flash drive 1.8" or 2.5"

[Eddie]

"Just to give everybody a mind-twist, we are now recording 4K REDCODE RAW (same as was used by Peter Jackson in shooting "Crossing the Line") to compact flash extreme 4. An 8GB card holds about 4 1/2 minutes of 4K at 24fps. We also got our 48GB 2.5" flash drive up and running. That is about 30 minutes of recording. The 96GB RED RAM (Flash RAID) records for about an hour. The 320GB RED DRIVE (mini RAID) records for about 3 hours. Just so you know.

And no, it is NOT film... it's RED.

Jim"

quoted from cinematography.com

On the red website the ssd option is stated as 1.8"... has this changed into an 2.5" ssd slot?

that would be a very good option.

[number6]

"The 320GB RED DRIVE (mini RAID) records for about 3 hours.



I'm not clear what a mini-raid is... is it notebook sized 7200 rpm drives, or some kind of hybrid drives? Could it possibly even be like three or four small drives configured together as a RAID 0? Striping 4 small capacity drives should produce some serious speed!

[Brook Willard]

I assume the "flash RAID" he's referring to is a prototype of the RED RAM - a flash-based equivalent of the RED DRIVE with an announced 64GB RAID array from 2x 2.5" 32GB flash drives. Things may have changed.

The RED DRIVE is the "mini-RAID" made of 2x 2.5" 160GB spinning drives... again, unless something has changed. Those are notebook drives in a hardware-based RAID 0, number6.

Both the RED DRIVE and the RED RAM have the same possible recording options at this time... meaning they have the ability to record data fast enough to support REDCODE RAW 4K and all other onboard REDCODE formats.

As for extra recording speed from striping 4 drives... it would be lost at this point. They've said that the bottleneck against higher framerates [the reason for having a higher datarate] is the compression onboard the camera. The compressor can currently only handle compressing so much data... and 4K@30p seems to be the limit right now. Again, unless something has changed.

The 1.8" flash interface you're thinking of is not the same as the RED RAM 2x2.5" flash drive mini-RAID Jim appears to have referred to in his post. The 1.8" flash interface will fit on the side of the camera body [where the CF interface fits, as pictured in the CF thread Jarred posted a few days ago] and take one [or more...?] 1.8" SATA-based flash drives [think PCMCIA-esque card]. That's all down the line, AFAIK. Of course, unless something has changed. Maybe they have a single external 2.5" flash drive in addition to the RED RAM... who knows?

[Greg Voevodsky]

Of course, unless something has changed. Maybe they have a single external 2.5" flash drive in addition to the RED RAM... who knows?

Oh, let's hope and pray... cause it looks like the 2.5" will have greater capacity and less cost quicker - 120 gig coming soon!

[Eddie]

Thats what i was hoping for greg. Within a year or two one could rely solely on ssd, reducing size and additional gear considerable and improving battery life, since the ssd draws a lot less current than the red drive.

[Stuart English]

Two of the 2.5" version of the flash drives drop into the external Digital Magazine and create the RED-RAM product. (If they were 160GB hard disks it creates the RED-DRIVE)

One of the 1.8" versions drop into the RED-FLASH 1.8" SATA side saddle on the camera if you order that option.

So lots of choices...

[Jay A. Kelley]

Stuart, will we be able to increase the size of the RED-RAM product as larger 2.5" flash cards come out?
Jay

[number6]

I assume the "flash RAID" he's referring to is a prototype of the RED RAM - a flash-based equivalent of the RED DRIVE with an announced 64GB RAID array from 2x 2.5" 32GB flash drives. Things may have changed.

The RED DRIVE is the "mini-RAID" made of 2x 2.5" 160GB spinning drives... again, unless something has changed. Those are notebook drives in a hardware-based RAID 0, number6.


As for extra recording speed from striping 4 drives... it would be lost at this point. They've said that the bottleneck against higher framerates [the reason for having a higher datarate] is the compression onboard the camera. The compressor can currently only handle compressing so much data... and 4K@30p seems to be the limit right now. Again, unless something has changed.


Thanks Brook... slowly but surely I am coming to terms with this camera.