Leica 35mm f/2 vs. Nikon 85mm f/1.8

[Sanjin Jukic]

One more quick and dirty lens test.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Leica35mm_Nikon85mm3.jpg
Leica Summicron-R 35mm f/2 @ f/5.6

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Leica35mm_Nikon85mm4.jpg
Nikon AF/D 85mm f/1.8 @ f/4

Now I have comparison test between Leica Summicron-R 35mm f/2 @ f/5.6

and Nikon AF/D 85mm f/1.8 @ f/4 in low LED light (tungsten).

I general they are great lenses, Leica has better mechanic (all in metal housing) and a bit longer focus throw.

Both are sharp and rendering colors very nice.

Also it was test about CC and look of output capabilities using Sapphire Film Effects.

I like the simulation of a famous film stocks that somehow "kicking off" video look of digital acquisition and adding a bit of "film magic".

Clip is processed in REDAlert (320ASA, 5600K) output in Camera RGB and REDLog (AppleProResHQ).

Imported in FCP and with Sapphire Film Effects plug in processed

with folowing main parameters:

- Neg Film>> Kodak_5218: Kodak Vision2 500T, tungsten light balanced, fine grain.

- Print Film>> Kodak_2383: Kodak VISION Color Print Film, rich blacks.

A bit of saturation added with FCP 3 x color correction tool.

Output in letterbox 720p H264.

Have a look at the footage>>> (http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Leica35mm_Nikon85mm3.mov)

[Sanjin Jukic]

I call this test a CRUCIAL test for RED1 towards wide acceptance in the mainstream film production worldwide.

Why?

It's about to get rid of "videoish" look produced with a digital acquisition of any type.

Film Effect from GenArts Sapphire plug in is MUST HAVE software together with other

apps that include diverse film stock emulations.

Why again?

Just because to show people how would look a movie if it would be printed to film.

Magic film look still rules and will remain very long.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/panalog2linL.jpg
Panalog2lin - this is how it would look using Panavision Genesis output to film print in shake.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/panalog2linN.jpg
Panalog2lin - this is how it would look using Panavision Genesis output to film print in Shake.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/truelight_kodakvision_rec709L.jpg
Truelight- this is how it would look using FilmLight plug in with Kodak Vision Rec709 output in Shake.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/truelight_kodakvision_rec709N.jpg
Truelight- this is how it would look using FilmLight plug in with Kodak Vision Rec709 output in Shake.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Also I’m really happy with my workflow that is almost 100% the same as a workflow for

"Wallander" that swhowd up last week on the another "peofessional" CML forum:


"I know that a lot of people reading this have been there, done it, but there are also a lot of people who need to know :) .

OK, shoot, 2 * Red cameras with Optimo 15-40 & 27-76 zoom and all Superspeeeds,

a 200, 300 or so thrown in for luck, oh and a 16mm Masterprime.

..........................

I’m really happy with the look of this, it’s not 35mm, the highlights and colour give that away,

however, it is possible to compensate for most of that.

Soft highlight clips are where we start, we add selective de-saturation of the colours that tend

to go “video” and finally, although we may not include this as it makes the render times horribly long,

a little highlight glow, only at 90% and above and only a tiny amount but it really works.

Now the real deal J the most important thing that we’re doing to make the pictures look better,

and I really don’t mean like film, just better, is that we’re adding grain. Very soft low level grain

but it’s amazing the change it makes to the pictures.

What it is doing is making the pictures look sharper and losing the plastic skin tones that we

sometimes get with digital pictures.

The level that we are using is invisible at SD and only barely visible at HD, but the effect is staggering!

On faces that were very smooth we can now see the occasional wrinkle, laugh lines appear, it’s really cool :) .

So, would I shoot RED again? Like a shot :) .


Cheers

Geoff Boyle
DP
EU based"

................................

"The grain addition and the selective CC aren't to make it look more like
film, it's simply to make the images look better, as I said at SD you can't
see it and at HD you have to look hard.

Cheers

Geoff Boyle
DP
EU based"

Text in Yellow>>>Copyright © 2009 CML (http://www.cinematography.net/)

[Stephen Williams]

Hi Sanjin,

When you copied Geoff Boyles post you omitted 1 important point
Copyright 2009 CML

Stephen



Also I’m really happy with my workflow that is almost 100% the same as a workflow for

"Wallander" that swhowd up last week on the another "peofessional" CML forum:

"I’m really happy with the look of this, it’s not 35mm, the highlights and colour give that away,

however, it is possible to compensate for most of that.

Soft highlight clips are where we start, we add selective de-saturation of the colours that tend

to go “video” and finally, although we may not include this as it makes the render times horribly long,

a little highlight glow, only at 90% and above and only a tiny amount but it really works.

Now the real deal J the most important thing that we’re doing to make the pictures look better,

and I really don’t mean like film, just better, is that we’re adding grain. Very soft low level grain

but it’s amazing the change it makes to the pictures.

What it is doing is making the pictures look sharper and losing the plastic skin tones that we

sometimes get with digital pictures.

The level that we are using is invisible at SD and only barely visible at HD, but the effect is staggering!

On faces that were very smooth we can now see the occasional wrinkle, laugh lines appear, it’s really cool :) .

So, would I shoot RED again? Like a shot :) .


Cheers

Geoff Boyle
DP
EU based"

................................

"The grain addition and the selective CC aren't to make it look more like
film, it's simply to make the images look better, as I said at SD you can't
see it and at HD you have to look hard.

Cheers

Geoff Boyle
DP
EU based"

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks Stephen to remind me.

Corrected.