The "Pick your Brain" Poll

[PaulClements]

Ok people, I'm surprised this hasn't already been done yet so I thought I'd put it up. (If it has I missed it and apologise!)

I'd like to pick your brain as to which brain(s) you'll pick (See what I did there! OK it was lame I know :)).

I have some predictions but won't post them until later.

[PaulClements]

By the way the poll is private and you can vote for multiple brains, idea being if you plan on upgrading to another brain later. Obviously don't pick loads that you'd like, simply the first and how you reckon you might upgrade later.

Paul

[David Mullen ASC]

Well, an EPIC S35 with a 16-bit Monstro sensor is what I'd like to use the most... but that's not an option, is it? So I guess that leaves the FF35...

[Sanjin Jukic]

FF35 with "a sort of IMS mount" for RED that I could work with Leica-M glass.

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

2/3"-I

and a FF35mm Scarlet [when I grow up :) ]

[but only if it features 3K/60 fps :devil:]

[roryhinds]

monstro S35, Red need to give the people what they want.

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

Isn't the FF35mm Monstro practically a S35mm Monstro + more .

Are there things on the S35mm brain that [B]can't be done on the FF35mm?

[Eren Ozkural]

Here's my predicament:

-I would love to buy the S35 SCARLET for it's resolution and compatability with a wide variety of still lenses that I can buy while giving me the flexibility to rent good cine glass for higher profile projects.

-However, I can get the 2/3 Fixed Lens SCARLET for much cheaper, I can shoot out the box and perhaps most crucially it can shoot at 150fps in burst mode.

-Sure, the 2/3 SCARLET CINE would let me use whatever 16mm and 2/3 lenses i need and thus be alot more flexible and "professional" however the prices of good 16mm/HD Fujinon lenses would mean that I could only rent them instead of owning a set of primes or a zoom. Sure there are the RED mini primes but I have no idea what so ever as to what they will eventually cost.

-Since the 2/3 Fixed Lens SCARLET has a substantially different design that the rest of the DSMC line I'm not sure if it will be compatable with all the modules required for a proper cine setup. i.e I doubt that I can build up the Fixed Lens 2/3 SCARLET and then just buy another brain later on.

-The S35 SCARLET is the first model to ship however the massive initial demand, the model's apparent popularity and RED's "fashionably late" delivery times mean that I probably won't get one until the winter at best....which is when the 2/3 Fixed Lens SCARLET is due...

Any ideas guys? I mainly shoot music videos and short films with an eye to shooting a feature within the next 2 years.

Thanks. :)

[RayFrisby]

Well, an EPIC S35 with a 16-bit Monstro sensor is what I'd like to use the most... but that's not an option, is it? So I guess that leaves the FF35...

This is my wish too

Scarlet S35 with 16bit Monstro sensor (the added DR this would really make the Scarlet) Hell don't say this but I'd even pay a little more for this than for the proposed FF35.
4/5K whichever would be fine by me, its the 13+ stops DR I'm after.
With 1-125 frame Rates up to 3K including 1080p/Quad HD
1-60/100 for 4/5K

FF35 is really overkill for Scarlet in my opinion. Not that I wouldn't like one but the S35 is the one that fits in with current production formats and lenses. In this price range the S35 Monstro option makes the most sense to me.
This would really make the Scarlet the camera of choice in this price range. Game over everything else, Panasonic, Sony, Canon would all be playing catch up.

Just my 2 Cents

[Jason Ing]

Well, an EPIC S35 with a 16-bit Monstro sensor is what I'd like to use the most... but that's not an option, is it? So I guess that leaves the FF35...

I think a lot of people want this.

Maybe it should be its own specific polling thread to show how many people want it... sort of like a petition. :shifty:

[Jaime Vallés]

Scarlet S35 is all I really want. 5K, S35 DoF, 72fps bursts... I can live with the dynamic range of 11 stops.

[Leo Ticheli]

Decisions made on faulty or incomplete intelligence tend to result in unintended consequences.

Here's what I need to determine:

1. How will the images from the Scarlet FF35 compare with images from the Epic X? If they are so close they may be intercut with transparency, one might make one decision; if the Scarlet FF35 is so obviously superior that no one wants to shoot with Epic X, quite another decision must be made.

2. How long after the Epic X is delivered will the Monstro cameras ship? If it's a few months, less than six, one might be inclined to hold one's breath. If the interval is much longer, a year perhaps, the Epic X upgrade becomes increasingly attractive.

3. Which package is more valuable for general commercial shooting: a single Epic FF35 or a package with two bodies; one Epic X and one Scarlet FF35? I've never had a shoot killer problem with my Red One, but tragedies do occur. A back up body can save the day. Both of these packages, one Epic FF35 or one Epic X and a Scarlet FF35 cost about the same, so money is not really an issue.

I'm leaning toward the two body scheme, but have this very unpleasant feeling that Mysterium X cameras may be totally eclipsed by the Monstro; that could have unfavorable economic consequences for Epic X owners.

Q. When does the best price/performance camera in the world lose much of it's luster?

A. When it becomes the second-best price/performance camera in the world.

In due course, we're likely to get the information we need to make the best choice for our circumstances.

Red. Revolutionary. Really.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

[Pawel Achtel]

Well, an EPIC S35 with a 16-bit Monstro sensor is what I'd like to use the most... but that's not an option, is it? So I guess that leaves the FF35...

I chose Epic X S35 and Scarlet FF35. This way I have two bodies (one backup): one body capable of high frame rates and the second capable of 16-bit. Also, the X S35 will ship earlier than Epic FF35. I think this is the best combination (for me, of course :) )

[Dylan Macleod, CSC]

I think a lot of people want this.

Maybe it should be its own specific polling thread to show how many people want it... sort of like a petition. :shifty:

David said what I want - that doesn't exist.

Pawel's plan is also my plan, given the current line up.

[PaulClements]

I'm a little surprised anyone has put the Epic S35, I expected this to be zero frankly... afterall who would buy this over buying a RedOne now and trading in for the Epic S35x???? Seriously who?

Also I agree Pawel, I can see a whole bunch of people buying this setup. Live with the 11 stops for the slow motion stuff on the S35x and use the FF35 scarlet for typical 24,25 fps footage.

Paul

[Mark K.]

Scarlet FF35 for me. I'll take a 4K S35mm crop over the S35's 5K, for 16-bit and 13 stops of DR (the dynamic range is more important to me than outright resolution).

I'd also consider getting a Scarlet 2/3" for those times when I need higher frame rates (but I suspect I'd probably prefer to just rent an Epic brain on those occasions instead).

[Michael Schmitt]

S35for me, if I can possibly swing it. 11 stops will be fine, thank you, and I don't need that many different frame rates.

[tillHavis]

I'm a little surprised anyone has put the Epic S35, I expected this to be zero frankly... afterall who would buy this over buying a RedOne now and trading in for the Epic S35x???? Seriously who?

Also I agree Pawel, I can see a whole bunch of people buying this setup. Live with the 11 stops for the slow motion stuff on the S35x and use the FF35 scarlet for typical 24,25 fps footage.

Paul

Hi Paul ! I personally dont like the Red one form factor. To me the Scarlet and Epic seem like a new and improved design. I don't want to invest in two systems. I love the look of the Scarlet and Epic and feel this is a real camera design that can be built upon. To me the RED seems like a prototype, a good one, but still a prototype. To me the Scarlet and Epic are the evolution of this design.
For me the Scarlet S35 with the Monstro chip would be my preferred choice.
Why ?
1. A new form and design
2. A real modular design that looks like it is here to stay and can be built upon. Once again I do not feel this is the case with the RED one.
3. A S35 Scarlet Monstro would be useable off the shelf with all existing S35 Primes and lenses.
4. Monstro = increased DR.
5. The FF35 has 1-30 fps WHY ???? Ok we don't always use the extra frame rates but the option is there in other Scarlet models why not allow them in a S35 version ?? even up to 100fps.
5. Even at 4K, a Monstro S35 (16 bit) would be amazing and something to be reckoned with. I don't care if its Redcode 100 as long as we get a DR of 11+; 13 would be great.
6. Why limit the Scarlet by making people buy two or more brains, ok its more revenue but a new design and system needs acceptance.

Ok the Red has been accepted as a feature camera but the Scarlet and epic are a totally different different concepts, in that they are upgradeable and truly modular.

Give us a stonking great Model in each of the upper end Scarlet and Epic Models. Let us pay a little more if needs be. Then sit back and watch the sales pour in. I would be happy if the Scarlet S35 Monstro was between 10-14K once I knew I was getting a great camera with fantastic (16bit) DR 11/13 stops, and variable rates.

My 2 Cents

[Mark K.]

Till, a S35mm-sized crop on the 6K FF35 sensor is going to yield a roughly 4K image. Along with the extra dynamic range you're after. I think it'll match your needs pretty well.

As for 30fops, it looks great played at 24fps for those moments you want to slow things down ever-so-slightly (reaction shots primarily).

[Derek Green]

Scarlet FF35 and either Scarlet fixed or cinema depending on how the accessories/cost/miniprimes play out.

[Jaime Vallés]

Scarlet FF35 for me. I'll take a 4K S35mm crop over the S35's 5K, for 16-bit and 13 stops of DR (the dynamic range is more important to me than outright resolution).
If both came out at the same time, that's one thing. But the S35 Scarlet is currently scheduled for Summer '09 release, and the FF35 is scheduled for half a year later. Because it will be a new sensor technology (Monstro) my gut feeling is that it may take even longer than that. We'll have to see in mid-'09.

Also, the S35 Scarlet with Mysterium X should theoretically have greater dynamic range than the RED ONE, so that's good enough for me. :ninja:

[Tim Lüdin]

The FF-Epic will be my next big RED. Dynamic range is everything and fullframe will be the future of cinematography. Great great idea and concept.

I little scarlet for filming my 9 week old gaughter will also go into the basket.
Sometimes you just want to have some fun.

Tim

[PaulClements]

Hi Paul ! I personally dont like the Red one form factor. To me the Scarlet and Epic seem like a new and improved design. I don't want to invest in two systems. I love the look of the Scarlet and Epic and feel this is a real camera design that can be built upon. To me the RED seems like a prototype, a good one, but still a prototype. To me the Scarlet and Epic are the evolution of this design.
For me the Scarlet S35 with the Monstro chip would be my preferred choice.
Why ?
1. A new form and design
2. A real modular design that looks like it is here to stay and can be built upon. Once again I do not feel this is the case with the RED one.
3. A S35 Scarlet Monstro would be useable off the shelf with all existing S35 Primes and lenses.
4. Monstro = increased DR.
5. The FF35 has 1-30 fps WHY ???? Ok we don't always use the extra frame rates but the option is there in other Scarlet models why not allow them in a S35 version ?? even up to 100fps.
5. Even at 4K, a Monstro S35 (16 bit) would be amazing and something to be reckoned with. I don't care if its Redcode 100 as long as we get a DR of 11+; 13 would be great.
6. Why limit the Scarlet by making people buy two or more brains, ok its more revenue but a new design and system needs acceptance.

Ok the Red has been accepted as a feature camera but the Scarlet and epic are a totally different different concepts, in that they are upgradeable and truly modular.

Give us a stonking great Model in each of the upper end Scarlet and Epic Models. Let us pay a little more if needs be. Then sit back and watch the sales pour in. I would be happy if the Scarlet S35 Monstro was between 10-14K once I knew I was getting a great camera with fantastic (16bit) DR 11/13 stops, and variable rates.

My 2 Cents

Yes but my point still stands... Why wouldn't people buy the Red One body and upgrade to the Epic X S35 rather than buy the normal Epic S35 - You get all the extra bits and a slightly better brain for the same price!!!!

It's essentially a pointless product if you ask me since people would be throwing away money for the extra modules that come with it and getting a lower redcode 225 vs the X's 250.

Am I missing something here? Why would anyone buy it?

Paul

[Mark K.]

If both came out at the same time, that's one thing. But the S35 Scarlet is currently scheduled for Summer '09 release, and the FF35 is scheduled for half a year later. Because it will be a new sensor technology (Monstro) my gut feeling is that it may take even longer than that. We'll have to see in mid-'09.

Also, the S35 Scarlet with Mysterium X should theoretically have greater dynamic range than the RED ONE, so that's good enough for me. :ninja:

This is what impresses my most about the new Epic/Scarlet program Jaime, the ability to choose the setup that works best for you. I have no qualms about waiting a little longer for the FF35 because renting equipment as I need it, works just fine for me at the moment.

Investing in my own kit will entail moving to a completely new business model, so waiting for the right kit is more important to me than an additional 6 months of doing what I'm doing now.

[Leo Ticheli]

This poll, if it accurately reflects purchases that will actually take place, is remarkable in the number of people saying they intend to buy a Scarlet S35, a camera body that's merely $2750.00 less expensive than the vastly superior Scarlet FF35.

We can't know the real price for a workable package, but guessing that the extra bits required will cost somewhere between 3K to 10K, not even including lenses and all the other required support gear, the slightly higher cost of the Monstro Scarlet seems quite insignificant.

Any business model that is dependent on $2750.00 to make the difference in success or failure is surely precarious.

Frankly, I think both the S35 Scarlet and Epic are very poor choices, unless the Monstro chip is much delayed or the difference in image quality is less than we believe.

If Red were to offer the same Epic X package deal, with a commensurately higher price of course, for the FF35 Monstro sensor, that would certainly be my trade in choice. Unless the delivery gap is lengthy and/or the quality difference is minimal.

All will be revealed in due time; isn't this exciting?

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

[Jaime Vallés]

This is what impresses my most about the new Epic/Scarlet program Jaime, the ability to choose the setup that works best for you. I have no qualms about waiting a little longer for the FF35 because renting equipment as I need it, works just fine for me at the moment.

Investing in my own kit will entail moving to a completely new business model, so waiting for the right kit is more important to me than an additional 6 months of doing what I'm doing now.
I completely agree. That's the best part of what RED is doing with the modular system. Everybody has their own priorities when considering purchasing a camera in these price ranges. RED offers us choice, and that can only be a good thing. :sorcerer:

[Tom Lowe]

Epic FF35 if I can afford it!

[Gunleik Groven]

Well, an EPIC S35 with a 16-bit Monstro sensor is what I'd like to use the most... but that's not an option, is it? So I guess that leaves the FF35...

You and most others I can imagine... :)

[Nick Ambrose]

This poll, if it accurately reflects purchases that will actually take place, is remarkable in the number of people saying they intend to buy a Scarlet S35, a camera body that's merely $2750.00 less expensive than the vastly superior Scarlet FF35.


Leo


Well, I voted Scarlet S35, mainly because
1) I dont make any money doing this, so $2500 does matter
2) I shoot underwater, and the S35 is the cheapest option that lets me replace my Sony cam and my Nikon for U/W
3) I need wide field of view (ideally wider than the 2/3" may give me easily?) but also a good depth of field as I do wide-angle wreck & cave work, not really macro where a shallow DOF is good.

of course, that is all "speculation" at this point and funds may dictate that I have to go for a less expensive option (hopefully not)

Of course then I have to put $thousands into the housing as well ...

[Leo Ticheli]

Hi Nick,

You surely have an expensive hobby!

Undoubtedly the Scarlet S35 would make an incredible "advanced amateur" camera. I suppose prices are all relative; there are many amateurs out there shooting with $40,000.00 Hasselblads equipped with thousands more in lenses.

I'm not so sure that 35MM vs. 2/3" sensor matters in terms of available angle of view; there are very wide angle lenses for 16MM that would work, as are the video lenses around 4.5MM. I'm not sure which would be less expensive.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

[Nick Ambrose]

Hi Nick,

You surely have an expensive hobby!

Undoubtedly the Scarlet S35 would make an incredible "advanced amateur" camera. I suppose prices are all relative; there are many amateurs out there shooting with $40,000.00 Hasselblads equipped with thousands more in lenses.

I'm not so sure that 35MM vs. 2/3" sensor matters in terms of available angle of view; there are very wide angle lenses for 16MM that would work, as are the video lenses around 4.5MM. I'm not sure which would be less expensive.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

Thanks for the info Leo, yes my hobby is expensive :)

This is one reason I am going to RED/Scarlet though -- so far I have upwards of $15K into my stills and video setups (not including lights)

That "investment" essentially leaves me in a total dead end for video (FX1 cannot be upgraded) and somewhere dead in stills (I can change lenses but not much else)

As I say, currently I am just guessing about which config I will be able to afford or will make the most sense.

What I do know is that Scarlet is going to revolutionize my U/W filming, and looks like it will protect much of the investment I make in that equipment, so it seems like a win/win for me.

of course now I need a new Mac, and tons of storage to be able to work with the footage :)

[PaulClements]

So with 150 votes we have 250 selections. Which means that many people are planning to buy two brains. I reckon a large contingent of the S35 X buyers will go on to purchase the Scarlet FF35 or the Epic FF35 for the monstro sensor. There must also be quite a number of people planning on buying the Epic FF35 rather than trading in for the S35 X. The standard Epic S35 is the least popular of the product line up which was to be expected. Even the 617 has as many people choosing it and that's a specialized camera. The 645 also represents a specialist camera with slightly more popularity than the 617. The 2/3 scarlet isn't as popular as the fixed lens version and the Scarlet S35 has more popularity than perhaps expected but this may be due to the fact that it will likely be available before the FF35 and many newcomers to the Red line up see it as the entry level to a professional quality, it also has a larger sensor than the scarlet 2/3 so photographers will be drawn to it.

In summary... The time and availability of the camera combined with the upgrade offer seems to be dictating what brain people intend to purchase. I think things might be very different if the Monstro sensor brains were available at the same time as the others and the S35-X offer wasn't on the table.

Interesting stuff.

Paul

[Eric Lange]

Scarlet FF35, very useful for broad range of 3d work (at a very affordable price). Hoping that they will switch the roll out dates of the S35 so that the Scarlet FF35 comes out first instead. They are close in price and yet the Scarlet FF35 seems to be a much more versatile system.

[Antoine Baumann]

epic s35 with monstro

[imported_Cedric_Akins]

Personally, as of now I will only be able to afford the fixed lens Scarlet when it comes out. I don't know what the futre may hold. There may be a favorable financial situation to come my way that may allow me to purchase either the Scarlet S35 or the the Epic FF35. I would love to say that I would buy the FF35 Epic, I/O module, battery module, batteries, chargers, lenses, and other accesories needed for my first feature film. But my budget for the film is just under 10 grand, so camera package of that caliber will kill the entire project.

I am so excited about the prospect of shooting my first feature with a camera like Scarlet.

[John "Woody" Glaser]

Epic S35 with Monstro

[Jeff Kilgroe]

epic s35 with monstro


Epic S35 with Monstro

I'm still puzzled as to why people are requesting this....

[conrad gaunt]

Ok people, I'm surprised this hasn't already been done yet so I thought I'd put it up. (If it has I missed it and apologise!)

I'd like to pick your brain as to which brain(s) you'll pick (See what I did there! OK it was lame I know :)).

I have some predictions but won't post them until later.

If you don't post your predictions until after-the-fact, how will we know they're genuine predictions? :detective2:

[Gunleik Groven]

I'm still puzzled as to why people are requesting this....

Really?

Most PL glass covers S35
Monstro has the DR.
Epic has the framerates.

Sorta makes sense to me :)

[PaulClements]

I kinda agree Jeff... What people are asking for is essentially the FF35... I can't see sticking a S35 size monstro in there will make it any cheaper than the FF35. It's $7,000 more for a lot more DR.

Paul

[Antoine Baumann]

Paul, Jeff, I totaly respect your point of view and mine might not be yet well considered...but
first DR will be better on monstro than on mysterium x, that is for sure, but how much is not yet a given fact.
Second, DR is important to me, but it there is other factors. Red One has already good DR so Mysterium X won't be bad.
Third, I want to record the whole sensor size, not a crop part of it. Why should I have a 36x24mm sensor if all I need is 25x14mm?

Thanks,
antoine.

[Curran Giddens]

Third, I want to record the whole sensor size, not a crop part of it. Why should I have a 36x24mm sensor if all I need is 25x14mm?


Even if it was the same price as the FF35? I would rather have the larger sensor size just in case....

There is nothing wrong with crops. Everyone is already cropping with the RED ONE. Even at 4.5k you would still be cropping....

[PaulClements]

Paul, Jeff, I totaly respect your point of view and mine might not be yet well considered...but
first DR will be better on monstro than on mysterium x, that is for sure, but how much is not yet a given fact.
Second, DR is important to me, but it there is other factors. Red One has already good DR so Mysterium X won't be bad.
Third, I want to record the whole sensor size, not a crop part of it. Why should I have a 36x24mm sensor if all I need is 25x14mm?

Thanks,
antoine.

Well for a start the the S35 models do not compeletly cover anamorphic. 4 perf is 18.6mm, the 2:1 sensor of the S35's is only 15mm. The 24mm height of the FF35 would allow one to take a full 16:9 framing from anamorphic without cropping the sides as much as you normally would when using 35mm film which would be an improvement over 4 perf for TV work. Many S35 lenses will cover far larger than the 30x15mm lenses meaning with an FF35 your lenses can go even wider and you can select the maximum usable image... Because it's larger you're crushing out more noise when bringing it down to 1080p or 2K... These are a couple of things I could think of on the spur of the moment as to why I'd go for the FF35 sensor size rather than asking for a monstro S35.

Paul

[Darren Orange]

Hey has anyone touched on the fact that their will be a sensor to my understanding at some point for RED ONE that will be S35mm Monstro. Please correct me if I'm wrong but i've heard Jim and company say that their would be a path.

[PaulClements]

Hey has anyone touched on the fact that their will be a sensor to my understanding at some point for RED ONE that will be S35mm Monstro. Please correct me if I'm wrong but i've heard Jim and company say that their would be a path.
Maybe though I'd be suprised if there's enough processing power in the Red One to perform much better than the Scarlet FF35.

Paul

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Really?

Most PL glass covers S35
Monstro has the DR.
Epic has the framerates.

Sorta makes sense to me :)

That's true, but....

FF35, installed with PL mount, gives full sensor coverage for S35, meaning it's better for use with anamorphics and the equivalent of shooting 3-perf or a bit larger and not restricted to the Mysterium [X] "S35" that is a 16:9 aspect ratio.

There would be no manufacturing advantage or cost savings to the user if RED were to also produce a Monstro sensor at the current S35 16:9 dimensions. What Paul said above was correct as of 11/13, but as of the 12/3 announcement, the price difference between EPIC S35 and the FF35 model is $5K. And it seems that there is quite a bit more to offer by spending $5K more -- newer sensor design with more DR, larger sensor area to work with, higher frame rates... The downfall to waiting for the FF35 EPIC is just that, the wait. It could be several months or a year or more after the S35 Mysterium X model. So to me, the EPIC X for RED owners looks like a real nice solution, as does the Mysterium X upgrade for the RED One as an interim solution. While we wait for the EPIC FF35 and 645 models to ship.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Hey has anyone touched on the fact that their will be a sensor to my understanding at some point for RED ONE that will be S35mm Monstro. Please correct me if I'm wrong but i've heard Jim and company say that their would be a path.

Monstro for the RED One has been announced, but we don't have any specs for it. You could very well be right though. At one point, Jim said that Monstro for RED One would remain 4K, which would imply it remains limited to the current S35 dimensions. But it also seems that the R1 will retain most of its current abilities, which means it will probably still remain between the Scarlet and EPIC for functions. I think the achilles heel for the R1 will eventually be its internal processing power and what it can ultimately perform on the sensor data. Unless RED will make other internal upgrades to the R1, which is entirely possible, we just don't know yet.

[Antoine Baumann]

There is nothing wrong with crops. Everyone is already cropping with the RED ONE. Even at 4.5k you would still be cropping....

3K crop from the redone is good, 2k is not. If I could understand why...

thanks,
antoine.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

2K crop from a RED one is fine. In nearly every case I see people complaining about 2K on the RED one is because they don't nail their focus. Most people's 4K looks no different than their 2K if you were to take a 2K crop out of the center. ...Just sayin' People down-rez their 4K. But many are looking at 2K in a 1:1 situation. Not good. 1:1 from a debayered image is going to show a lot more flaws. It's pretty tough to get full 1080p out of a 2K bayer pattern.

sharp 2K from RED:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15256

If RED were to offer a S35 Monstro, it would be no different than shooting an S35 "window" on the FF35.

[Esteban Sosnitsky]

I too want a Epic S35 Monstro...
Or I could even keep my R1 and upgrade accordingly.
S35 is enough for me, but I do like the DR and REDCODE specs offered by monstro.
The FF35 for me would be like buying a Ferrari and drive it at 55mph :)

[Tico Llaurador]

Everyone wants an Epic S35 Monstro. That's why you ain't getting it!

Buahahahaha!

:devil:

[Joshua Brown]

Ah, the budget is still completely up in the air. I'll settle with the fixed lens 2/3" if I must. But I'm really pressing for the S35 Scarlet and a red prime set... I just hope the primes are available at the s35's launch.

-Josh

[xsa]

For me
Scarlet fixed lens and scarlet FF35

[nick allsop]

i'm worried about ff35 glass and workflows. i want PL glass on my epic.

[nick allsop]

Red still hasn't made there PL primes yet. and now they plan to make mini primes,ff35 lenses, 645 lenses, and 617 lenses as well. your best off going with the professional standard so go s35 and use pl. i also want a s35 monstro.

[Kristopher Colavecchio]

im still stuck between the 2/3's and the s35 scarlet. if i can get the mini prime set for a reasonable price i prolly will go that way, if not it may be canon glass for me ....so many options not enough money to get them all :waaa:

[Emmanuel Cambier]

Guys,

Whatever you can do on a S35 you can do on a FF35 the contrary is not true.
If 16bit is important to you (and it should) just get an FF35, there is absolutly nothing wrong with croping, and someday you may need the extra sensor around S35… anamorphic beauty.

Emmanuel

[Stephen Pruitt]

I'm dreaming of an S35 Monstro, as well. That's the (non-existent) sweet-spot.

Stephen