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Mark L. Pederson
11-25-2008, 02:53 AM
Okay ... obvious one here:

WIRELESS HD MODULE (with wireless TC PLEASE!!!)

Maybe IDX wants to play ball ...?

Nils Ruinet
11-25-2008, 03:41 AM
http://boxx.tv/

Coming soon :

Key features:
Extremely high quality uncompressed video
Zero frame latency (1 millisecond)
5GHz licence exempt band
Secure encrypted transmission
Transmit to unlimited receivers
View multiple cameras from one receiver
Automatic channel select (seeks and locks onto cleanest frequency)Saw it at IBC, looked great.

Not sure about TC, but 2 audio channels are being transmitted.

Lewis-M Soucy
11-25-2008, 06:53 AM
Yeah, Boxx looks great, there's Titan as well (dunno if it does HD signal though, but I heard some Red users do use it, so it must...)

Michele Gavazzeni
11-25-2008, 11:43 AM
I'm waiting for the
http://boxx.hostinguk.com/test_site/PDF/BOXX.Meridian.pdf

and thay say "at a fraction of the cost of COFDM systems.."
It's not going to be cheep but anyway... I need one

Chris Parker
11-25-2008, 12:47 PM
two questions re. the boxx system....

1. how much is it?

2. what is the range?

okay, 3. does it take ALL HD formats, including 1080p24??

Just curious, as this unit is interesting.

I love Mark's idea though. A module. Needs more range than the CamWave though.

Chris

Mark L. Pederson
11-25-2008, 04:01 PM
two questions re. the boxx system....

1. how much is it?

2. what is the range?

okay, 3. does it take ALL HD formats, including 1080p24??

Just curious, as this unit is interesting.

I love Mark's idea though. A module. Needs more range than the CamWave though.

Chris
Boxx is a microwave system - should have an eval unit sooner than later - $10K+ I believe -

Brian J.M. Rytel
11-25-2008, 05:59 PM
http://boxx.tv/

Coming soon :
Saw it at IBC, looked great.

Not sure about TC, but 2 audio channels are being transmitted.

I see you and raise you:http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22804 follow the link in my post.

Joseph Ward
11-25-2008, 10:07 PM
What about Red making a Wireless RAW all they way up to 28K Resolution! :shifty:

David Wyatt
11-26-2008, 03:40 AM
:alien: This thread got me thinking - I wonder how long it will be till you don't record to physical media on camera - you just beam it directly through the ether to your edit suite (no more rushes runner :sad:)

Lewis-M Soucy
11-26-2008, 05:30 AM
Boxx is a microwave system - should have an eval unit sooner than later - $10K+ I believe -

I think the Titan unit is ok for the Red, and MUCH cheaper...

fREDeric ChAMbERlAnd
11-26-2008, 06:31 AM
Hi Lewis,

If you are referring to the Transvideo Titan,
http://www.transvideointl.com/images/TitanPack_m.jpg

this system is not HD but SD. You will need a downconverter if you want to use it on the RED.
Any sender can work on the RED if you have the good tool to downconvert the signal before sending it.

Cheers.

Lewis-M Soucy
11-26-2008, 06:39 AM
Ah ok. I guess a downconverter is pricey... And more stuff on the camera too...

Chris Parker
11-26-2008, 07:15 AM
and not hd picture at the other end......

for analog transmission, go with a CanaTrans...

for hd..still up in the air waiting for the first GOOD, affordable HD-SDI wireless unit...

Nils Ruinet
11-26-2008, 12:33 PM
The Titan is ok but but it transmits only composite SD, so you need to add $1000 for a downconverter (HDSDI to Composite PAL / NTSC).


Boxx is a microwave system - should have an eval unit sooner than later - $10K+ I believe -

From what I remember, there will be a few different versions of the Boxx meridian system, some for monitoring (Range around 60m), some for broadcast (bigger receiver, bigger range around 150m).
I'm not 100% sure, but I remember hearing a starting price around $5000. I may be wrong though...

Mark, please let us know when you get to try it...
I really like their SD system (only issue is the 1/2 second delay, which will be gone on the new HD systems).

Mitch Gross
11-26-2008, 07:54 PM
The new HD Cam-Wave system works great. Reports of a rolling image when shooting at 25fps were because the monitor out setting on the camera was set to 60i instead of 50i. The Cam-Wave is available now and we have successfully used it on many jobs, including numerous RED jobs. Available for sale or rent from Abel.

Nils Ruinet
11-27-2008, 04:22 AM
I guess it's that one :
http://www.abelcine.com/store/product.php?productid=1001133&cat=0&page=1

Price is reasonable, only thing is that it looks a bit bulky and heavy (1,5 pounds). Don't they make a lighter version without the battery plates ? Well, I guess this wouldn't remove much weight anyway...

Perry Ho
11-27-2008, 04:34 AM
Well, the transvideo's Titan was suck, it's even poor then what I bought from the local video transmitter, cost less then 100 bucks.

Mitch Gross
11-27-2008, 11:59 AM
I guess it's that one :
http://www.abelcine.com/store/product.php?productid=1001133&cat=0&page=1

Price is reasonable, only thing is that it looks a bit bulky and heavy (1,5 pounds). Don't they make a lighter version without the battery plates ? Well, I guess this wouldn't remove much weight anyway...


That's the unit. There is an identical-looking receiver unit in the kit (price includes the pair) and they are available in V-lock or Anton Bauer mounts. It is a bit larger than the SD systems out there, but the weight really is pretty nothing -- it's a circuit board in a beefed-up plastic shell. The plates make for nice mounting points, even if you don't use them for power (there's an XLR4 jack on the side for this as well). The image quality is great -- we recently had one client use one to feed to a deck for final recording (not on a RED of course). They are ridiculously simple to use, send a solid signal for 150' and you can add additional receivers if you wantor use multiple transmitter/receiver pairs with signal lockouts to prevent interference.

This is a really great bit of kit and don't just take it from me. John Chater of Chater Camera posted about this here on REDuser before I did. Of course he did buy it from us but he's a long-time Abel client. Chater does a lot of RED business so I'm sure that their Cam-Waves have been used on RED Ones plenty of times.

Dan Graetz
12-29-2008, 08:24 PM
Boxx is a microwave system - should have an eval unit sooner than later - $10K+ I believe -
Anyone have any further news on the Boxx Meridian system? We're on the verge of ponying up for a CamWave - but the Boxx looks like the way to go.

Shot Boxx an email but no dice.

Mark? Bueller? Anyone?

tj williams
12-29-2008, 10:31 PM
Mark... RED HD WIRELESS!!!! Major Suggestion!!!!
Make it Cooler than the Modulus,(not stylish by cool I mean without velcro melting chassis heat) smaller
than a cell phone. Not microwave as they are too much line of sight so don't work well in walled sets or locations. clip onto special dummy side mount of the brain....