Will Jackson and Spielberg choose RED?

[Alexander Nikishin]

There's some news about a new trilogy being shot by Spielberg and Jackson titled "Tintin".

Read more about it here..

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=420809

[Chris Gearhart]

The one Jackson directs, perhaps. The one Spielberg directs, perhaps not.

[Jaime Vallés]

Spielberg's been quoted as saying he'll probably be the last filmmaker in the world still clutching on to film while everybody else moves to digital. He says he loves the smell of the actual film reels.

I seriously doubt he'll shoot anything digital anytime soon. And film seems to be working out ok for the guy...

[Tom Lowe]

I asked the same question about his collaboration with Lucas on Indy 4, and most people seemed to think Spielberg would insist on film. But you never know.

[Ken Corben]

The real question is will Cameron be screening a 3D trailer for Avitar(sp) shot with REDONE's at the RED tent for NAB '08?

[jaadgy akanni]

I asked the same question about his collaboration with Lucas on Indy 4, and most people seemed to think Spielberg would insist on film. But you never know.

I'm a song writer, and I've never been able to write a song with a ball point pen, a typewriter or a computer-I can only be creative and feel totally inspired when writing with a pencil. I think Spielberg must feel the same way about film. Spielberg has grown to be dependent on the sight, the smell, the touch, and the presence of film on the set in order for his creative juices to flow 100%. I totally understand that. I don't think he necessarily believes that digital is not up to snuff or anything like that; it's just that at this point and for a long time, film is part of his creative ritual. I totally identify.

[chuck colburn]

I'm a song writer, and I've never been able to write a song with a ball point pen, a typewriter or a computer-I can only be creative and feel totally inspired when writing with a pencil. I think Spielberg must feel the same way about film. Spielberg has grown to be dependent on the sight, the smell, the touch, and the presence of film on the set in order for his creative juices to flow 100%. I totally understand that. I don't think he necessarily believes that digital is not up to snuff or anything like that; it's just that at this point and for a long time, film is part of his creative ritual. I totally identify.

Hey jaadgy,

I can relate to the smell part. The guy from Kodak delivered me a brand new 2,500' roll of 65mm neg. one day and as I pulled the tape, popped the lid and took it out of the black paper bag and put it on my work bench the smell was overwhelming. I thought he was going to cry. lol

Chuck

[J. Bernard Vallon]

Who doesn't love the smell of film? It smells like success...

[Brian D. Goff]

Who doesn't love the smell of film? It smells like success...

Gives your HDs and Flash stickes that "special" smell:biggrin:

[Stephen Webb]

My understanding is the 3 films are entirely CG using performance capture, so neither would be my guess.

[Jaime Vallés]

Who doesn't love the smell of film? It smells like success...
I love the smell of hard drives in the morning!

[Kenn Christenson]

Hopefully, the third director won't be John Landis.

[jaadgy akanni]

I love the smell of hard drives in the morning!

Jaime is that a BrokeBack Mountain type comment? hahaha!

[Yash Keough]

The real question is will Cameron be screening a 3D trailer for Avitar(sp) shot with REDONE's at the RED tent for NAB '08?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Cameron is using a special custom built 3d system by some camera company that basically consists of 2 Sony F900s or F950's. Something like that, my memory is a little hazy but I seem to recall reading that recently.

[Júlio Taubkin]

I'm gessing Tintin will be 3D. I don't know if it will be good or bad...

Tintin absolutely rules, so that could make for a very happy or very angry Taubkin leaving the theater someday...

But hey, if anybody should give Tintin a try, I can't see why not them...

[jaadgy akanni]

Who caught that?

[Steven M. Bailey]

I'm a song writer, and I've never been able to write a song with a ball point pen, a typewriter or a computer-I can only be creative and feel totally inspired when writing with a pencil. I think Spielberg must feel the same way about film. Spielberg has grown to be dependent on the sight, the smell, the touch, and the presence of film on the set in order for his creative juices to flow 100%. I totally understand that. I don't think he necessarily believes that digital is not up to snuff or anything like that; it's just that at this point and for a long time, film is part of his creative ritual. I totally identify.

I find that when I am most inspired to write, there is never anything handy to write on or with. I have written many lyrics with crayons on tissue boxes, because my kids left them in my truck. For some, ritual format is important, and for you, do what ever helps you get your best work out. For me, learning something new always brings out the creative side. Long live red.:biggrin:

[Airlawn]

Are they making the Tintin comics into a movie or are they just using the characters?

[Jaime Vallés]

Jaime is that a BrokeBack Mountain type comment? hahaha!

Yeehaw! :sheep: :)

[Poi Boy]

nice chaps
-A

[Júlio Taubkin]

Are they making the Tintin comics into a movie or are they just using the characters?

They selected 3 comic books and will adapt them for feature lengh animations.

[Priyesh P.]

I'm a song writer, and I've never been able to write a song with a ball point pen, a typewriter or a computer-I can only be creative and feel totally inspired when writing with a pencil. I think Spielberg must feel the same way about film. Spielberg has grown to be dependent on the sight, the smell, the touch, and the presence of film on the set in order for his creative juices to flow 100%. I totally understand that. I don't think he necessarily believes that digital is not up to snuff or anything like that; it's just that at this point and for a long time, film is part of his creative ritual. I totally identify.

That sounds odd. The closest Spielberg gets to film are those rare occasions at the flatbed with michael kahn. Even Kaminski never operates the camera, as far as I know, just like Michael Ballhaus.And Spielberg doesn´t belong to the hands-on group of directors like Cameron, Kubrick, Rodriguez etc. who frequently do editing & camera operating, so I wonder why he cares about it at all. He just tries to coquette with that statement in my opinion.

[David Mullen ASC]

People (who have worked for him) have told me that Spielberg will occasionally operate a shot -- he definitely operates the camera during blocking and rehearsal because he likes staging through the lens.

He also likes the look of film.

And he does spend some time in the editing room with Michael Khan. And film dailies allows for film projection of dailies and previews.

And he managed to shoot "Munich" in September-October and have it cut and released in theaters by December, plus he's well-known for the lightning speed of his shoots, so what's the point of changing? It's not like film is slowing him down! He's got a system of working that works for him.

[Priyesh P.]

People (who have worked for him) have told me that Spielberg will occasionally operate a shot -- he definitely operates the camera during blocking and rehearsal because he likes staging through the lens.

He also likes the look of film.

And he does spend some time in the editing room with Michael Khan. And film dailies allows for film projection of dailies and previews.

And he managed to shoot "Munich" in September-October and have it cut and released in theaters by December, plus he's well-known for the lightning speed of his shoots, so what's the point of changing? It's not like film is slowing him down! He's got a system of working that works for him.

That´s very interesting to know.
And as long as it doesn´t make a substantial financial impact he won´t change either.

[David Mullen ASC]

All that said, there is still a chance that Lucas will force him to shoot Indy 4 digitally. I heard a rumor that Kaminski was testing the Genesis camera for a shoot, but I don't know for what (could have been for a commercial... or just out of curiosity.)

[Jaime Vallés]

All that said, there is still a chance that Lucas will force him to shoot Indy 4 digitally. I heard a rumor that Kaminski was testing the Genesis camera for a shoot, but I don't know for what (could have been for a commercial... or just out of curiosity.)
As long as Indy 4 doesn't have the "smearing" look of Apocalypto, I don't care what it's shot in!

[Kenn Christenson]

As long as Indy 4 doesn't have the "smearing" look of Apocalypto, I don't care what it's shot in!

You're talking about the open shutter effect - kind of equivalent to a 360˚ shutter in film, where the sensor(s) are exposed for the entire 1/24 of a second.

Agreed. Not a fan of the open shutter effect, but sometimes that's the most feasible way of getting the exposure you need without holding up production.

[Robert Sanders]

The real question is will Cameron be screening a 3D trailer for Avitar(sp) shot with REDONE's at the RED tent for NAB '08?

Doubtful. Cameron's eyeballing the F23. Why? Because 3D cinemtography is the probably the one time you want as much DOF as possible. And 2/3 CCDs are best for that. Of course, he could always shoot in "windowed" mode on the RED.

[Joe Carney]

Wasn't Spielberg known for in camera editing?

[Robert Sanders]

It would surprise me if Kaminski agreed to shoot digitally. Every article I've read about him tells about how adverse to digital cinematography he is. He didn't even enjoy the D.I. process and prefers a photo-chemical one.

However, Spielberg once said that Lucas was paying the bills and he'd shoot on whatever format "the boss" asked him to shoot on. So who knows.

The other three Indy films are all 35mm anamorphic. I'd love for them to stick with that format. Just for consistencies sake.

[James Mathers]

More info on the Tintin project from the London Times. The character seems to be very revered internationally, although I've never heard of it before. The project will be a high bred motion capture technique in which shooting digital would offer distint advantages.
From the Times:

Part of the delay seems to be down to the fact that the technology hadn’t previously existed to allow Tintin to be rendered in a satisfactory manner. Hergé hated the live-action films and the animated TV series, all from the 1960s (and, naturellement, French). “We want Tintin’s adventures to have the reality of a live-action film,” Spielberg declares. “Yet Peter and I felt that shooting them in a traditional live-action format would simply not honour the distinctive look of the characters and world that Hergé created.”
James Mathers
www.DigitalCinemaSociety.org

[Gavin Greenwalt]

A week before this was announced I said out loud at work. You know what movie someone needs to make! Tin Tin!

Of course I was hoping I might be the one who makes it.... :)



Agreed. Not a fan of the open shutter effect, but sometimes that's the most feasible way of getting the exposure you need without holding up production.

I read an interview where the DP was explaining the decision in Apocalypto to shoot with a 360 shutter and he said it was purely stylistic. They wanted to achieve that super long exposure tracking shot look of some action still photography in a motion picture setting.