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Johann Schulz
11-13-2008, 07:03 AM
Rub the lamp and out pops JJ! What a mysterious magician! How do you curb the fanboy within, when the real fanboy is JJ himself, and he's the master fanboy of the machinations of storytelling, opening the world to the best image-capturing machines for any Joe-blow who knows how to tell a story?
Well, we'll wait and see, but these options and prices and and and.... can only mean other companies just began sweating bullets. If RED can really deliver all these goodies, (Hello RED ONE, you pipe dream!), then the recording of the history of the world has just taken a giant leap forward, and individual filmmakers, storytellers, biographers, et. al., have pre-production time only broke filmmakers dreaming have, to write, and plan their scripts to perfection.
And if you need to shoot now, the RED ONE is up, operational, and ready to buy now. I lost 15g in stock; waiting for the rebound. I won't hesitate to pick up the R1, which is waiting for me. Bad luck, good luck, good news!!!!!!
BTW, I'll go FF35 in the new world. So many options....
vladk
11-13-2008, 07:19 AM
Why no PL-mount friendly Monstro sensors? Film is really where you need that extra latitude..
Chris Parker
11-13-2008, 07:34 AM
gotta get PL mount on those sensors for sure.....S35mm lenses aren't going anywhere for a while...
Johann Schulz
11-13-2008, 07:40 AM
Absolutely, but with the "trillion options", it must be possible?! ;>)
Radoslav Karapetkov
11-13-2008, 07:42 AM
Jannard is the Columbus of digital cinema.
With his "La Tinta" (RED One), "La Niņa" (Scarlet) and "La Santa Epica" ( :) ), he and his courageous Team are conquering new horizons of creativity...
(fanfares + dancing girls ... and boys-with-cameras :) )
... And a huge army of filmmaking conquistadors is destined to invade and shape the terra incognita of the future... carrying dream weapons of every kind... big and small...
The Old World of film cinema was great, the New World is just beginning...
Whatever minor doubts I had about the RED company, they were all obliterated today (the doubts, that is :) ).
Thanks.
P.S. Too bad for the celluloid "natives" though. :)
number6
11-13-2008, 08:14 AM
Forget about the other camera companies catching up anytime soon. Only a company like RED could pull something like this off.
Reason is, because to my knowledge no other camera company is soley ouned and (adopted) family operated. To do this type of re-invention you have to have a decision maker who can get on the floor with the rest of the builders, and simultaneously travel above the floor to get the overall view of what the body of builders is doing.
My concern is not about the immediate future, but a hundred years from now. If Jannard is not here at that time, who's gonna build my "new idea" camera then?!
That's what keeps ME up at night.
Peter Lyons Collister, ASC
11-13-2008, 08:15 AM
Seems like Jim and the team thought things out and the option to "change the brain" is exactly what the new Digital Cinema world needs.
I don't want to jinx anything but this all reminds me of Apple and guess who is a nicer Steve Jobs.
Please post which config is most appealing to all of you.
number6
11-13-2008, 08:29 AM
Please post which config is most appealing to all of you.
My personal favorite is option number 856, 972, 334 . But I'm sort of old fashioned and prefer that early era look.:whistling: :biggrin:
(alternatively I like the one-trillion and 05 option, but not as much as the first one I chose.)
Johann Schulz
11-13-2008, 08:29 AM
The secrecy of Apple has plus and minus marks beaten all over its soft skin. I LOVE the new RED Cam finishes! The quality just keeps getting better! Apple might be dropping the ball here, but they're checking the market numbers, for sure, and as R1 has come off of the back burner, they might get serious soon. If they don't, a legion of Mac fans may go where they have to....
Matt Uhry
11-13-2008, 08:58 AM
Why no PL-mount friendly Monstro sensors? Film is really where you need that extra latitude..
Yes - I'm sure you could put a PL on the FF35 monstro, but you would not realize any/much resolution gain from the R1 - of course you should gain in latitude, frame rate, sensor shape options and lack of temporal artifacts: all good things.
With 10000's of configurations it's going to be hard to put together a multi-camera shoot with matching cameras !
Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
Radoslav Karapetkov
11-13-2008, 11:56 AM
My concern is not about the immediate future, but a hundred years from now. If Jannard is not here at that time, who's gonna build my "new idea" camera then?!
That's what keeps ME up at night.
I think you know something we don't. :)
number6
11-13-2008, 12:05 PM
I think you know something we don't. :)
yes... I do.
Drew Suppa
11-13-2008, 12:09 PM
Jannard is the Columbus of digital cinema.
Not a good analogy; the Vikings landed in North America in 1100CE and before them the Mayans were so aware of the geography of the world that their wise men sailed to the Indian coast and studied Buddhism with Tibetan sages... and who can forget the Asians who crossed to Alaska on a land bridge in the Bering Strait during the last Ice Age 12,000 years ago.
Sorry... huge history buff.
It's kind of like saying Bill Gates invented computers. He just stole a lot of technology from other people and assembled it in new and amazing ways.
...Maybe it is a good analogy, on second thought, no offense to Jannard.
nick allsop
11-13-2008, 12:38 PM
i am concerned about no PL mount above 5K. there are professional work flows for 2/3" lenses and PL mount lenses. i see the 9k to be like 65mm and the 28k to possibly be like imax, i see them as sfx and specialist cameras. but am not sure about 6k FF35. the lenses seem to be AF stills lenses. i know people have been shooting red footage with stills lenses, but it seems that the more expensive higher resolution camera will be using cheaper and less proven glass.
i'm concerned that there is now too much choice its all gonna get confusing.
Johann Schulz
11-14-2008, 12:28 PM
PL mounts now available, but don't wish full resolution on top of it!
Radoslav Karapetkov
11-14-2008, 05:37 PM
the Vikings
There was the DVX100, ya know. 24p and stuff. :biggrin:
the Mayans were so aware of the geography
And the HVX200. :)
And Kodak got these thingies from a loooong time, but they weren't available and certainly not affordable.
Ya know? :bleh:
Sorry... huge history buff.
You're forgiven.
And welcome to the club. ;)
It's kind of like saying Bill Gates invented computers.
M-no, a Bulgarian-American did.
P.S. And Columbus was one lucky fuck! He was looking for India, for Christ's sake. Fortune favors the bold...
P.S. (nosey) Ya know? ::bleh: