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Elyse
01-05-2009, 02:04 PM
Question for those editing RED footage out there--

Does anyone know of a way to make NEW r3d files from an existing one?
Say I have a long clip of something but I need to give PART of the clip to a client but it has to be r3d, not a QT proxy. Is this possible?

Christopher Grant Harvey
01-05-2009, 02:07 PM
Try this: http://www.freewarefiles.com/Chunk-File-V_program_20618.html

This Tool will allow you to make large files into smaller pieces for transfer. You can then rebuild the chunks into the original larger file.

Features:
It will allow you to select the chunk size.
Files are quickly rebuilt.

Works for me.

Andrew Walker
01-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Try this: http://www.freewarefiles.com/Chunk-File-V_program_20618.html

This Tool will allow you to make large files into smaller pieces for transfer. You can then rebuild the chunks into the original larger file.

Features:
It will allow you to select the chunk size.
Files are quickly rebuilt.

Works for me.

Looks like this is only for the PC world, if I'm reading it right.

Thom Steinhoff
01-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Those type of programs are generally used to split files for CD's, or torrent uploads so people can download them in small chunks and reassemble them afterwords.

I think what they are looking for is something that will clip from 1:33 to 1:45 from a 4 minute clip and create a usable R3D.

I definately see how this would be useful, but I don't know of anything that does it yet.

I'm sure some of the guys from the stock footage community are either working on this or have a solution--maybe they can chime in.

Peter Majtan
01-05-2009, 03:41 PM
Try this: http://www.freewarefiles.com/Chunk-File-V_program_20618.html

This Tool will allow you to make large files into smaller pieces for transfer. You can then rebuild the chunks into the original larger file.

Features:
It will allow you to select the chunk size.
Files are quickly rebuilt.

Works for me.

I think Elyse is after "trimming" the R3D and sending only a small part of it - not the whole file broken into small pieces. I have asked this to Brent number of times and we hope some newer version of the SDK will allow us to create such a tool. I would kill for one like that...

:) Peter

mikeburton
01-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Unfortunatly, RED R3d's are read only meaning you cannot save/write R3d's right now. I wouldlove to do this and so would lots of people but it's impossible right now. Sorry.

albert rudnicki
01-05-2009, 04:42 PM
you could always use the final cut plugin; do your in&out and conform r3d to a new file, while maintaining the raw format.

michael zaletel
01-05-2009, 05:22 PM
If someone does make such a tool, it should be called "SLICE". :)

-shooter

conrad gaunt
01-05-2009, 08:22 PM
I've noticed a partial R3D file will still load, so if the clip you want is at the beginning of the original R3D file, you just need to truncate the file up until the desired cutting point to make a shorter version.

Elyse
01-06-2009, 10:42 AM
I think Elyse is after "trimming" the R3D and sending only a small part of it - not the whole file broken into small pieces. I have asked this to Brent number of times and we hope some newer version of the SDK will allow us to create such a tool. I would kill for one like that...

:) Peter
That is EXACTLY what I am looking to do!

Gunleik Groven
01-06-2009, 10:50 AM
I guess you could use log&transfer in FCP, IF you are FCP/Color based...

Christopher Grant Harvey
01-06-2009, 11:28 AM
I've noticed a partial R3D file will still load, so if the clip you want is at the beginning of the original R3D file, you just need to truncate the file up until the desired cutting point to make a shorter version.

This is exactly what you can do with the program I posted... you cannot precisely pick the in and out points but you can break the file up into smaller R3D's and send just that part of the file.

Just rename the file it makes to the .R3D extension and it works. It works takes 2 seconds and is quicker than any other method posted here.

For PC only, was not mentioned in original post what OS was being used.

Elyse
01-06-2009, 11:34 AM
I am a FCP editor.

Mac.

Christopher Grant Harvey
01-06-2009, 12:11 PM
I am a FCP editor.

Mac.

For Mac.

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Split-Concat.shtml

Sean Rawls
01-06-2009, 02:26 PM
This is exactly what you can do with the program I posted... you cannot precisely pick the in and out points but you can break the file up into smaller R3D's and send just that part of the file.

Just rename the file it makes to the .R3D extension and it works. It works takes 2 seconds and is quicker than any other method posted here.


I just tried splitting a 543MB R3D into 120M sections with the mac program Split & Concat. The split worked fine but the 120MB R3D won't open in Red Alert, FCP or Color. Anyone have any suggestions or different methods? This would be really useful.

Elyse
01-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Thanks, but I need something that will let me choose in and out points instead of just splitting it into chunks.

I appreciate the link, though! :)

Jimmy Christensen
01-31-2009, 07:38 AM
I have actually thougt about making such a tool. I've looked at the R3D container and think it should be fairly simple to split it up into smaller pieces.

If the tool doesn't exist yet I would perhaps look into it :)

Gavin Greenwalt
01-31-2009, 09:06 PM
I have actually thougt about making such a tool. I've looked at the R3D container and think it should be fairly simple to split it up into smaller pieces.

If the tool doesn't exist yet I would perhaps look into it :)

It existed for about 48 hours. Now it doesn't. As a result of the previous tool I would say it's substantially more difficult to develop one now.

Red didn't take kindly to it.... and also promised to release an officially sanctioned tool shortly. Still waiting.

Jimmy Christensen
02-01-2009, 09:01 PM
It existed for about 48 hours. Now it doesn't. As a result of the previous tool I would say it's substantially more difficult to develop one now.

Red didn't take kindly to it.... and also promised to release an officially sanctioned tool shortly. Still waiting.

? I don't understand. Someone made the tool and RED put out a DMCA?

Anyway I'm almost done now. Think I just need to make the last 4 ending packets. The first version will just be in form of a python script. Will see how it behaves performance wise and perhaps make a c version later.

Gavin Greenwalt
02-01-2009, 09:14 PM
http://helloconradgaunt.googlepages.com/r3dtruncator
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25159

Looks like RED has changed their stance since their ?exclusivity agreement expired?...

Jimmy Christensen
02-01-2009, 09:45 PM
http://helloconradgaunt.googlepages.com/r3dtruncator
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25159

Looks like RED has changed their stance since their ?exclusivity agreement expired?...

Ah that one. But that will only truncate from frame 0 and forward. Anyway I got my proof of concept script to work and I checked that the new RED file works again in REDCINE.

It will be working by taking an input filename, output filename, start timecode and end timecode.

Just need to make it work with sequences (first 001, then 002 etc.) for both input and output. Then I'll post it somewhere :)

Steven Hilder
02-03-2009, 04:36 AM
The Attached ZIP contains R3DCROP version 1.0 - a free command-line tool for cropping R3D files to specific in- and out-points.

I will repeat a portion of the readme file here:


This Windows-only command-line tool is provided WITHOUT SUPPORT, GUARANTEE OR WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. I have tested it during development to produce R3D files which are readable by REDCINE, but if you choose to implement R3DCROP in your workflow, you must be aware that future changes to the R3D file format will most likely render this tool useless. You are also advised never to delete your original R3D files.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

With that said, if you find any bugs, I'll see what I can do... :wink:

Sincerely,
Steven Hilder

...

JanneJansson
02-03-2009, 04:45 AM
To join files use "cat" command.
http://www.linfo.org/cat.html

In the terminal window type:

cat file1 file2 file3 > file4