will sell in the 30k range.
Paul Rosckes
10-13-2008, 06:02 PM
But "upgradeable" has been the Red motto from day one or am I wrong?...
True. But maybe we're seeing the first step towards "user" upgradeable as opposed to "factory" upgradeable.
-Paul
Mr. Paul White
10-13-2008, 06:05 PM
Why not here? I will have the three models. A second Epic if the camera will sell in the 30k range.Well seen.
Justin Kirchhoff
10-13-2008, 06:06 PM
Guys, keep it down! I don't have enough toilet paper to pamper myself with...
Richard Goodwin
10-13-2008, 06:08 PM
User upgradeable would be an amazing development. In field service of the sensor just by swapping it out. The ability not only for RED to provide "modules", but potentially third parties, would be interesting. Cameras can suddenly provide back up parts for one another. That "extra" backup camera would suddenly be a whole slew of backup modules.
Also, assuming that pic does indicate a modular camera. That provides cool flexibility for usage. Being able to put split the sensor from the boards package and put one end on a jib arm and the other at the base ... and a lot of other apps like that would be really handy.
Thom Steinhoff
10-13-2008, 06:11 PM
Try to keep your speculation here on earth... :-)
Jim
I think he meant to say "Oh my Jim..."
:)
Ian Laurie
10-13-2008, 06:19 PM
hahahaha this is too fun to read. i am literally two days from completing the wire transfer and waiting for my "R1" as jim called it. kinda catchy actually.
Shawn Nelson
10-13-2008, 06:24 PM
I for one think that Epic will have a time-reverse feature, so that if you've lost your light, Epic will just go backwards in time for 30 minutes and you can get the money shot. Hopefully Epic can come in under $30k, but I won't pay a dime over $50k for the time function, sheesh!
Clint Johnson
10-13-2008, 06:25 PM
http://dirtriderimports.com/sales/images/drian-bolt.gif
amazing !
Cool, those are drain plugs so I'm guessing that the Epic is plumbed for liquid cooling/heating so that its operating parameters will be from -100 to +100 Celsius(-148 to 212 Fahrenheit)?:sarcasm:
Shawn Nelson
10-13-2008, 06:26 PM
Okay, on a serious note :-)
Jim, I'm *very* glad to hear you'll be making sure Epic and Scarlet use the same EVF/LCD, muy bueno. Also I like the possibility of Epic coming down to $30k, I dig that (I know, I know, you didnt say that, but it's possible...). Btw, do we have final confirmation that Scarlet and DSMC are one and the same?
Esteban Sosnitsky
10-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Jim,
At least some good news on one of those terrible mondays.
You make this crazy effort worth while.
Thanks man.
Roberto B
10-13-2008, 06:30 PM
Guys, keep it down! I don't have enough toilet paper to pamper myself with...are you a rental..?
no need to raise yourself.. you can keep going your toilet seat routine.. your website says all.
Rick Darge
10-13-2008, 06:54 PM
I for one think that Epic will have a time-reverse feature, so that if you've lost your light, Epic will just go backwards in time for 30 minutes and you can get the money shot. Hopefully Epic can come in under $30k, but I won't pay a dime over $50k for the time function, sheesh!
I am beta testing that feature right now in Build19. The mystery build.
SalaTar
10-13-2008, 07:04 PM
I am beta testing that feature right now in Build19. The mystery build.
and you are full of shit
David M
10-13-2008, 07:13 PM
1st piece of news is that the target startup time for both models is... drum roll, please... 2 seconds.
Jim
2 Seconds? Bah! People will still complain it's too long. :biggrin:
Reminds me of the old joke where this big manufacturing company worked out it would be much cheaper to replace the entire workforce with automated machines.
And before the Outraged Union guys could get a word in, they also announced that it would still be cheaper to not lay anybody off, but to go on paying them the same wages to sit at home do nothing, rather than fighting it out with the unions. All they would have to do is come in on Friday morning to collect their pay packet.
"Waidamminnit! You mean, we gotta come in EVERY Friday?!"
It also reminds me of the advertising spiel from Jim's currently Not-Favorite LCD TV manufacturer.
They keep going on about how their TVs are only about 2 inches thick, not that onscenely bloated 4 inches like everybody else!
Like, have they ever looked at the size of those 32 inch CRT sets people paid thousands of dollars for just a few years ago? And who woulda thought people would say 32 inches was on the small side?
Peter Mosiman
10-13-2008, 07:18 PM
cold showers are necessary every hour with today's announcements.
:D!
Stuart English
10-13-2008, 07:31 PM
I am beta testing that feature right now in Build19. The mystery build.
How is it working out for you ?
Paul Hazlett
10-13-2008, 07:39 PM
How is it working out for you ?
there is a bug in the mystery build where once you come back to present day
a bug in the software sends you back 30 minutes again.
C.H.Haskell
10-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Great news Jim, kind of sad to think I will be parting with my R1...:(
Thomas Koch
10-13-2008, 07:52 PM
Hmm. Goes along with my speculation at my blog. I wonder how close I am, or how completely off I am. Either way, it's a fun ride!
Jason Ing
10-13-2008, 07:59 PM
there is a bug in the mystery build where once you come back to present day
a bug in the software sends you back 30 minutes again.
Oh, that's not a bug. That's the new, "user fucked-up", feature.
The Red One/Epic will be able to detect if the operator/owner is one of three types of people. If it does, it time-warps and jump-rewinds back 30 minutes.
Not to say that you're one of those three types of people, Phaz.
It is Beta, right?
Ethan Cooper
10-13-2008, 08:04 PM
Wait, if it's now a R1 unit.... would that make Epic the R2 unit? (how did someone now make this bad joke already?)
Emanuel A.
10-13-2008, 08:06 PM
Wait, if it's now a R1 unit.... would that make Epic the R2 unit?No, 'cause there are two different cameras beyond R1, not just Epic.
gbalaji
10-13-2008, 08:06 PM
I was told that Scarlet will have PL Mount to use Film Lenses.
Is it true Jim, Red Epic software development is being done in Chennai, India?
Jannard
10-13-2008, 08:10 PM
I was told that Scarlet will have PL Mount to use Film Lenses.
Is it true Jim, Red Epic software development is being done in Chennai, India?
Sounds like a tall tale... better read my space ship post on scarletuser...
Jim
Eric Rainey
10-13-2008, 08:22 PM
My bet is 3D..is that the mount between the cameras?
number6
10-13-2008, 08:37 PM
Wait, if it's now a R1 unit.... would that make Epic the R2 unit? (how did someone now make this bad joke already?)
Tonight is the first time I recall the Epic being referred to as the "RED Epic" So I guess that is the official nomenclature since it was used by Bwana Jim himself.
Stephen Pruitt
10-13-2008, 08:59 PM
If it is $30K, I'm in for two.
Stephen
Jarred Land
10-13-2008, 09:27 PM
and done.