any idea how many cameras have been reserved?

[Eric Oliver]

Wondering what # I would be if I put a deposit down. Jim? Any ideas?

[donatello b]

approx 1500 reservations ( camera serial numbers assigned) ....
plus ?? number of orders ( starting at NAB... no serial numbers given with orders ) ....

[Costelloe Michael]

I asked this same question after I put down my reservation. They are no longer assigning numbers but rather give an approximate delivery date.. early 2008 unfortunately in my case. Luckily I have access to one of the earlier models and should be up to speed by the time mine arrives!

[Ace]

I think the number of orders after reservation numbers is somewhat sensitive business information... Its probably better for red to let the competitors sweat on not knowing the exact numbers being sold :D

[TimothyD]

I wouldn't be at all surpised if it was 5,000 or more.

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

I wouldn't be at all surpised if it was 5,000 or more.

Me neither, but my gut feeling is on roughly 3000....

Hey this makes me think COMPETITION TIME: RED let´s have a new competition, we could guess the number of reservations on some set date in the not too distant future - you put up some prize (doesn´t have to be anything fancy - a signed poster or sticker or something....)

Of course it´s the sensitive information part thing... so probably not, would have been fun while waiting though...

[Jens Jakob Thorsen]

3000? Thats a really low number..I hope youre right...I would want some thousands of units going thru the mill before I get mine..then all the bugs will be corrected....in early 2008 ;)

[Jiri Bakala]

I believe that I saw a post somewhere and the person had Red# in the low 4000's.

[Craig Bowman]

Hi Jiri:

Are you buying a Prime Set and/or zoom(s) from Red or are you planning to rent cine glass from the coast?

[Jeremy Newmark]

3000? Thats a really low number..

In the high-end, digital cinema, camera world, that is a very high number. To give you an idea, when we bought our F900 about 2 1/2 years ago, there were only about 270 of them in the US at that time. At that point, the camera was in rev.3 and it had been shipping for years. I know we are talking about a very different range in terms of price, but the Redone isn't even shipping yet and the number of orders is in the thousands, simply amazing.

[Matthew Rogers]

I believe that I saw a post somewhere and the person had Red# in the low 4000's.

Over the 1500 reservations no one know what number red they have--because they haven't given out any firm camera numbers. To me, it quite frankly annoying that after the reservations they stopped giving out numbers. I would really like to know if my red camera is 2384 or 4494!

Matthew

[Álex Montoya]

My ID is in the one thousands... That's after they stopped giving reservation numbers and I ordered it about a month ago, BUT i don't know if that means anything at all.

[Matthew Rogers]

My ID is in the one thousands... That's after they stopped giving reservation numbers and I ordered it about a month ago, BUT i don't know if that means anything at all.

You mean your order ID? Because someone from RED here on the board said that the order ID does not matter (which is good, because mine is like 900,000 or 9,000,000, something like that.)

Maybe they are waiting to say how many they are shipping to have some extra ammo against Sony/Panasonic/Etc in the marketing (aka: Sony only shipped 300 F900's, we've shipped over 3,000) However, that's probably a stretch.

Hey Jim, it would be nice to have a firm number for our order so we know where we are in line..that'd be nice (would 50 lbs of butter be enough to butter you up?;))

Matthew

[Brook Willard]

I believe that I saw a post somewhere and the person had Red# in the low 4000's.

Yeah, that's me. It's a joke. The number is 4K.

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

Yeah, I've got a post-NAB crazy order number too. There are 2764 registered members of this forum. If I had a reservation down for a RED camera, I'd join "Red User" pretty quick (in fact I did..:gun: ). Some lucky people have ordered more than one. So I'm with Eirik Tyrihjel: 3000 orders :whistling:

Anyone remember "The Price is Right" gameshow?
One of us could be in the running for tonight's "Star Prize"..:tongue:

[Jeremy Newmark]

Maybe they are waiting to say how many they are shipping to have some extra ammo against Sony/Panasonic/Etc in the marketing (aka: Sony only shipped 300 F900's, we've shipped over 3,000) However, that's probably a stretch.

Worldwide, Sony has shipped thousands of F900's at this point. In fact, I've been told that one of the main reasons the camera was ever made in the first place was because NHK told Sony, if you make this camera, we will buy 2700 of them. So Sony made it. It was only after that point that the cinema world saw a use for it and put it to work. In reality, the F900 is a very high-end ENG camera, it was designed for television. However, some saw it as good enough to use for cinema work and it took off from there. In an earlier post I referred to there only being around 270 F900's in the US 2 1/2 years ago, very few of those were being used for ENG work. The point I was trying to make was that 3000 orders is a lot for a high-end digital cinema camera. This is just one of many reasons why the Redone is a very different story, because it is a digital cinema camera, that some will use as an ENG camera, where as the F900 is a ENG camera that has been used as a digital cinema camera. In fact before the F23, I don't think you could say that Sony ever made a digital cinema camera, with the possible exception of the F950, but the F950 was not a true cine-camera. The F23 however is and I don't think Sony will have sales totaling in the thousands any time soon, especially with it's price tag.

[tj williams]

Jnewm
I do freelance work for NHK we shoot on a Sony 730 not a cine alta. I was told by a Sony Mgt. guy at NAB that the probable number of cinealta (F900) cameras totals between 1 and 2 thousand. This after seven years of selling it! Clearly this as unknowable a number as the RED #1 delivery date....

If you have shot cine type work with an F900 then you know some pain. The viewfinder is not good enough for critical focus. The format is old style compressed. The ergonomics are very ENG. The accessories are a kludge.
The F950 is a very high end EFP type camera not any more a cine camera than the F900 and the F23 is simply an F950 with a huge ungainly deck mounted to look like a magazine. The body is much larger so either it is more empty or part of the deck electroinics are in the body part. So much for my little rant here!!!

[Jeremy Newmark]

TJ
The NHK story and the 2700 was told to me by either Michael Bravin or Jeff Cree, I don't remember which one because it was a couple of years back, but regardless they both work very closely with Sony so I took his word on it. Maybe he was wrong or just blowing smoke, but both of them are normally pretty trustworthy when it comes to Sony information.

I've worked quite a bit with the F900. Mostly with the color viewfinder, but I have worked with the b&w one as well. The color vf is definitely much better to work with, but I agree, for critical focus you really are much safer using an external monitor.