How much will the I/O module cost?

[thomas-english]

I am cool with $35,000 for a full frame epic. Does anyone have any idea as to how much the I/O module s will cost on top?

Apart from lenses, power and grip which I already have. It is just an epic head , I/O module, storage and viewfinder I need to buy. I just wonder if the I/O module will be over $10,000 .

[J. Bernard Vallon]

No idea, however on another thread this topic came up, someone said they thought they'd budget "5,000 for modules (plural)"

Jim responded "Where did you get that number? Its...interesting"

Which tells us that 5000 for modules (plural) is probably dead wrong. Whatever that means.

[Jay A. Kelley]

It is the price of the modules that will make or break this thing.. Remember they work for ALL the Brains. So you could be looking at an additional $5,000 for a Scarlet..

I dunno how that will wash out.

Jay

[thomas-english]

Thanks guys. Yeah, that is the interesting part. I imagine there will be a variety of different spec's modules available. I can't see them being that cheap as there is quite a bit going on there, including the encoding?

We will have to wait and see.

[diskojerk]

i don't think the modules are going to be priced nearly that high. I'd expect to pay less than $2000 for the I/O module and less than $1000 for the battery expansion. While nothing is going to be cheap, I wouldn't expect any deal breakers with the accessories.

[fde101]

there is quite a bit going on there, including the encoding?

I doubt the modules would be doing the encoding -- that's almost certainly happening in the brains. The filesystem management and storage allocation: that I could see...

[fde101]

I'd expect to pay less than $2000 for the I/O module

Much less than that.

[Joseph Ward]

Hundreds and not thousands! :excl:

[Eric Ulbrich]

I wonder if they will release different versions of the I/O module, it would be sweet to have the ability to configure an I/O module for exactly what you want. Furthermore I want to know if RED might eventually release the pin configurations for the modular design so we have more variety and companies to look at for our accessories. I think that allowing companies to help build up the accessory line for RED will help spur competition to keep RED ahead of the curve.

[Mark L. Pederson]

I'd have to guess that everything in the "explosion" post by Jarred - EXCLUDING THE BRAIN AND LENS - will run somewhere between $12K - $15K

My logic there is ....

the RED ONE with EVF, 7" LCD, quickplate and CF module is $23,950.

The Scarlet S35 Brain is (estimated) $7,000.

That is 5K and more dynamic range than the RED ONE -

so ... if you think of that as the "next generation" - it should be a little better & a little cheaper ... but then you "compensate" a bit for the modular construction ... and there is a bit of rod/bracket goodies in the "explosion" post ... so I'd say you are back at $23,950 ... add some magic Jannard dust and you get to $20,000 - less the $7K brain - that's $13K.

I expect, as usual, there are plenty of un-realistic folks.

This is all just my personal guess. I could be WAY off.

[Eric Ulbrich]

That sounds quite reasonable considering a 1080P monitor. I would be more conservative and say all accessories are around 20K

[Mark L. Pederson]

That sounds quite reasonable considering a 1080P monitor. I would be more conservative and say all accessories are around 20K
I would be totally happy with $20K, and I secretly suspect that will be closer to the reality - but I am an optimist :devil:

[Colin Sheldon]

No idea, however on another thread this topic came up, someone said they thought they'd budget "5,000 for modules (plural)"

Jim responded "Where did you get that number? Its...interesting"

Which tells us that 5000 for modules (plural) is probably dead wrong. Whatever that means.

Yeah, that was me.

To be honest, I don't know what to make of Jim's response either. Say the modules required to match the R1 is $10k That means a S35 Scarlet + modules = $17.5k ... At that price point, I could see the majority of people sticking with the R1. It has more features, and the sensor is still upgradeable. That would also put the 2/3 scarlet at $12.5k which would delegate all HVX, EX1 market to the fixed lens scarlet. One camera in the sub $10k price range, and three in the $10k-20k range is definitely possible... but also interesting.

But if the required modules are $2000, then a S35 Scarlet is going to be $9.5k ... and lets just say I can't see a lot of people purchasing R1s.

That's why I thought a S35 scarlet would fall into the $12k-$14k sorta range.

Now the Scarlet S35 is 5k, so maybe that will allow them to price it closer to the R1 without cannibalizing sales .... Or maybe December 3rd will change everything. Who knows.

[Mark L. Pederson]

lets just say I can't see a lot of people purchasing R1s.

As soon as Scarlet S35 ships ... I don't think they will.

But I do also think a Mysterium X in a RED ONE will be bad-ass.

Big question there for Red owners, more important than "how much" is WHEN, and they will be able to upgrade. After Scarlet S35 ships but before Epic S35 ships? At the same-time?

I think Jim or Jarred should just make a HOW DO YOU THINK YOU WILL UPGRADE POLL here on Reduser after his next bombshell - and then, even if folks change their minds - RED will have a better barometer of what people plan to do.

[Colin Sheldon]

I'd have to guess that everything in the "explosion" post by Jarred - EXCLUDING THE BRAIN AND LENS - will run somewhere between $12K - $15K

My logic there is ....

the RED ONE with EVF, 7" LCD, quickplate and CF module is $23,950.

The Scarlet S35 Brain is (estimated) $7,000.

That is 5K and more dynamic range than the RED ONE -

so ... if you think of that as the "next generation" - it should be a little better & a little cheaper ... but then you "compensate" a bit for the modular construction ... and there is a bit of rod/bracket goodies in the "explosion" post ... so I'd say you are back at $23,950 ... add some magic Jannard dust and you get to $20,000 - less the $7K brain - that's $13K.

I expect, as usual, there are plenty of un-realistic folks.

This is all just my personal guess. I could be WAY off.

And at 13k that would put the 2/3" Scarlet at $15.5k .... IMO that's really close to the price of an R1, considering the features.

[Colin Sheldon]

As soon as Scarlet S35 ships ... I don't think they will.

But I do also think a Mysterium X in a RED ONE will be bad-ass.


The R1 has a lot of features that scarlet lacks - 120fps, 2:1, 2.4:!, anamorphic... And Red has made a big deal out of saying that Scarlet isn't a R1 replacement...



Big question there for Red owners, more important than "how much" is WHEN, and they will be able to upgrade. After Scarlet S35 ships but before Epic S35 ships? At the same-time?

I think Jim or Jarred should just make a HOW DO YOU THINK YOU WILL UPGRADE POLL here on Reduser after his next bombshell - and then, even if folks change their minds - RED will have a better barometer of what people plan to do.

Agreed... though then another bombshell well come and they'll have to redo the poll haha.

[Joseph Ward]

IF all accessory modules would be $1K(or less), would that save money/cost more/be the same amount, if someone wanted everything to add on? :detective2:

[Jarred Land]

IF all accessory modules would be $1K(or less), would that save money/cost more/be the same amount, if someone wanted everything to add on? :detective2:

i read this one 3 times and i still cant make sense of it... ?

[david farland]

i read this one 3 times and i still cant make sense of it... ? bit like the avatar....

I think he's asking do you get a discount if you buy all accessories.

D

[Jannard]

We'll likely make a package that saves a bit...

Jim

[Stephen Williams]

i read this one 3 times and i still cant make sense of it... ?

Hi,

I think he wants all the accessories to cost under $1000.:greedy:

Stephen

[Moir]

Surely the "point" of Scarlet is to have an entry route into the Red family of products?

This only works if the entry level product is affordable, and I think these 5-figure guesses for mandatory add-ons are way off the mark.

The R1 tested the market and has apparently sold about 5,500 units to date. A functional S35 Scarlet, sans lens, for the same ballpark cost as the R1 probably isn't going to sell a whole lot more, and I think Red plans to sell a lot of Scarlets.

Accordingly, I reckon Stephen is probably right.

[Jaime Vallés]

We'll likely make a package that saves a bit...

Jim
Awesome. Something akin to the Base Production Pack for Scarlet & Epic modules would be great.

[zak forrest]

Do the brains have a single audio input? That would be sweet. If not, I would love another module besides the I/O module that lets me do audio.

For a run and gun doc style shooting experience, where I have no use for any video outputs or multiple audio inputs and I'm just using a single microphone into the camera, I would love a way to do that and keep the camera as SLIM as possible. I hope the brains have built in audio capabilities, and if they don't, I hope that there will be a slim audio module without the video output like the I/O module so I can keep my camera as slim as I possibly can with nothing on it that I don't need..

[Jared Caldwell]

We'll likely make a package that saves a bit...

Jim

Awesome. I know this question had been brought up on ScarletUser. Thanks for shedding some light on this Jim.