View Full Version : RED BELT CLIP for RED DRIVE and RED BRICK
04-26-2007, 07:32 AM
I am thinking more and more to use RED DRIVE and battery, tethered to the belt for run&gun configuration. Hanging the drive and batteries down the rails is bit inconvenient and putting it up right behind the camera will obstruct the access to the controls and small LCD there. Think only about these 6 pounds or so taken off your shoulders.
We need belt clips and longer cables though.
Any body has experience with such a configuration?
Not much on this forum for keyword clip and belt.
04-26-2007, 08:01 AM
Putting the drive and battery on your belt is workable, but it depends on your degree of "run 'n gun". I've worked with battery belts a lot over the years, and to me its a bittersweet experience. The sweet is the subtraction of weight from your shoulder or hand. The bitter is the annoyance of being tethered to anything. For true mobile work, where you're having to alternately get high angle, low angle, and everywhere in between shots, the tether cable can be a nightmare, snagging on everything it can. If you're just shooting primarily from the shoulder in that configuration, then it's not much of a problem.
A determining factor in a waist-tethered setup will be the shock-proof parameters of the RED Drive. If it turns out to be highly shockproof, then a waist configuration is realistic. If not, just the motion of walking or running with the drive mounted on your body, and the transference of shock to the drive, may make a waist mount unfeasible. We'll only know about that when a shipping RED Drive can be tested for mobility and shock values.
Having just a battery on your waist, then obviously shock isn't a factor. But you still have the inconvenience of tethered operation.
I don't see the RED Drive and RED battery having a combined weight of 6 pounds - more likely a combined weight of around 3 pounds. If you can balance the load on your shoulder, and in your hand, I'd personally rather have the drive and battery on the camera rig, rather than the inherent hassles of a waist tether. A run 'n gun EFP setup for RED one will only weigh around 14-20 pounds. That's not a lot of weight for hand held and shoulder held shooting. For years as a mobile shooter I did shoulder and hand held work daily with rigs that weighed 25-35 pounds. A RED One setup will be light in comparison.
04-26-2007, 08:52 AM
Alternatively shooting to the RED RAM and battery on the top would do.
I just do not want to cover the small LCD at the back with the batteries.
We will be in learning mode for some time so I rather see what is there most of the time. Pushing it all the way to the top will look a bit funny don't you think?
04-26-2007, 09:09 AM
I'm definitely interested in the RED RAM option....pretty long record time + the shockproof advantages of Flash.
As I remember, when someone mentioned the Drive/battery combo possibly covering the view of the read data LCD, the RED Team mentioned that the drive/battery will easily and quickly slide on the rear rails, so it isn't an issue.
Putting the drive/battery on top is different. Aesthetically I don't particularly like that option, but functionally it may be a good solution. We'll see. Depending on what lens you're using you will have the ability to slide the entire rig on the rails to achieve a good center of balance on your shoulder or handle for the rig - something that is critical to shoulder and hand held work.
Lenses for hand held and most shoulder held setups tend to be fairly light. For example, a modern HD ENG zoom designed for shoulder/hand held use will weigh around 4 pounds. The RED 18-50 should weigh around 3 pounds. Lenses from 3 to 6 pounds should be easy to counterbalance with a RED RAM/battery or RED Drive/battery back end - plus you can slide everything on the rails for balancing the rig.
04-26-2007, 10:43 AM
now if they only put that little screen on the side we could be running this camera like an sr3. Hopefully they make that remote interface soon so we can mount it on the side (hint, hint), I would like to run the battery as close to the camera body as possible.
04-26-2007, 02:49 PM
One of the things they did at NAB (I noticed from pics and videos) was to have the battery and drive hanging upside at the back of the rails. This way leaves the lcd/buttons at the back open and visible and looks ok aesthetically I think. The only thing I wonder about is whether having brackets on the rails to stop anyone placing the camera down and putting the weight directly on the battery or drive mounts. You never know though they might be plenty strong enough.
One of the things they did at NAB (I noticed from pics and videos) was to have the battery and drive hanging upside at the back of the rails.
I wondered whether this was possible - I assumed it was, but it's good to have confirmation. This sounds like a solution in some tripod-mounted situations where you want to keep the rear end of the camera short, and keep the centre of gravity low. It would, presumably, restrict the ability to tilt the camera upwards beyond a certain angle, although you could presumably swing the unit out when needed to avoid this problem.
04-30-2007, 08:32 PM
With the battery on the back in a configuration which was pretty tight I could still see the lcd ok and put my fingers onto all the buttons, and I have pretty large hands. Just didn't seem to be a problem. Pretty accessable while on tripod and better than on the dummy side when on your own.
05-01-2007, 12:34 AM
I don't see the RED Drive and RED battery having a combined weight of 6 pounds - more likely a combined weight of around 3 pounds. If you can balance the load on your shoulder, and in your hand, I'd personally rather have the drive and battery on the camera rig, rather than the inherent hassles of a waist tether. A run 'n gun EFP setup for RED one will only weigh around 14-20 pounds. But giving away an extra weight from the body configuration -- for stabilizer rig work, it may have some good reason, correct?
Thus, the weight might work better on the stabilizer rig foot, for instance. Counterweighing shall be better than only weighing.
So, getting the RED DRIVE and RED BRICK working away from the body, it will be a must as more than an useful option.
05-01-2007, 12:49 AM
What about the Sata module? Wasn´t there a plan to support solid state disks? That should be smaller and cheaper than the Redram. I thought a 1,8" ssd will be mounted where the raw port is.
Edit: Found the info, sorry for posting