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Mohammed El Sharqawy
11-15-2008, 11:11 AM
RED-One had 36 MB/s and that was making trouble for shooting on CF cards.. Scarlet's now is 42 MB/s... EPIC's 225 MB/s...
maybe for Epic something like the discontinued RAW-Port will come in the picture. don't know,, maybe high speed flash mag on-board with 10 minutes recording..

for Scarlet.. I don't think CF cards would still do the job!! also, technology would prove me wrong..

I just wanted to know about the plans for the new storage options for both cameras...

thanks..

Tim Sutherland
11-15-2008, 01:28 PM
In the description for the CF module on the brochure, it says recording to INTERNAL MEMORY or optional CF or SSD modules. Does that mean one of those two brains will house some form of internal recording memory?

Cüneyt Kaya
11-15-2008, 01:43 PM
In the description for the CF module on the brochure, it says recording to INTERNAL MEMORY or optional CF or SSD modules. Does that mean one of those two brains will house some form of internal recording memory?

i am pretty sure we will see something like this

http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/80gb-ikonskop-memory-cartridge/

80 GB 240 MB/sec

Even Solberg
11-15-2008, 04:11 PM
Would be nice if there was a memory module that could take SATA interface SSDs. Kinda like a CF module, only for SATA SSDs.

Häakon
11-15-2008, 04:48 PM
RED-One had 36 MB/s and that was making trouble for shooting on CF cards.. Scarlet's now is 42 MB/s... EPIC's 225 MB/s...
The website lists the data rate as "REDCODE 225," but I don't think we can just make the assumption that this is 225MB/s. I say this for two reasons; one, there is a disclaimer on the website saying that this is simply a "quality reference," and two, during his recent interview with Red Centre (link: http://www.fxguide.com/redcentre ), Ted Schilowitz has stated that there isn't a direct correlation between the naming scheme with the new REDCODE rates and their bandwidth requirements (like there was with the RED ONE), and it takes into account resolution, fps, etc. I just point this out because there is no mention of MB/s on the new Epic/Scarlet pages and the storage requirements may not need to be as ridiculous as you think.

Best,

Häakon

Mohammed El Sharqawy
11-16-2008, 08:53 AM
The website lists the data rate as "REDCODE 225," but I don't think we can just make the assumption that this is 225MB/s. I say this for two reasons; one, there is a disclaimer on the website saying that this is simply a "quality reference," and two, during his recent interview with Red Centre (link: http://www.fxguide.com/redcentre ), Ted Schilowitz has stated that there isn't a direct correlation between the naming scheme with the new REDCODE rates and their bandwidth requirements (like there was with the RED ONE), and it takes into account resolution, fps, etc. I just point this out because there is no mention of MB/s on the new Epic/Scarlet pages and the storage requirements may not need to be as ridiculous as you think.

Best,

Häakon


of course you are right, my wonder was based on that on the same page I see REDCODE 36 42 225 500,,, as I know from RED ONE 36 is a referrence to data rate.. that's i didn't knew about that interview..
well, storage requirements for these numbers 42 225 500 is not ridiculous as I thought .. coz simply its the same codec technology with much higher amount of data to deal with .. as a 4k frame with 10 bpc would need (4096x2304x10x3 bits) around 33.75 MBytes.. a 5K frame (5120x2880x10x3 bits) 52.75 Mbytes .. that's 50% more data.. what about 6K, 9K and 28K ... so that's what would make it obvios these numbers stand as somehow datarate reference even if its max data rate not avarg..

and technology would prove me wrong ...

Best,