View Full Version : slow epic 645
01-23-2009, 06:54 AM
As stated by Jim, high frame rates cost real money.
Kindly I would like to know, if possible, if a 'slow' epic, for example 9k@20fps/6k@30fps would sensibly cut the costs for the brain.
I'm asking because I see a huge difference price (x3) between the scarlet FF35 and the epic FF35 (same resolution, only different frame rate): a scarlet with a 645 sensor would cost $15000?
01-23-2009, 09:16 AM
I highly doubt that that would be feasible. The 645 sensor will have yields that are about 1/4 of the FF35, and the 645 will prerequire a level of data hardware that is already as high as the other epics because it needs to capture about 1.5 Gigapixels per second. You should also conssider that beyond that, you would be spending 15k or more on medium format glass anyway.
01-23-2009, 09:50 AM
As many people realized with the RED One, it's not the cost of the camera body that is the real issue, but all the other gear to support it. $43K for the EPIC 645 looks like a killer price for all that it does, that's cheaper than many broadcast and pro HD camera bodies that barely deliver 1080 at up to 60fps.
Granted, not everyone will need all those features, which makes one wonder... Would there be a market for a "Scarlet 645"? Would that sensor, and necessary electronics to support it, even fit inside the Scarlet housing?
I keep pondering all the various Scarlet and EPIC offerings, trying to decide what my best purchase options would be. Everyones' needs are different, but what for me I think the fixed lens Scarlet is a must-buy. Then the trade-in for the EPIC-X seems like a no-brainer (hehe). But if the EPIC FF35 is less than 6 months behind EPIC-X, I may consider just waiting for it instead. The 645 looks like a better choice if I have to decide between the FF35 and 645 -- it theoretically should bring higher rental demand and it gives me everything the FF35 does, plus the ability to shoot 6x4.5, which is way bigger than 65mm and damn near 15/70 IMAX size. Glass is another issue, but I have a couple medium format lenses that may serve as a base to work from.
...Then there's the 617. I have something big in mind for that camera. I'd like to buy one, but I don't know if I will right off. I'll probably rent a time or two and make sure my plan would work. It looks like it will be a major hitter in the large format photo, digital signage, and FX markets. Then again, a couple decent signage jobs and a few quality panoramic stock shots and that camera body would pretty much pay for itself.
01-23-2009, 11:08 AM
I'm with you Jeff, my purchase plan is almost identical.
01-26-2009, 07:17 AM
Would there be a market for a "Scarlet 645"? Would that sensor, and necessary electronics to support it, even fit inside the Scarlet housing?
IMHO I think that the market for a 'scarlet 645', would be the current digital medium format territory (Phase 1, Sinar/Leaf, Hasselblad).