OK, what do we call the new guy?

[Ken Corben]

Cinema style RED shooting we still have the traditional Operator, 1st AC and 2nd AC but the loader's job is replaced with a hard drive management work flow. One suggetion on another post, that I like, is to swap and back up the reddrives frequently on set

What do we call the new guy? Do we pass on the job to the video assist dude or make it a camera department job listing with the dark room replaced by laptop and hard drives on the camera truck?

Possibilities include:

DIMMboy - Digital media managment
DAMer - Digital asset management
BAADboy - binary asset and data

This one could be fun. Any ideas?

[Paul Hazlett]

I was thinking Driver, but then he would have to be part of the teamsters
and that only leads to trouble..."it would be a shame somethin' was to happen to dem drive I is workin on..."

[Kyle Spicer]

Im not sure but isnt it already called the DIT (Director of Information Technologies)?

[Tom Lowe]

I'm gonna call him HD Tech/Grip/Slave.

[overlandfilms]

We call our P2 technicians DITs or DCAs (Digital Camera Asst.)

[PaulClements]

DIT stands for Digital Imaging Technician if I'm not mistaken.

Wikipedia links DIT to digitographer, and goes on to say "works in collaboration with a cinematographer on work flow, systemization, signal integrity and image manipulation, to achieve the highest image quality and creative goals of cinematography in the digital realm"

[Brook Willard]

I'd call them a workflow tech or something along those lines. "Loader" still does it for me... or digital loader or something fun like that.

Or "camera truck workflow slave" ;)

[Steven M. Bailey]

D.igital
A.lgaritham
M.apping
N.etwork
I.maging
T.echnition

"Bring me another drive DAMN IT." "DAMN IT I want three copy's made before I lose my light." "and while you're at it bring me a coffee DAMN IT, two sugers no cream."

Just a thought? I prefer hot chocolate myself.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Modular Imaging, Networking and Input/Ouput Negotiator. aka Minion.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

What do we call the new guy?

My bitch...

Set Monkey...

Boy (even if he's really a she)...


OK, seriously... For P2 workflows many of us already call this person a "Data Assistant", "Data Guy" or typically I just refer to them as my "Data Dude". The guy who's responsible for taking the P2 card and handing me a new one. He offloads / logs the P2 contents and then repeats.

With RED, we're going to have a similar workflow, but longer record times. Especially with the RED Drive. With longer record times also come longer times for logging / backup. Personally, given the size of the RED Drive, I don't plan to use exactly the same workflow as with P2. I plan to hand over Drives to the Data Dude once they are full or if I feel the contents need to be backed up or dealt with before filling the entire drive.

I think this Data Dude could have various titles, depending on their overall function. I don't like the DIT label unless the guy truly is a Director of IT within your organization. To me, DIT also stands for the guy who handles all IT issues, network infrastructure, setup and maintenance of workstations, servers, etc.. Tells / Directs other IT personnel what to do. And if you have a large enough setup to have a true DIT person, chances are he's not going to be the guy on set who hands you a new RED Drive and then goes and starts making backups of the one you just handed him.

[Alexis Hanawalt]

I'm in the middle of a feature shooting on P2 cards - as the assistant editor, I'm on set, digitizing the cards. The duties of making sure the media is properly ingested into an NLE are fairly in keeping with those of an assistant editor, but there's a bit of the emotional stress of being a film loader - especially when camera starts running long takes and the P2 inventory gets low.

For a while, it's weird being an assistant editor on set, but it quickly becomes an integrated relationship between production and post that most people can't imagine ever being without. Lots of quick-checking how things will cut, continuity, etc.

So, I think it's really cool to just call the footage handling individual the "assistant editor" or "editor," depending.

[Petr Dvorak]

diloader

[Adrian T.]

DIDOMAN
DIgital DOmain MANagement

short: DIDO! :)

[Michael "Dorkman" Scott]

"Camera loader" still seems perfectly appropriate to me.

[Petr Dvorak]

DIDOMAN
DIgital DOmain MANagement

short: DIDO! :)

... and everybody starts shout "dildoman" :biggrin:

[Samscad]

I don't know. "Date Dude" gets my vote. Assistant Editor sounds like you'd have to pay him a lot of money. Data Dude sounds cheap and easy to boss around. Producers like that.

[Alexis Hanawalt]

Assistant Editor sounds like you'd have to pay him a lot of money.

Ha ha ha!

You'd think.

[Stephen Gentle]

I don't know. "Date Dude" gets my vote. Assistant Editor sounds like you'd have to pay him a lot of money. Data Dude sounds cheap and easy to boss around. Producers like that.

I second that motion. 'Data Dude' sounds awesome.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

...Or just referencing the comment above:

DILDO - Digital Information Loader and Drive Operator. OK, I'll quit now.

[Steven M. Bailey]

Nice one DAMN IT!!

[peter roehsler]

PDA?
Portable Data Attendant?

just my 0.02 cts

[vanguy]

PISANT: Person Initiating Supervision of All New Technology (PISANT)?
Unusually Normal Digital Electronic Reality Data Organization Guy (UNDERDOG)?
(and my fave) Back Up, Transfer, Loader & Electronics Regulation (BUTLER)?

Sorry, couldn't resist

[peter roehsler]

SERF?
Save
Erase
Reload
Functionary

really hard to resist, sorry ...

or:
how about HDJ (hard drive jockey)?

[damonbots]

Some real flattering titles here!:sarcasm:
I can't help but think of the "piss boy" from History of the World, Part 1.
"Oh, piss boy!"

[Zak Forsman]

on the feature we shot with a P2/HVX200 workflow, our person who was responsible for offloading and backing up media, and cycling us through a series of P2 cards was the same person responsible for ingesting all the media into FCP, syncing to audio and making rough assemblies of each scene.

She was credited as Data Management Editor. or "DaME".

[OUinLA]

How's local 600 handling this? I left Hollywood about a year ago (local 600 AC) and remember this being an issue before our local and the sound local. Technically, sound is supposed to handle that, but local 600 wasn't going to give it up. I know they worked something out but never heard exactly what.