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Clark Dunbar
11-16-2008, 07:53 AM
here's a couple of thoughts on other "brain" modules.....

#1) a EPIC 645 "View" - a full view camera configuration with swing, tilts - giving control over dof, perspective, displacment, "Scheimpflug rule" (think Sinar P 4x5 or 8x10) - biggest concern would be the lense options thast offer coverage with all the possible lens/sensor displacement/movement (but this has always been handled in view cameras). The Epic 645 would have enough resolution and this would be a great use within the commercial market and probably expanded...... now - add ffocus controls and controls over the swings and tilts during a shot...

#2) a rotating back (sensor plane) - think the Fuji 680's revolving back - for vertical and 'dutch angles' by rotating the sensor rather than the whole camera - add a motorized control on this... benefits of fully rigged cameras -> the weight and balance of the rig is maintained as the whole rig stays in the same place.

btw - Love the Epic 617, shot with the Fuji 617 (120 film rolls) when it first came out in the late 80's

Paris Remillard
11-16-2008, 10:10 AM
All you would need for #1 is a different lens mount module. Or even just a view camera front that fits the existing lens mount. Cambo has adapted their dSLR bellows system to the Red already

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18645&highlight=cambo

Although with the larger format sensor of the Epic 645 you'd get a bit more control and have more lens options than with the s35 frame.

I'm very excited about the 645 and 617. I didn't think that they'd be viable digital motion picture formats for a long time. But here we are.

Clark Dunbar
11-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Well - on the 'View" camera model - I see a complete view camera control with fully move-able front and rear. This allows for off-set, displacement, etc. The fixed back and bellows setup that several 35mm and 2.25 (medium format) camera systems offer (via a bellows for the front end) - do not give this control.

Paris Remillard
11-16-2008, 10:36 AM
You do have full movement with the rear though. It's just not on a rail so it's a bit more awkward to get some of the movements. As long as the front has full movement, you can move the rear however you want. It just requires panning and tilting or raising and lowering of the camera for the rear movement and then adjusting the front standard as desired.

Or with the small size of the Epic, one could probably pretty easily adapt the Epic "brain" module to fit on a medium format monorail type system like the Sinar P3 or X3 in place of the rear standard/digital back. Then you've got full flexibility.

Clark Dunbar
11-16-2008, 11:29 AM
Only having a 'front end' movement to a fixed 'rear end', takes the option of swings and tilts off the centerline of the lens - once you start to off set the centerline you have coverage loss, that having a totally free movement on both ends gives more freedom for the image control. Yes - you can do a lot with a front-end bellows with swings and tilts (with major awkward setups), but there are trade-offs and limits to control and lens choices. A full view camera (front and rear) setup would offer the most control......

P Andersson
11-16-2008, 11:41 AM
http://reduser.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7213&d=1220799218

awesome, great to see