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conrad gaunt
11-27-2008, 08:29 AM
Why after all this time, after buying a new Mac (ATI), and a PC (NVIDIA), is Redcine useless, literally?

1) Output Quicktimes?

- In Mac mode Redcine outputs TIFFs. cool. QT's, sometimes, but mostly just a few frames. No audio, but I guess we have Redrushes.

- In XP 32bit/Bootcamp. Forget it, garbage image output, whatever format. Preview images are fine, but not very useful for editing!

- Using my dual core 2 XP 32bit Nvidia powered laptop. Forget it. Image garbage.

How any machines / operating systems do I need to buy exactly?

2) Audio, a bridge too far?

Please can we have audio stream output.
Not a button that enables audio preview (sure thats useful/essential), but audio output, preferably with an option to only export audio.
Output is pretty trivial. An uncompressed WAV header is 44bytes, followed by samples, too much to ask? My advice is cross platform AIFF (32bit), not sure if there's a PC 24bit standard yet, but I guess I'm greedy?



Most of my clients rely on Redcine to gain access to R3D data.

Seriously, is no one at Red actually embarrassed by Redcine ?
If not, why not?
Because its crippleware anyway?

Ramesh Jai
11-27-2008, 09:29 AM
I understand they are releasing a newer version of RedCine soon. Hope they will address a lot of issues you mention.

Bruce Allen
11-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Please can we have audio stream output.
Not a button that enables audio preview (sure thats useful/essential), but audio output, preferably with an option to only export audio.
Output is pretty trivial. An uncompressed WAV header is 44bytes, followed by samples, too much to ask? My advice is cross platform AIFF (32bit), not sure if there's a PC 24bit standard yet, but I guess I'm greedy?

No, you're not. How about a .BWF (the same thing my Sound Devices 702T spits out happily for 96khz 24bit)?

It's just a WAV file with some extra header info.


I understand they are releasing a newer version of RedCine soon. Hope they will address a lot of issues you mention.

I hope so too Ramesh...

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

sander kamp
11-27-2008, 08:04 PM
I love RedCine as a viewing and demonstration tool. It is great to see high quality playback directly from the RAW file and to be able to do color corrections while playing back. But I agree that as a production tool is falls short in many ways - which is frustrating because it holds the promise of something great.

A while ago me and others posted about severe banding in quicktimes outputted from RedCine that is not apparent in tiff or dpx sequences. No reaction from RED. I even pm'ed Luki but got no response.

I really wished RED would put some effort in making software useable on a daily basis. How about drag and drop for RedAlert? Icons for R3D files? Double click to open in RedAlert? Outputting RSX files out of RedCine? Quicktime files that you can preview in the finder? All seems like little things to me to fix (but then I don't make software) that would make life with RED a lot easier.

Cam Crowley
11-27-2008, 09:03 PM
Icons for R3D files? Double click to open in RedAlert?

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6026&highlight=redportal

A little gem of an app I've been using for ages with RA. Makes life much easier.

And it's free! Thanks to Anders Holck for that one.