Scopes for Post [Archive]

Vinit Borrison

01-05-2009, 05:06 PM

M Most

01-05-2009, 05:17 PM

Hey Guys,

I'm just curious what people are using for a low cost Scope Solution for Scratch. Are you running some sort of software on your Boxx System, or a dedicated box.... Love to hear some setups...

Scopes are not a "low cost" item, not if you want ones that work properly. Most Scratch based facilities use either Omnitek or Tektronix rasterizers, which are fed by either single or dual link HD-SDI.

Michael Cioni

01-05-2009, 06:40 PM

The only way to properly monitor video signals is in-between your kit and the monitor. Many people believe that monitoring inside the kit is almost as bad as not monitoring at all.
When it comes to accuracy, Mike is right, Omnitek and Tektronix are the real choices. We have a couple of the Omnitek's, and they are fantastic. But if you are looking for a steal, the only other system I would list is the Leader 7700. It's a good deal for the price, but it will only serve you if you are grading 422/single-link media. Grading 444 media with a 422 scope can create a lot of problems.

Michael
PlasterCITY Digital Post
www.plastercity.com

Vinit Borrison

01-06-2009, 08:39 AM

Hey Mike, Just wondering what issues you've seen with low budget scopes. I've heard of some people actually grading in 444 but having their scopes setup for 422

Steen Linde

01-06-2009, 09:34 AM

I use Scopebox with a Mac G5 with a Black magic HD singlelink video card. Take the SDI 422 signal from the SDI output of my Cinetal monitor and send it through the BM-card.
Scopebox works fine with SD and HD 422 in 8 and 10 bit. 10 bit RGB is pretty slow.
I know it is not the best sollution but it can make it 95 % of the way for me and not as expensive at all.

Cheers

Ian Vertovec

01-06-2009, 10:24 AM

Working in 444 and monitoring in 422 works great if your deliverable is 422. For example we load R3D's into Scratch, color dailies, lay to HDcam422 all the time.

The key is to always monitor what you're going to deliver. RGB to YUV conversions are not flawless. So if you convert the signal to YUV to send it to a scope, and then turn around and deliver RGB dpx to be filmed out, technically you've monitored something different then you delivered. Whether or not that is acceptable is up to you.

ian vertovec
plastercity colorist

Michael Lindsay

01-06-2009, 10:36 AM

Tektronix rasterizers are easy(ish) and seem bullet proof...

I'd be interested in feedback on Omniteck stuff?

Michael L

Vinit Borrison

01-06-2009, 03:05 PM

Thanks a million Steen, gonna test ScopeBox

gustavotg

03-07-2009, 05:51 PM

Does anyone know what scopes or monitoring solution are using at Cefai Design in Switzerland?
In the photo there are 3 monitors, a JVC SDI monitor an a Dell showing scopes/vectorscope/etc.

http://www.cefaidesign.ch/media/scratch_grading.jpg

Thanks.

Simon Blackledge

03-08-2009, 04:09 AM

gustav looks like scopebox

http://www.scopebox.com/overview.php

stephan orlandic

03-08-2009, 05:40 AM

Tektronix rasterizers are easy(ish) and seem bullet proof...

I'd be interested in feedback on Omniteck stuff?

Michael L

Omnitek XR is at the moment the best and most feature packed system You can buy.
All the leading Hollywood and European post houses are now using it/buying it.
You can check here just a small list of users:
http://www.omnitek.tv/postproduction.php?btnno=2

But, it is also the most expencive.

Disclaimer:
I don't work nor have any connection with Omnitek, just using it.