Old School Angenieux 25-250 [Archive]

Joe Taylor

01-14-2009, 08:18 AM

I have an opportunity to buy and older Angenieux 25-250 (10 x 25 T2.) This is not the Angenieux 25-250 HR but a much smaller unit. Everything about the lens is tip-top with pristine glass.

Can anybody tell me anything about this lens or how it would behave on a RED ONE?

Chris Bell

01-14-2009, 08:30 AM

Are you sure it's T2? It may be an old standard 16mm lens if it is small. May not even cover 2K. I would test.

Lenny Manfred

01-14-2009, 08:31 AM

not an expert here, but the T2 sounds like you have a 16mm lens in your hands. never heard of a T2 long zoom for 35mm before. especially if it is small, it would defy the laws of physics.

Joe Taylor

01-14-2009, 08:49 AM

It is definitely a 35mm lens. We used the same lens on a several film shoots. Have not mounted to a HD camera like the RED though.

Verbeeck Francis

01-14-2009, 08:57 AM

I have one somme where, i will try to find it when I go to the store.
Any way there is no 10 to 1 zoom angenieux for 35 mm with T 2.
It is not a bad lens but the front lens turns whe, focusing and the image pumps when zooming. It is not the same as the 25-250 Cooke. But it is smaler and I used it many years when traveling around with my old IIC from Arri.
If the price is good it is a usefull piece of kit.

Matthew Duclos

01-14-2009, 09:17 AM

Joe,
I believe the lens you are referring to is has an engraving on the front that says T2.
This is not its speed but more or less a model number.
The speed is actually T3.9

Peter Strietmann

01-14-2009, 09:28 AM

Hi Joe,

I think I have this lens and love it for not so critical focus situations although my lens is T3.9. I shot a rez chart with it and my 12x optimo which I'll attach to this.

Also from a previous post...

I have that same lens (angenieux 25-250) and have made a lens support by using the Cinevate mount, http://www.cinevate.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=62&osCsid=83c6ba33bbf79ccdb8c106ad2f9110a8
You also need to use a rubber gasket to make up for the extra space between the mount and lens which can be found online at McMaster Carr online and is referenced by part # 4061T193, Square Buna-n O-ring, As568a Dash Number 147. It works great for me. I refer to the lens as the leading lady.

Best, Peter.

Stephen Williams

01-14-2009, 12:05 PM

Hi,

I have made negative comments in the past about that lens, that tests sums it up IMHO. Probably OK stopped down to T8.

Stephen

Joe Taylor

01-14-2009, 01:59 PM

Thanks for the Posts.

The lens is 3.9, the T2 I believe means "Type 2."

Peter, you posted an attachment of a lens test. Which one is the Ang. and which is the Optimo? I am not sure if I would trust the softest test. Any lens that soft is bound to have a big problem.

Joe Taylor

01-14-2009, 02:03 PM

Peter,

I am not sure I understand what you need to do with the gasket you are referring to. Can you tell me a little more.

Thanks

Stephen Williams

01-14-2009, 02:22 PM

I am not sure if I would trust the softest test. Any lens that soft is bound to have a big problem.

Hi,

Wide open thats what that old lens will produce, I would let it RIP.

Stephen

Peter Strietmann

01-14-2009, 05:18 PM

Stephen,

Don't give up the ship the 10x angenieux is a good lens. The test I did compares a 12x optimo to the 10x, the 12x costs 30 times more so it is unfair in that sense. Check out some footage I've posted on my site, http://web.me.com/plaidass1/Site/6os_-_7os.html .
The second, third and fourth clips were all shot on the 10x. The second and third clips are shot at a 5.6 8 split and the fourth is wide open at 3.9. I used heavy grading to emulate film from the 60s and 70. I use this lens a fair amount and cut it up against all kinds of other lenses. It is not perfect for everything but it still has beautiful characteristics.

Peter Strietmann

01-14-2009, 05:30 PM

Thanks for the Posts.

The lens is 3.9, the T2 I believe means "Type 2."

Peter, you posted an attachment of a lens test. Which one is the Ang. and which is the Optimo? I am not sure if I would trust the softest test. Any lens that soft is bound to have a big problem.

Joe,

The sharp one is the Angenieux optimo 12x and the other is the Angenieux 25-250mm 10x. I have zoomed in to a portion of the lens chart to give a better sense of how many lines the lenses hold. So while both lenses were set to the same focal length, aperture and distance it is not a fair comparison as the optimo is a full stop faster.

Best, Peter.

isaac williams

01-09-2010, 06:16 PM

Stephen,

Don't give up the ship the 10x angenieux is a good lens. The test I did compares a 12x optimo to the 10x, the 12x costs 30 times more so it is unfair in that sense. Check out some footage I've posted on my site, http://web.me.com/plaidass1/Site/6os_-_7os.html .
The second, third and fourth clips were all shot on the 10x. The second and third clips are shot at a 5.6 8 split and the fourth is wide open at 3.9. I used heavy grading to emulate film from the 60s and 70. I use this lens a fair amount and cut it up against all kinds of other lenses. It is not perfect for everything but it still has beautiful characteristics.
hey i looked at your footage with the angeniex and the are not too bad, im about to shoot a short with this lens on a arri 35bL2 i noticed the green color of the leaves to be a little off though, is that something you can correct in post is it just an inherent flaw of the lens. it every shot i have seen with this lens seems to lack color saturation