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Max Burgess
11-13-2008, 11:00 AM
Hi All (again)

My next question is about doing a RED offline with SD quicktimes. We are going to by using Clipfinder to render out our QT's as H264 1024x576. (using Clipfinder because the production company has already made selects!) Clipfinder only seems to export an afe for DNxHD renders.

So I did a render and stopped it for the afe, then rendered SD qts. I just did a test in the Avid whereby I started a 1080 project to import the afe then opened that in an SD project. (1080 25p then to a 25p project) and copied the AFE and batched in the SD qt's.

It seems to have worked out ok, just wondered if anyone had a better solution or if there were any issues about doing it this way especially when it comes to the dpx conform?

Thanks again.


Hans-Georg Daun
11-14-2008, 07:09 AM
Let me know if you need additional features in Clipfinder.


Max Burgess
11-14-2008, 08:35 AM
I found out that it is pointless exporting to SD Qt's. Although if there was a way to export an ALE to a 1024x576 project that would be good. At the moment I am importing the ale into an HD project then copying the clips into as SD project and importing the DNxHD files to an SD project.



11-14-2008, 12:04 PM
You can do what you are doing because the ALE is for a 1080 24fps project and the timecodes in the START are also at 24fps. If you wanted to create a full SD workflow, I would create 720x486 anamorphic QT using the Avid codec of SD choice (like 14:1). The ALE would then need to be a NTSC 23.976 version where the START is now a converted 30fps (with assumed pulldown) and the original 24TC goes into the TC24. You can track the additional timecode in the AuxTC24 column to keep both TOD and edgecode in post.

The NTSC/PAL conversion from 24 in ALE is currently a unique feature of MetaCheater.


Max Burgess
11-15-2008, 11:00 AM
Thanks Michael,

I am in the UK working in PAL so if it was shot at 1080/25p then put into a 25p project would that be ok? I have done a few tests and it all seems to work ok.

Also have you seen my post about Monkey and the folder structure.. any ideas? That one is hurting my head!


11-15-2008, 01:44 PM
yes, 25p has the benefit that both the SD and the HD rates are the same -


David Morgan
11-17-2008, 05:34 AM

If I'm planning an SD out, would shooting at 2k 30fps make sense? Would it save any time?

11-17-2008, 03:57 PM
30fps would have 20% frame processing than 24fps for the same minute to minute duration... ;)

Fps is a subjective and creative decision - do you like the look? NTSC deliverable only?, etc.