CineXML to rescue a messy shoot.

[akis]

I would like to import to Avid using RedRushes/QT reference, but finish (dpx for Baselight) in RedCine.
The problem is that during the shoot (two cameras), a lot of clips were set in camera to use TOD and many others edgecode.
If I use RR/QT-ref, Avid gets all TOD as start/end. Xml from Filmscribe will also have all TOD.
But RedCine uses the camera TC, TOD or edgecode.
Can CineXML help in this situation?

Thanks,
Akis

[MichaelP]

REDRushes exports both TOD and edgecode when creating the ALE file and it will be tracked throughout the post process. Both timecodes are in the XML exported from Avid FilmScribe so that cineXML or Monkey, etc, can use either one to deliver the DPX files needed by the DI system.

I have created a soon to be released XML that creates a Monkey style CMX 3600 EDL that has both timecodes in it allowing for a tighter match. CineXML would already have both timecodes by virtue of using the master XML to start with.

Michael

[akis]

Thanks for your quick reply.

If I am to use RedCine for dpx creation, the procedure is to load all R3Ds and then open the xml produced by CineXML. But after the first step (load all), RedCine will display for some clips TOD and for the others edgecode.
You are saying that it doesn't matter?

Akis

[Jörgen Persson]

Thanks for your quick reply.

If I am to use RedCine for dpx creation, the procedure is to load all R3Ds and then open the xml produced by CineXML. But after the first step (load all), RedCine will display for some clips TOD and for the others edgecode.
You are saying that it doesn't matter?

Akis

It doesn't matter. Use one or the other for the online - but don't mix.
The r3d contains both timecodes and we use the SDK to extract the necessary metadata from the file.

That means if you use TOD as Master TC in Avid, put TOD as the setting in cineXML.
Then when cineXML does the file indexing it extracts TOD TC in the database before transforming the XML and computing the handles for the clip.

[MichaelP]

Question for Jorgen - do you every use the alternate timecode if available for a tighter conform? It wiuld come in handy for the VFR type shots where time of day would be overlapping. Just an extra data point.

Michael

[Jörgen Persson]

Question for Jorgen - do you every use the alternate timecode if available for a tighter conform? It wiuld come in handy for the VFR type shots where time of day would be overlapping. Just an extra data point.

Michael

We use the timecode from
Source>Start>Frame
Source>End>Frame
to calculate the handle offsets for Redcine...

Then we let the user determine if that timecode is TOD or edgecode in cineXML.

Since we always use the full R3D filename from the XML and not just the Reel (like you do when relinking DPX for example) I think we're pretty safe. The timecode overlap is just between takes within reels.

Does this make sense?

[MichaelP]

Makes sense. Thanks - I am a "more the merrier" type guy when it comes to metadata and dating.. ;)

Michael

[Christoffer Glans]

...as soon as you don't start dating your metadata = vacation time ;)